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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 18:16:17 GMT -5
What are avg July highs and lows currently standing at across the UK? 28.5c/16.1c at Heathrow. |
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Post by nei on Jul 23, 2018 20:21:32 GMT -5
More endless heat
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Post by Dean York (Old) on Jul 24, 2018 2:46:01 GMT -5
What are avg July highs and lows currently standing at across the UK? 25.5C average high here so far, so not record breaking here as of yet, but certainly one of our warmest on record. |
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Post by Ariete on Jul 24, 2018 2:52:17 GMT -5
Kouvola saw 81 mm fall in 1.5 hours on Saturday due to a violent thunderstorm. Those precipitation amounts are extremely rare in Finland.
Thunder and rain will arrive in Turku as well, but they are just convective showers. Lowest high on the 10-day forecast is 26C.
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Post by Babu on Jul 24, 2018 9:02:11 GMT -5
^That's insane!
Storön got 96.7mm of rain on the 21st! That's a highly maritime peninsula in the northernmost Bothnia gulf at nearly 66°N. This is a place that averages 500mm annually and 50mm in July!!!
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Post by nei on Jul 24, 2018 12:58:48 GMT -5
Kouvola saw 81 mm fall in 1.5 hours on Saturday due to a violent thunderstorm. Those precipitation amounts are extremely rare in Finland. Thunder and rain will arrive in Turku as well, but they are just convective showers. Lowest high on the 10-day forecast is 26C. I remember Berlin got an intense thunderstorm at the end of its heat wave in 2015. But obviously northern Finland is far less thunderstorm prone. |
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Post by nei on Jul 24, 2018 13:00:13 GMT -5
2007, 2011 and 2012 were cooler than average with frontal rain. Summer rainfall is more like Cfa than Cwa here. Usually pop-up showers or storms that don't last very long. Bands of rain sweeping across the country are more of an October-February thing. Interesting. Gets me thinking about whether individual Cfb climates belong in the Cfa group, or in the Cwa group, if the 22C warm season requirement didn't exist. Would you say London is more Cfa, or Cwa, over the whole year? Cwa is a climate with rainless winters and a strong summer monsoon season, that'd be a very poor match. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 13:01:49 GMT -5
2007, 2011 and 2012 were cooler than average with frontal rain. Summer rainfall is more like Cfa than Cwa here. Usually pop-up showers or storms that don't last very long. Bands of rain sweeping across the country are more of an October-February thing. Interesting. Gets me thinking about whether individual Cfb climates belong in the Cfa group, or in the Cwa group, if the 22C warm season requirement didn't exist. Would you say London is more Cfa, or Cwa, over the whole year? London would definitely be in the Cfa group (though it has a drying trend in summer which you don't see in Cfa/Cwa climates). In the past 30 years, London has been in the Cfa group once. It will never have a Cwa year. There have been an equal number of Cfb and Csb years (this year will be Csa). Tom on CD said the summer sky examples here looked very similar to those of Philly. Partly cloudy skies of cumulus or congestus. |
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Post by aabc123 on Jul 24, 2018 13:11:36 GMT -5
It is good that eg northernmost Scandinavia recorded 33c, that shows that the global warming is not a myth but a reality and who else than inhabitants of northern latitudes have a reason to be glad.
What I can notice is that heat seems to come from western and northern direction in this time - southern Norway, west-Finland, eastern Sweden, northern parts of these three countries.
It is visible on the country wise too, eg western, central and northern Estonia has had more above 30c days than SE Estonia, eg Jõgeva has had 5 such days in July. In the meantime if I look at more southern places the places such as eg Kaunas of Lithuania, Vilnius and Minsk have got no such days so far (although the last two have had 1 day in may). (And if you wish, even Ukraine's Kiev has got no above 30c days so far in this July)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 13:20:35 GMT -5
Cwa is a climate with rainless winters and a strong summer monsoon season, that'd be a very poor match. London would definitely be in the Cfa group (though it has a drying trend in summer which you don't see in Cfa/Cwa climates). In the past 30 years, London has been in the Cfa group once. It will never have a Cwa year. There have been an equal number of Cfb and Csb years (this year will be Csa). Tom on CD said the summer sky examples here looked very similar to those of Philly. Partly cloudy skies of cumulus or congestus. Wouldn't it be closer to Csa if it has many years that are Csb? What about my climate - a much stronger drying trend than London, but frequent cyclone deluges. It would be about half way between a Cfa and Csa climate. Most years are either Cfb or Csb. Cfa and Csa have occurred once each in the past 30 years. |
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Post by Hiromant on Jul 24, 2018 13:29:55 GMT -5
It is good that eg northernmost Scandinavia recorded 33c, that shows that the global warming is not a myth but a reality and who else than inhabitants of northern latitudes have a reason to be glad. You are confusing weather and climate. "It's warm right here right now, therefore the Earth must be warming due humans' CO2 emissions like the TV tells us." There's currently more ice on the north pole than there has been for the past twelve years. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 13:35:51 GMT -5
all nordic locations that have set new all-time heat records this summer.
Trondheim Airport (Norway) max. 32.4
Snasa (Norway) max. 31.6
Mo I Rana (Norway) max. 32.6
Namsskogan (Norway) max. 32.6
Sihcajavri (Norway) max. 29.2
Alta (Norway) max. 33
Bardufoss (Norway) max. 33.5
Evenes (Norway) max. 32.2
Sandnessjoen (Norway) max. 30.2
Leknes (Norway) max. 29.9
Svolvaer (Norway) max. 29.7
Stokmarknes (Norway) max. 31.6
Bodo (Norway) max. 30.4
Berlevag (Norway) max. 32.7
Mehamn (Norway) max. 31.2
Vadso (Norway) max. 31
Fruholmen Fyr (Norway) max. 28.6
Vardo (Norway) max. 28
Kittila Pokka (Finland) max. 31.8
Rovaniemi (Finland) max. 32.2
Sondakya (Finland) max. 32.1
Kilpisjarvi (Finland) max. 28.3
Salla (Finland) max. 31.5
Kokemaki (Finland) max. 32.9
Muonio (Finland) max. 30.8
Savukoski (Finland) max. 32.3
Inari (Finland) max. 32.6
Kevo (Finland) max. 33.4
Vaasa (Finland) max. 33.7
Mariehamn (Finland) max. 31.5
Kvikkjokk (Sweden) max. 32.5
Naimakka (Sweden) max. 29.5
Katterjak (Sweden) max. 29.5
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Post by Babu on Jul 24, 2018 13:39:02 GMT -5
Huh, not a lot of records for Sweden compared to Finland and Norway. Also, that's cool that I came to Svolvær the same day they set their all-time record
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Post by Ariete on Jul 24, 2018 15:31:09 GMT -5
I remember Berlin got an intense thunderstorm at the end of its heat wave in 2015. But obviously northern Finland is far less thunderstorm prone.
The place is in SE Finland, and southern Finland is roughly as t-storm prone as northern Germany.
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Post by nei on Jul 24, 2018 15:41:44 GMT -5
I remember Berlin got an intense thunderstorm at the end of its heat wave in 2015. But obviously northern Finland is far less thunderstorm prone. The place is in SE Finland, and southern Finland is roughly as t-storm prone as northern Germany.
whoops, mixed it with Storön mentioned by Babu. It got more rain but maybe not as high of a rate? |
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Post by Nidaros on Jul 24, 2018 15:45:16 GMT -5
all nordic locations that have set new all-time heat records this summer. Trondheim Airport (Norway) max. 32.4 Snasa (Norway) max. 31.6 Mo I Rana (Norway) max. 32.6 Namsskogan (Norway) max. 32.6 Sihcajavri (Norway) max. 29.2 Alta (Norway) max. 33 Bardufoss (Norway) max. 33.5 Evenes (Norway) max. 32.2 Sandnessjoen (Norway) max. 30.2 Leknes (Norway) max. 29.9 Svolvaer (Norway) max. 29.7 Stokmarknes (Norway) max. 31.6 Bodo (Norway) max. 30.4 Berlevag (Norway) max. 32.7 Mehamn (Norway) max. 31.2 Vadso (Norway) max. 31 Fruholmen Fyr (Norway) max. 28.6 Vardo (Norway) max. 28 Kittila Pokka (Finland) max. 31.8 Rovaniemi (Finland) max. 32.2 Sondakya (Finland) max. 32.1 Kilpisjarvi (Finland) max. 28.3 Salla (Finland) max. 31.5 Kokemaki (Finland) max. 32.9 Muonio (Finland) max. 30.8 Savukoski (Finland) max. 32.3 Inari (Finland) max. 32.6 Kevo (Finland) max. 33.4 Vaasa (Finland) max. 33.7 Mariehamn (Finland) max. 31.5 Kvikkjokk (Sweden) max. 32.5 Naimakka (Sweden) max. 29.5 Katterjak (Sweden) max. 29.5 Of the Norwegian records, I am most impressed by those at the very edge of the Barents Sea, like Berlevåg 32.7C.
Also, Bardufoss in Troms has recordings since 1940 and improved the record by almost 2C.
Trondheim Airport Værnes 32.4C is less impressive, only 0.1C improvement. Furthermore, an earlier station there recorded 34.5C in 1945, the year before the weather station at Trondheim Airport started recording.
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Post by Nidaros on Jul 24, 2018 15:52:17 GMT -5
Huh, not a lot of records for Sweden compared to Finland and Norway. Also, that's cool that I came to Svolvær the same day they set their all-time record Good timing!! Might mention that Skrova island not far off Svolvær, in the municipality, recorded 30.4C back in 1972. This is the only recording of 30C+ in Lofoten. However, the Vesterålen islands, just north of Lofoten, got a recording of 31.6C at Stokmarknes.
It's also a bit strange that most of the new all-time highsin Norway was in Northern Norway, while it is the south which has been really warm a long time (also compared to normal).
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Post by Babu on Jul 24, 2018 15:56:50 GMT -5
Huh, not a lot of records for Sweden compared to Finland and Norway. Also, that's cool that I came to Svolvær the same day they set their all-time record Good timing!! Might mention that Skrova island not far off Svolvær, in the municipality, recorded 30.4C back in 1972. This is the only recording of 30C+ in Lofoten. However, the Vesterålen islands, just north of Lofoten, got a recording of 31.6C at Stokmarknes.
It's also a bit strange that most new all-time highs was in Northern Norway, while it is the south which has been really warm a long time (also compared to normal).
Yeah. Arvika in the west with an average high of 29.1'C so far hasn't had a single 90f day whereas Uppsala in the east with 28.2 'C average high has had 6 of those (5 in a row!). |
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Post by Babu on Jul 24, 2018 16:29:09 GMT -5
24.4/15.0 for Holmön
25.3/12.0 for Umeå
28.2/14.2 for Uppsala
27.2/11.4 for Uppsala Airport
29.1/9.5 for Arvika
27.8/16.5 for Stockholm
26.8/13.9 for Stockholm airport (Bromma)
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Post by nei on Jul 24, 2018 18:02:23 GMT -5
Good timing!! Might mention that Skrova island not far off Svolvær, in the municipality, recorded 30.4C back in 1972. This is the only recording of 30C+ in Lofoten. However, the Vesterålen islands, just north of Lofoten, got a recording of 31.6C at Stokmarknes.
It's also a bit strange that most new all-time highs was in Northern Norway, while it is the south which has been really warm a long time (also compared to normal).
Yeah. Arvika in the west with an average high of 29.1'C so far hasn't had a single 90f day whereas Uppsala in the east with 28.2 'C average high has had 6 of those (5 in a row!). huh, that's really consistent; thought northern European heat waves tend to be variable. Usually I'd expect places with high monthly variability to get large daily variablity; instead the summers seem rather stuck. |
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