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Post by sari on Sept 23, 2017 11:07:57 GMT -5
The Korean and Chinese ppl in my uni say Vladivostok is very beautiful! So maybe if you ignore the climate its a nice city to visit  I've done some "exploration" of Russia on Google Street View and Vladivostok is indeed beautiful! Unfortunately visiting would be quite difficult for me as an American. |
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Post by Lommaren on Sept 23, 2017 12:14:36 GMT -5
Vladivostok has some nice nature around it, it basically looks like Great Lakes woods  I really applaud Google for the addition of so much of Russia on Street View, must've been an inconvenient move in the current hysterical political climate of paranoia. By the way Saritra as far as coastal climates go, I assume this one's near the top of your list hehe? Also on your dream latitude, 47!  |
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Post by boombo on Sept 23, 2017 12:18:55 GMT -5
The Korean and Chinese ppl in my uni say Vladivostok is very beautiful! So maybe if you ignore the climate its a nice city to visit I've done some "exploration" of Russia on Google Street View and Vladivostok is indeed beautiful! Unfortunately visiting would be quite difficult for me as an American. Sure it's a long way from America, but two friends of mine I went to high school with went there on the train all the way from Moscow the summer after we graduated. I can't remember what they said about Vladivostok because this was 13 years ago, but they were impressed with how hospitable the people were the whole way and how the language wasn't as much of a barrier as they expected. |
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Post by The Gior from Ipanema on Sept 23, 2017 12:22:09 GMT -5
Despite what the media says Russian people don't hate all Americans. Maybe we think some American traditions are weird but most Russians are just trying to live their lives and survive in a country that is very difficult to survive in
Would love to go back to Russia one day, just to see all the changes. Now that I'm a lot older I will appreciate this history a lot more
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 20:11:03 GMT -5
My climate is the best at my latitude. The worst will be anywhere inland in Canada or Russia.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 2:54:00 GMT -5
Best: Casablanca
Worst: Baghdad
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Post by Babu on Sept 30, 2017 3:03:44 GMT -5
My climate is the best at my latitude. The worst will be anywhere inland in Canada or Russia. Are you talking about London or Norwhich? |
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Post by Lommaren on Sept 30, 2017 3:21:00 GMT -5
My climate is the best at my latitude. The worst will be anywhere inland in Canada or Russia. Ipswich, Cheltenham and Cambridge are surely better than Norwich? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 4:40:50 GMT -5
My climate is the best at my latitude. The worst will be anywhere inland in Canada or Russia. Are you talking about London or Norwhich? London and the SE. Norwich is quite a lot cooler and wetter than I was expecting, though it has been a very cool, wet and cloudy 2nd half of summer all over the UK this year. |
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Post by Babu on Oct 4, 2017 15:42:41 GMT -5
58° N - the best is mine. The reason- more eastern areas have too claustrophobically long/cold winters (it s n o w e d already some days ago in Bashkortostan, Russia - that is in fact on the latitude of Latvia- Lithuania) the more western areas are in turn weaker in terms of spring/summer warmth. The worst is Inukjuak, Quebeck, - 58° 45'- a real crappy s..t, help me god. I really wonder that such one exists. Is it Tartu? Sweden is warmer in the shoulder seasons, summer and winter compared to anywhere in Estonia, as well as being sunnier... |
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Post by aabc123 on Oct 4, 2017 16:18:38 GMT -5
Is it Tartu? Sweden is warmer in the shoulder seasons, summer and winter compared to anywhere in Estonia, as well as being sunnier... Sweden warmer in shoulder seasons?- I mean long time averages, not those 2002-14 data what is in Swedish wikipedia. If i would load up my 2002-14 averages one would see that + It depends on what do you mean "the best". Sweden might be warmer in March or in October but not in May or summer as Sweden is just more oceanic. Oceanic climates have realatively high daily means- do to their oceanity. Russia is in turn more prone to warm spells in summer than eg estonia like eg 2010 proved. Not Tartu, but closest to me is this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B5ru#Geography_and_climate |
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Post by Babu on Oct 4, 2017 16:53:44 GMT -5
Is it Tartu? Sweden is warmer in the shoulder seasons, summer and winter compared to anywhere in Estonia, as well as being sunnier... Sweden warmer in shoulder seasons?- I mean long time averages, not those 2002-14 data what is in Swedish wikipedia. If i would load up my 2002-14 averages one would see that + It depends on what do you mean "the best". Sweden might be warmer in March or in October but not in May or summer as Sweden is just more oceanic. Oceanic climates have realatively high daily means- do to their oceanity. Russia is in turn more prone to warm spells in summer than eg estonia like eg 2010 proved. Not Tartu, but closest to me is this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B5ru#Geography_and_climateSadly there aren't really any that good inland climates at 58'N specifically in Sweden. Örebro at 59'N for example had warmer May/September than anything at 58'N, and then they get good again at 57'N. Vöru is warmer though than Tartu, and indeed is warmer in May and July than in Sweden for 02-16. Sweden is warmer in September though (as well as all other months) and equally warm in August and June, and is quite a bit sunnier. |
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Post by Dean York (Old) on Oct 4, 2017 18:39:31 GMT -5
Lytton and Kamloops are the best above 50°N imo. They get actual winters with snow, but aren't exactly brutally cold either, and get longish, very warm and sunny summers.
Nowhere in the UK is strong in any department, and as I'm a summer man mainly, the UK is a complete failure at that.
My mother in law's partner lives in Brighton, but works in London. He's from Catalonia, and he was saying that this year(his first in England), is the first year in his life where he has skipped summer! I'm sure he'll get used to it, but still...
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Post by The Gior from Ipanema on Oct 4, 2017 18:54:57 GMT -5
The Korean and Chinese ppl in my uni say Vladivostok is very beautiful! So maybe if you ignore the climate its a nice city to visit I've done some "exploration" of Russia on Google Street View and Vladivostok is indeed beautiful! Unfortunately visiting would be quite difficult for me as an American. For me it would be even worse probably, being an expat. Russia treats its expats like $h1t |
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Post by aabc123 on Oct 5, 2017 13:29:00 GMT -5
Baba, here is a comparison -  You can see Estonian place has higher temperatures. (as regards to Tartu- the place where the station is ca 20 km from the town, countryside. The town as a such is warmer in fact than the surrounding rural ares. It is cleraly visible at least in spring and in winter too.) Sunshine duration- Estonia is certainly not cloudier than southern side of Sweden. (btw, in general- Baltic sea dispels clouds. My place is inland place, if one wants more sunshine hrs he has to go closer to sea and he gets them in westerm Estonia).  |
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Post by Babu on Oct 5, 2017 13:59:02 GMT -5
It is a fair point that the lows are indeed warmer in Vöru. Gothenburg has warmer means in summer and May, but the highs aren't that warm. (You shouldn't compare 2002-2014 to our 2002-2015/16 means though as 2015 had the coldest July in decades and 2014 the warmest). Gothenburg has lower highs though and more rain. Västervik is the strongest 57'N contender though. Not as high means May-August but as warm highs except for July and May. September is warmer though, and it's significantly sunnier than Vöru (1900h vs 1700h).
Btw, do you prefer warm winters like in Gothenburg or cold ones like in Vöru? Because if you prefer the winters in Vöru anyway, and don't mind the sunshine loss, I can completely see why you'd prefer Vöru as it's far more continental.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 4:30:24 GMT -5
It is a fair point that the lows are indeed warmer in Vöru. Gothenburg has warmer means in summer and May, but the highs aren't that warm. (You shouldn't compare 2002-2014 to our 2002-2015/16 means though as 2015 had the coldest July in decades and 2014 the warmest). Gothenburg has lower highs though and more rain. Västervik is the strongest 57'N contender though. Not as high means May-August but as warm highs except for July and May. September is warmer though, and it's significantly sunnier than Vöru (1900h vs 1700h). Btw, do you prefer warm winters like in Gothenburg or cold ones like in Vöru? Because if you prefer the winters in Vöru anyway, and don't mind the sunshine loss, I can completely see why you'd prefer Vöru as it's far more continental. july 2015 was very cold in the north, not in southern sweden. it was below average, though. |
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Post by aabc123 on Oct 7, 2017 14:51:28 GMT -5
Oops, I am new in this forum an noticed your response just now. That is UHI! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_heat_island The thread is about nature, about natural climates of a certain latitude not about human activities. Gothenburg has nearly 600000 inhabitants, the same goes for London, Stockholm, Moscow whatever. If I would have here a city with 600000 inhabitants when I would have an UHi as well. Even Tartu what is near here has with it's only 100000 somewhat warmer ( climate?), at least it is visible in spring and winter well (although I have no idea how much exactly as there is no station in the real town. As I told the official station "Tartu" is in fact a village) + one more thing -West-Swedish climate is overall more oceanic and oceanicity typically has relatively warm daily means because of more stable temperatures overall and lower diurnal (circadian) fluctuation. You can check and have a look at continental climates- their summer daily means and compare them with oceanic ones. Oceanic ones have confusingly high daily means. UHI -is a thing of it's own. I remember well Kronan posted in CD forum as well climate data of Gothenburg's airport and that was (noticeably) cooler than the city as it was in rural area. |
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Post by Babu on Oct 7, 2017 15:17:34 GMT -5
Oops, I am new in this forum an noticed your response just now. That is UHI! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_heat_island The thread is about nature, about natural climates of a certain latitude not about human activities. Gothenburg has nearly 600000 inhabitants, the same goes for London, Stockholm, Moscow whatever. If I would have here a city with 600000 inhabitants when I would have an UHi as well. Even Tartu what is near here has with it's only 100000 somewhat warmer ( climate?), at least it is visible in spring and winter well (although I have no idea how much exactly as there is no station in the real town. As I told the official station "Tartu" is in fact a village) + one more thing -West-Swedish climate is overall more oceanic and oceanicity typically has relatively warm daily means because of more stable temperatures overall and lower diurnal (circadian) fluctuation. You can check and have a look at continental climates- their summer daily means and compare them with oceanic ones. Oceanic ones have confusingly high daily means. UHI -is a thing of it's own. I remember well Kronan posted in CD forum as well climate data of Gothenburg's airport and that was (noticeably) cooler than the city as it was in rural area. There is a bit of an UHI yeah, but it doesn't make the climate worse in my opinion. Either way, what do you mean "confusingly high means"? I thought you cared more about means rather than highs, because the highs are pretty much the same in Sweden as in Vöru. Do you prefer mild or cold winters? Whatever, I can see why certain people would prefer Vöru to anywhere in Sweden. |
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Post by aabc123 on Oct 8, 2017 14:12:08 GMT -5
Sweden- it is a country and a area wise a big country. If to compare Mallila vs Võru, then you see august in the latter is a bit warmer than July in the first. I care both highs and means. Highs are important too as it is important how many 20c, 25c, 30c days in summer someone gets. If one gets more- that is good, if one gets less- that is bad. As for winter- I prefer rather cold ones- but with clear skies and starting and ending in right time. I winterisch conditions occure in early november or middle of march or whenever in wrong time- when it is bad. When in right time- ok. I don't know is there correlation between summer and winter although it is widespread belief that if winter is mild then summer will be cool and crappy. As for winter- winter is winter, it makes not that much sense is it a "warm" or not thus the "warmth" in winter is pretty useless. If I could upgrade or improve my climate (upon condition that the daily mean will remain the same) I would rather even make January's daily mean 5c degrees colder but under the expense of it I would make daily means of months from May to Sept warmer, +1c per each. As for 4-season climates of Europe- I like this one btw, what were Umea's January and February daily means in 1981-2010 or in earlier reference periods? |
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I really applaud Google for the addition of so much of Russia on Street View, must've been an inconvenient move in the current hysterical political climate of paranoia.
The thread is about nature, about natural climates of a certain latitude not about human activities. Gothenburg has nearly 600000 inhabitants, the same goes for London, Stockholm, Moscow whatever. If I would have here a city with 600000 inhabitants when I would have an UHi as well. Even Tartu what is near here has with it's only 100000 somewhat warmer ( climate?), at least it is visible in spring and winter well (although I have no idea how much exactly as there is no station in the real town. As I told the official station "Tartu" is in fact a village)