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Post by Lommaren on Jul 10, 2018 16:47:17 GMT -5
With a different subtype of audience of weather forumers here, let's settle this one for good, and I'm sure generate a bit of an uptick in activity as well given how polarizing these climates are! Make sure to vote for weatherboxes and not for "who lives there and who says that", I'm sure almost everybody do but you never know Anyway, as for me: Seattle wins. Summers are warmer and drier, and winters aren't good enough in London anyway, along with a greater chance of snowfall in Seattle due to the cooler temps and greater precipitation. I would also be surprised if Seattle didn't win by a relatively handsome margin given the higher favourability on here for more continental climates in battles.
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Post by nei on Jul 10, 2018 16:57:13 GMT -5
Reminder to subtract 100-150 sunshine hours from Seattle to compare with London. Vancouver has 1937, Victoria 2193; Seattle maybe a bit closer to Vancouver than Victoria. Anyhow, if you think Seattle is too damp and cool, at least it's not Vancouver ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ
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Post by rozenn on Jul 10, 2018 17:09:35 GMT -5
I'm surprised by Seattle's modest mean minimums. I expected them to be around -5/-6ยฐC for individual months and -8/-9ยฐC yearly. Bummer. Knowing that I have a hard time choosing, they're really both equally bad climates, for slightly different reasons.
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Post by ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ on Jul 10, 2018 17:10:40 GMT -5
London for better summers and thunderstorms.
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Post by nei on Jul 10, 2018 17:27:42 GMT -5
I'm surprised by Seattle's modest mean minimums. I expected them to be around -5/-6ยฐC for individual months and -8/-9ยฐC yearly. Bummer. Knowing that I have a hard time choosing, they're really both equally bad climates, for slightly different reasons. Why? Faces the ocean to the west or at least the Puget sound and high mountains to the east. Iโd expect similar to London or Paris; or is London and paris lower? Just realized you onlyexpected 2C colder
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Post by rozenn on Jul 10, 2018 17:45:13 GMT -5
I expected it to be closer to Vancouver's, which I think is in the -10s right by the sea(?). No Fraser valley in Seattle though.
As for Paris and London, it goes like this (Dec/Jan/Feb//Year): Paris-Orly: -5/-7/-5//-8ยฐC London-Heathrow: -4/-4/-4//-6ยฐC
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 17:54:31 GMT -5
London.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 17:57:53 GMT -5
Seattle for the significantly more stable May-Sep period. Although I think overall it's a less interesting climate, and the long drizzle season is a real depressing shitter. No wonder Kurt Cobain blew his own head off.
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Post by knot on Jul 10, 2018 18:37:25 GMT -5
Seattle due to much snowier winters, as London can go many winters without snowfall and can barely make it below freezing, due to its stability and UHI gayshit. Seattle is also much wetter and has far more precipitation days, which gives it the easy win.
London is among the worst British climates; if this battle was Seattle vs Newcastle-upon-Tyne (more northerly), then Newcastle would easily win it due to being much snowier & squallier.
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Post by alex992 on Jul 10, 2018 18:44:13 GMT -5
Both climates are boring crap, but I think I'll take London slightly because the summers are better.
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Post by Cadeau on Jul 10, 2018 22:09:13 GMT -5
Whichever observes less number of 30+ยฐC days. Both cities are one of the best climates on each continent.
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Post by Steelernation on Jul 10, 2018 23:02:58 GMT -5
London for the dryness and better storms.
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Post by jgtheone on Jul 10, 2018 23:19:51 GMT -5
Seattle's rainfall pattern and summer sun win it for me.
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Post by sari on Jul 10, 2018 23:53:08 GMT -5
Seattle for continentiality!
The snow is interesting. The number is low, but averaging snow in five separate months means that at least a little snow is very likely almost every winter, which is likely an uncommon snow pattern.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 6:44:41 GMT -5
London for having much drier winters, less snow and frost, and more thunderstorms and better dew points in summer.
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Post by nei on Jul 11, 2018 7:10:39 GMT -5
Seattle due to much snowier winters, as London can go many winters without snowfall and can barely make it below freezing, due to its stability and UHI gayshit. Seattle is also much wetter and has far more precipitation days, which gives it the easy win. Is Seattle actually much snowier? It averages 6 days of snow falling a year; though as sari said, nearly none most years with an occasional snowy year. There's a graph two posts down: www.city-data.com/forum/weather/2787644-autumn-fall-2017-thread-sept-oct-298.html#post50099499
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 7:20:10 GMT -5
Snow falling doesn't neccesarily translate into a healthy blanket of snow. Neither of these climates can be relied upon for snow, both are too mild to count on it.
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Post by nei on Jul 11, 2018 8:48:03 GMT -5
By numbers Seattle looks obviously better, 400 extra sunshine hours is more important to me than gaining fewer rainy days. I haven't lived in either climate, but Seattle's cloud pattern sound more annoying. London gets more "weather": skies changing from clear to cloudy, going from sunny to drizzly. A bit like here but on average cloudier. Even the cloudy winter days will get blue skies for a couple hours; you rarely get a tedious never see the sun for many days. Seattle seems to get stuck more on very cloudy or clear skies. Winter = many days of endless of stratocrapulus with off and on drizzle with a day of clear skies with few partly cloudy weather in between. Summer proportions reversed with lots of days of clear and a few mostly cloudy days.
British and PNW posters could give more details to tell me if I'm right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 9:01:00 GMT -5
By numbers Seattle looks obviously better, 400 extra sunshine hours is more important to me than gaining fewer rainy days. I haven't lived in either climate, but Seattle's cloud pattern sound more annoying. London gets more "weather": skies changing from clear to cloudy, going from sunny to drizzly. A bit like here but on average cloudier. Even the cloudy winter days will get blue skies for a couple hours; you rarely get a tedious never see the sun for many days. Seattle seems to get stuck more on very cloudy or clear skies. Winter = many days of endless of stratocrapulus with off and on drizzle with a day of clear skies with few partly cloudy weather in between. Summer proportions reversed with lots of days of clear and a few mostly cloudy days. British and PNW posters could give more details to tell me if I'm right. Yeah, London's generally more changeable year round. Seattle's conditions look more stable and predictable, albeit more prone to temperature swings.
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Post by Palider on Jul 11, 2018 18:28:10 GMT -5
Seattle has both better winters and better summers.
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