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Post by tij on Jan 23, 2019 22:12:19 GMT -5
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 23, 2019 22:17:12 GMT -5
Vitebsk
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 22:48:26 GMT -5
I'd like to know Sonamarg's snow totals. High-altitude places with cold winters can easily get atrocious amounts of snow. Vitebsk wins if I can't find Sonamarg's snow totals. Sonamarg seems to get 2x as much winter precipiation as Vitebsk, which would be way too much snow. However, Sonamarg is better without considering snowfall due to the warmer annual mean and annual average high.
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Post by tij on Jan 23, 2019 23:08:46 GMT -5
I'd like to know Sonamarg's snow totals. High-altitude places with cold winters can easily get atrocious amounts of snow. Vitebsk wins if I can't find Sonamarg's snow totals. Sonamarg seems to get 2x as much winter precipiation as Vitebsk, which would be way too much snow. However, Sonamarg is better without considering snowfall due to the warmer annual mean and annual average high. It's actually a hill station where I think some people can ski there! Perhaps I should have tried to compare it to some alpine ski resort in Italy rather than merely looking at the temperature profile and glancing at lowland areas in Belarus and Russia! Perhaps these climates are actually less comparable then I thought they would be... I was more interested in comparing the milder autumn of Kashmir vs the quicker spring warmup of eastern Europe and the wet spring dry autumn NW Indian precip pattern vs the summer dominant E European precip pattern! What do you think instead about comparing it instead to something like Cortina d'Ampezzo or other alpine towns in the alps? |
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Post by ππΏMΓΆrΓΆnππΏ on Jan 23, 2019 23:30:21 GMT -5
Sonamarg for colder and snowier winters. Interesting precip pattern too.  |
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 23, 2019 23:38:19 GMT -5
Vitebsk for being drier and warmer in winter.
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Post by knot on Jan 23, 2019 23:50:38 GMT -5
Sonamarg, fucken!
Much snowier and funner winters, alongside MUCH better latitude; 34Β° N>>>>>55Β° N.
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Post by Babu on Jan 24, 2019 5:04:24 GMT -5
There's a good chance Sonamarg is much sunnier. If it has more than 2000h sunshine then I'd pick it over Vitebsk. Apart from that Vitebsk is drier and has nicer temperatures except in summer.
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Post by tij on Jan 24, 2019 9:43:08 GMT -5
BabuAre there any better matches in the nordics for Sonamarg- with stronger maritime influence and seasonal lag? It has too much of a seasonal lag to immediately b4 comparable to Belarus...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 10:48:38 GMT -5
I kind of forgot to consider sunshine. I would estimate Sonamarg has 2000 hrs. and Vitebsk has 1750 hrs. based on nearby cities. That might be enough to compensate for the snow in Sonamarg.
Also, should we consider the altitude of Sonamarg? The oxygen concentration at 2800m elevation is less than the oxygen concentration on a plane in economy class. In this case, I definitely choose Vitebsk.
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Post by Babu on Jan 24, 2019 11:20:26 GMT -5
I kind of forgot to consider sunshine. I would estimate Sonamarg has 2000 hrs. and Vitebsk has 1750 hrs. based on nearby cities. That might be enough to compensate for the snow in Sonamarg. Also, should we consider the altitude of Sonamarg? The oxygen concentration at 2800m elevation is less than the oxygen concentration on a plane in economy class. In this case, I definitely choose Vitebsk. Oxygen and UV tend to be kept out of the discussion, although UV is definitely optional. You can do split gradings with and without UV (and sun strength in general) in consideration. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 11:44:49 GMT -5
I kind of forgot to consider sunshine. I would estimate Sonamarg has 2000 hrs. and Vitebsk has 1750 hrs. based on nearby cities. That might be enough to compensate for the snow in Sonamarg. Also, should we consider the altitude of Sonamarg? The oxygen concentration at 2800m elevation is less than the oxygen concentration on a plane in economy class. In this case, I definitely choose Vitebsk. Oxygen and UV tend to be kept out of the discussion, although UV is definitely optional. You can do split gradings with and without UV (and sun strength in general) in consideration. Why is oxygen supposed to not be considered? Atmospheric pressure is an element of the climate and is affected by geography and natural factors. UV should definitely be considered. A cloudy subtropical/tropical climate doesn't feel as cloudy as an equally cloudy temperate oceanic climate, so it will change grading in many places. In my opinion, what shouldn't be considered is pollution, the presence or lack of heat or A/C, and other non-climatic factors that are primarily caused by human development. I'll give it a tie if I don't consider oxygen but IMO it is necessary for oxygen to be considered. |
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Post by Babu on Jan 24, 2019 12:17:13 GMT -5
Oxygen and UV tend to be kept out of the discussion, although UV is definitely optional. You can do split gradings with and without UV (and sun strength in general) in consideration. Why is oxygen supposed to not be considered? Atmospheric pressure is an element of the climate and is affected by geography and natural factors. UV should definitely be considered. A cloudy subtropical/tropical climate doesn't feel as cloudy as an equally cloudy temperate oceanic climate, so it will change grading in many places. In my opinion, what shouldn't be considered is pollution, the presence or lack of heat or A/C, and other non-climatic factors that are primarily caused by human development. I'll give it a tie if I don't consider oxygen but IMO it is necessary for oxygen to be considered. I think there's a point in only rating the weatherbox, and if you want to bring in other factors not visible in the weatherbox, feel free to do so, but preferrably you'll mention what those external factors are, and also preferably give a seperate rating for just the weatherbox too. |
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Post by alex992 on Jan 24, 2019 16:35:24 GMT -5
Sonamarg due to being slightly more continental, snowfall totals must be ridiculous with 95 mm of precipitation in January and a -9 C mean.
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