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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 11:59:59 GMT -5
I don't believe for a second believe you consider that a B- climate.
I rate it a C+, although no snowfall in April makes zero sense. Is precipitation only allowed to fall in the afternoon?
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Post by Lommaren on Jun 20, 2018 14:35:58 GMT -5
Snow is fine, albeit it's too frequent and 21°C summer means are quite fine regardless of diurnals, in my ideal climate there's a 20.5°C summer mean after all (25/16), and there's very little rain and high sunshine in summer, so I fail to see the problem in a B- rating here?
Also, April and October are dry months in general so I fail to see any sort of problem there either. Early April averages 12/-2 and those first four-five days are when that once in five years 1-2 cm can occur. Bottom line is, you're not getting a full cm out of a dry 16/0 month in a normal year, no way. Especially given precipitation with higher sun angles tend to really moderate temperatures.
By the way, I've no issue with snow so long as I don't get buried indoors by it (50 cm in one day which never happens here), I just hate the cold air, but snow is a mitigating factor. Here you also get one month with 24°C, one with 26°C and one with 28°C highs, all with comfortable means. That part of the year salvages B- even though it's close to a C+ Very few Swedes dislike snow. Most of us save the Scanians have grown up with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 14:52:32 GMT -5
You've previously said your dream climates are places like the Azores and this: cdweather.boards.net/thread/427/rate-dream-year-sweden-nz Which are pretty far away from "Strangeweather". There seems to have been a pretty dramatic shift in your preferences recently, especially since you were saying 27C was "unbearable" just a couple of months ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 14:53:35 GMT -5
He's producing all these climates because everybody told him his favorite climates are boring crap. So now he's become "mr interesting climate man"
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Post by Lommaren on Jun 20, 2018 15:01:49 GMT -5
Wait what? I didn't rate this A+ exactly, did I I've also frequently rated climates such as Toronto as "B" back in my City-Data days. I stand by that, no humid continental climate could ever get an A from me, but B is certainly not impossible if it's not a cold desert or say -5°/-13° in winter, that is. Also, Candle's climate has monsoon crap all summer long with 22°C lows (!) (not means), Kiruna-level winter cold, et cetera. If there's one thing I really can't stand, it's excessive rainfall. 27°C is far from unbearable, I really enjoy those temperatures, at least on this latitude with his humidity, that's pretty clear. I went 40 km on the bike in 28°C the other week and it wasn't bad at all with the sea breeze and the low dew point. Average relative humidity in summer in Strangeweather is, as diurnals would indicate lower than 25 % in afternoons and temps drop fast after 4 pm, setting up perfect 25°C conditions for a sunset jog or ride. Having said that, I challenge anyone to find where I referred to 27°C as unbearable. I think people might mix it up with 32/20 Kansas City, which indeed is unbearable.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 15:02:58 GMT -5
B- isn't an A, but still a strong rating. No way you would have give it that before people began calling your preferences boring.
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Post by alex992 on Jun 20, 2018 15:10:29 GMT -5
Denver averages a dry 16/0 and average 17 cm of snow every April. On top of that, March is a good deal warmer in Denver, so early April is warmer: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver#ClimateYou would have to make night time temps like 5 C to make the snowfall less than 1 cm, also would have to make March way warmer on top of that, something like 13/0. Just give it up. This climate is unrealistic. Also Hector and Razza are right that a few months ago you would have rated this climate like D or E because the winters are too cold and summers are too hot. You're obviously trying to make your preferences more "interesting" because people called them boring before.
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Post by Ariete on Jun 20, 2018 15:25:57 GMT -5
How would you guys rate my dream climate? If you don't like it, I'll just change my preferences?!
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Post by alex992 on Jun 20, 2018 16:00:36 GMT -5
Yes, please like -40 C winters and 40 C summers to appease me.
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Post by knot on Jun 20, 2018 16:49:28 GMT -5
Actually, B+ is a MUCH weaker rating than A+, let alone B–; five ranks below, in fact. B+ to A+ marks the disparity between Berwick-upon-Tweed to South Georgia/Grytviken for me, respectively—quite major!
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Post by alex992 on Jun 20, 2018 16:53:14 GMT -5
B- isn't A+, but it's a lot closer to A than E or F. B- is essentially what you give to a climate that you think is quite good, but has a few minor flaws.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 17:01:45 GMT -5
Actually, B+ is a MUCH weaker rating than A+, let alone B–; five ranks below, in fact. B+ to A+ marks the disparity between Berwick-upon-Tweed to South Georgia/Grytviken for me, respectively—quite major!
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Post by knot on Jun 20, 2018 17:04:59 GMT -5
B- isn't A+, but it's a lot closer to A than E or F. B- is essentially what you give to a climate that you think is quite good, but has a few major* flaws. Fixed it for ya, mate. Every last rank counts; even the difference from A– to A, or A to A+ is rather significant to me. The difference between ranks is like the difference between latitude° to me; quite major, to say the least.
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Post by alex992 on Jun 20, 2018 17:07:31 GMT -5
B- isn't A+, but it's a lot closer to A than E or F. B- is essentially what you give to a climate that you think is quite good, but has a few major* flaws. Fixed it for ya, mate. Every last rank counts; even the difference from A– to A, or A to A+ is rather significant to me. The difference between ranks is like the difference between latitude° to me; quite major, to say the least. If it had major flaws, it would probably be a C- or D+, not B-. At least for me. B- is still a well above average grade, especially if you're going on an A-F scale that includes E. D+/C- would be an average grade, which B- is a good 3/4 ranks above. B- is about as average E+/E, which is a grade you'd give to quite a bad climate.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 17:10:03 GMT -5
For me:
C = Average B = Good A = Very good/excellent
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Post by alex992 on Jun 21, 2018 11:26:59 GMT -5
A = Excellent B = Very good C = Decent/slightly above average D = Somewhat bad, but not horrible E = Bad climate F = Awful, abhorrent, preposterous, despicable
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Post by Crunch41 on Jul 4, 2018 11:17:49 GMT -5
Lommaren I agree that it should get some snow in April and October, since most of the precipitation falls as snow in March and November. Right now it looks like it does get rain in the winter months, you could make it even snowier and it wouldn't be too unrealistic. This climate has less than 10:1 ratio of snow to precipitation in winter, which means there's rain mixed in or the snow is very wet all the time. Stehekin has rain mixed with snow in winter. If you wanted it to have zero rain the ratio is probably 15:1. March looks like it gets about 40mm rain and 48cm snow, it could get something like 20mm and 75cm if most of the precipitation came when it's cold. This sort of thing happens in the places like Colorado or Wyoming but doesn't seem to happen in Washington. And I haven't found one that has the high snow ratios in spring and very dry summers either. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgess_Junction,_Wyoming Averages a 20:1 snow ratio in January with -2/-15 averages, and even in March at +1/-12 it averages 20:1 and October at +8/-5 is over 10:1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laramie,_Wyoming January at +1/-12 averages almost 30:1, and April is +11/-4 and averages 0.9:1
Edit: B, the dry summer/wet winter pattern is too extreme.
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