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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 6:52:00 GMT -5
Heathrow isn't UHI. The UHI is more like 12-13c.
Kew Gardens, a natural frost hollow, has an annual mean of 11.1c.
Saying UHI doesn't count is like saying artificial frost hollows (like Rickmansworth) don't count.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 7:06:00 GMT -5
Cold for the latitude is far worse. Average mean temp at 50N is about 4c, while in London it is 11-12c. If London was average for the latitude it would be unliveable. If it was below average for the latitude I doubt there would be more than a small village there. Yeah, just as unlivable as Helsinki, Tallinn, Oslo or Stockholm. Oh you warmies... Oslo is warm for the latitude, with a mean of 7c. It would be warm for the latitude even if it was at 50N. |
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Post by Donar on Jan 21, 2019 7:35:31 GMT -5
Cold for the latitude is worse. Warm to hot summers with long days and and a rather low sunangle are the best. Kamyshin, Russia has a splendid summer example: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamyshin#ClimateLonger days in winter would be nice but the pay-off in summer with a high, burning sun and shorter days isn't worth it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 10:53:11 GMT -5
colder. i'd rather live in linköping than in churchill for example. churchill is a fucking joke for the latitude.
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Post by tij on Jan 21, 2019 15:21:29 GMT -5
colder. i'd rather live in linköping than in churchill for example. churchill is a fucking joke for the latitude. Glancing at your dream climate, you wouldn't prefer Southern China at that latitude to the Persian gulf and the Sahara, as it gets regular snow during the winter? |
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Post by srfoskey on Jan 22, 2019 10:43:50 GMT -5
I prefer climates that are cold for their latitude, because cold sunny days in winter can feel quite nice at say 35°N. It will often feel 10-20°F warmer in the sunlight. Climates like England that are warm for their latitude are annoying because they get so little snow in winter and it's so dark then.
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Post by Ethereal on Apr 16, 2022 23:36:38 GMT -5
Ugh! Both have their own shittiness!
Cold for latitude is just pathetic, like it can do so much better. Warm for latitude maybe is needed (like for London, which is not bad for its latitude), but some places can be oddly too hot for their latitude such as those in West Asia, which really rolls my eyes lol
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Apr 17, 2022 16:09:51 GMT -5
Climates that are warm for the latitude are nearly always superior. The best climates in the world (such as Central Italy, the Adriatic Coast, and Western Turkey) are located at the same latitude as me on Long Island (41N), but LI isn't even cold for its latitude. Warm Europe is just blessed climatically, while cold Asia is cursed. Thus, climates that are warm for their latitude generally have Mediterranean precipitation patterns  |
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Post by firebird1988 on Apr 17, 2022 21:06:12 GMT -5
Climates that are warm for the latitude are nearly always superior. The best climates in the world (such as Central Italy, the Adriatic Coast, and Western Turkey) are located at the same latitude as me on Long Island (41N), but LI isn't even cold for its latitude. Warm Europe is just blessed climatically, while cold Asia is cursed. Thus, climates that are warm for their latitude generally have Mediterranean precipitation patterns  That has to do with being on opposite sides of the continent, just like Redding, CA is warmer than NYC, while both are around 41°N |
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Post by CRISPR on Jan 28, 2024 22:15:00 GMT -5
Cold for latitude is worse IMO, as my ideal climate is at around 33-34º from the equator. Above this latitude, I typically favour climates warm for their latitude, especially if a little inland. Classic example: compare Vladivostok, Russia (E+) and Genoa, Italy (C+), both 43-44ºN of the equator, and have annual means over 10ºC apart (5.1 vs 16.6). Both places are still closer to the equator than to the poles
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Post by tommyFL on Jan 28, 2024 22:26:33 GMT -5
Gonna say climates that are warm for their latitudes are worse in general, as this almost always achieved by extreme oceanic moderation, a la western Europe and Pacific Northwest/SE Alaska. This means a lack of sun, lots of light rain days, and uninteresting temps.
To the contrary, climates that are cold for their latitude are usually due to lack of maritime moderation, which is always more interesting.
Not saying cold climates are better than warm ones, but the factors that make a climate cold or warm should be considered.
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