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Post by deneb78 on Jul 6, 2020 17:43:46 GMT -5
I realize that a lot of you like less extreme winters than Labrador City. So I found a place that has snowy but not too cold winters that most cold lovers would find pleasant. How do you rate it? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Mayen#Climate |
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Post by knot on Jul 6, 2020 17:46:36 GMT -5
E+; extremely cold year-round, and winters far too dry. The high variation about the winter maxima also indicate a presence of warm fronts.  |
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Post by Steelernation on Jul 6, 2020 17:47:21 GMT -5
F-. Cold and wet year round
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Post by AJ1013 on Jul 6, 2020 18:39:47 GMT -5
F-. Nobody will like this climate.
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Post by deneb78 on Jul 6, 2020 18:45:24 GMT -5
F-. Nobody will like this climate. Winters aren't too cold but they are quite snowy. For people who like snow, certainly that has to count for something? |
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Post by tij on Jul 6, 2020 19:00:44 GMT -5
F-. Nobody will like this climate. Winters aren't too cold but they are quite snowy. For people who like snow, certainly that has to count for something? Most of the "cold"-lovers on here want a substantiative summer (as in ~25c highs) as well, which Jan Mayen just doesn't really offer. And cold-lovers only constitute a fraction of the forum, many on here prefer semicontinental places or subtropical/med climates to places that are constitently cool/cold. |
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Post by deneb78 on Jul 6, 2020 19:16:33 GMT -5
Winters aren't too cold but they are quite snowy. For people who like snow, certainly that has to count for something? Most of the "cold"-lovers on here want a substantiative summer (as in ~25c highs) as well, which Jan Mayen just doesn't really offer. And cold-lovers only constitute a fraction of the forum, many on here prefer semicontinental places or subtropical/med climates to places that are constitently cool/cold. Good to know... but then not many said which climate they liked in the southern hemisphere and a few complained that there aren't real winters. So I gave them a place with real winters but still didn't like it.... I personally only like tropical and subtropical climates.... Köppen D and E climates are like kryptonite to me. |
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Post by AJ1013 on Jul 6, 2020 19:23:39 GMT -5
Most of the "cold"-lovers on here want a substantiative summer (as in ~25c highs) as well, which Jan Mayen just doesn't really offer. And cold-lovers only constitute a fraction of the forum, many on here prefer semicontinental places or subtropical/med climates to places that are constitently cool/cold. Good to know... but then not many said which climate they liked in the southern hemisphere and a few complained that there aren't real winters. So I gave them a place with real winters but still didn't like it.... I personally only like tropical and subtropical climates.... Köppen D and E climates are like kryptonite to me. There’s a gigantic difference between Koppen D climates and Koppen E climates. Jan Mayen’s winters are too cold for me but if they weren’t pitch black 24/7 they would be ok if paired with 80F summers. There is literally nobody who wants 40 degree drizzly summers. |
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Post by deneb78 on Jul 6, 2020 19:28:17 GMT -5
Good to know... but then not many said which climate they liked in the southern hemisphere and a few complained that there aren't real winters. So I gave them a place with real winters but still didn't like it.... I personally only like tropical and subtropical climates.... Köppen D and E climates are like kryptonite to me. There’s a gigantic difference between Koppen D climates and Koppen E climates. Jan Mayen’s winters are too cold for me but if they weren’t pitch black 24/7 they would be ok if paired with 80F summers. There is literally nobody who wants 40 degree drizzly summers. Perhaps people who hate warmth of any kind want 40 degree drizzly summers? I don't know. Köppen D & E climates have one important thing in common. Ice and snow are dominant for at least a part of the year. That's why I can't stand them. |
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Post by AJ1013 on Jul 6, 2020 19:34:15 GMT -5
There’s a gigantic difference between Koppen D climates and Koppen E climates. Jan Mayen’s winters are too cold for me but if they weren’t pitch black 24/7 they would be ok if paired with 80F summers. There is literally nobody who wants 40 degree drizzly summers. Perhaps people who hate warmth of any kind want 40 degree drizzly summers? I don't know. Köppen D & E climates have one important thing in common. Ice and snow are dominant for at least a part of the year. That's why I can't stand them. That’s like saying Koppen A climates are the same as D climates. Both have warm summers. |
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Post by tij on Jul 6, 2020 19:49:35 GMT -5
There’s a gigantic difference between Koppen D climates and Koppen E climates. Jan Mayen’s winters are too cold for me but if they weren’t pitch black 24/7 they would be ok if paired with 80F summers. There is literally nobody who wants 40 degree drizzly summers. Perhaps people who hate warmth of any kind want 40 degree drizzly summers? I don't know. Köppen D & E climates have one important thing in common. Ice and snow are dominant for at least a part of the year. That's why I can't stand them. E climates can exist with no months <0c if all months are <10c, so that rain is the predominant precipitation form even during the winter, as in: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macquarie_Island#Climate, while D climates require at least one month to average <0c (or -3c). D climates. especially in the southern tiers of the zone usually have normal temperate vegetation, while all E climates lack trees. For someone whose ideal climate is say, Cleveland, they are expecting cold winters with snow, and also warm-to-hot summers, so somewhere like Jan Mayen is simply unappealing, and a subtropical climate with milder winters may very well better suit their personal preferences. Many people on here prioritize summer warmth over avoiding cold winters; so for even some of the other subtropical-to-tropical climate lovers on here, whose ideal could be say, Buenos Aires, may very well prefer Beijing over somewhere like Bergen (or for some, even somewhere like San Francisco), due to the summer heat, despite the colder winters. |
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Post by deneb78 on Jul 6, 2020 20:29:11 GMT -5
That’s like saying Koppen A climates are the same as D climates. Both have warm summers. They both have warm summers but the difference is water doesn't freeze for part of the year in A climates but it will in D climates. I always want water to stay in liquid form. |
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Post by deneb78 on Jul 6, 2020 20:30:47 GMT -5
Perhaps people who hate warmth of any kind want 40 degree drizzly summers? I don't know. Köppen D & E climates have one important thing in common. Ice and snow are dominant for at least a part of the year. That's why I can't stand them. E climates can exist with no months <0c if all months are <10c, so that rain is the predominant precipitation form even during the winter, as in: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macquarie_Island#Climate, while D climates require at least one month to average <0c (or -3c). D climates. especially in the southern tiers of the zone usually have normal temperate vegetation, while all E climates lack trees. For someone whose ideal climate is say, Cleveland, they are expecting cold winters with snow, and also warm-to-hot summers, so somewhere like Jan Mayen is simply unappealing, and a subtropical climate with milder winters may very well better suit their personal preferences. Many people on here prioritize summer warmth over avoiding cold winters; so for even some of the other subtropical-to-tropical climate lovers on here, whose ideal could be say, Barcelona, may very well prefer Beijing over somewhere like Bergen (or for some, even somewhere like San Francisco), due to the summer heat, despite the colder winters. Point taken about the Southern Hemisphere E climates. It totally slipped my mind. I would still take somewhere like Macquarie Island over Yakutsk though even if that may not be a popular choice. I guess people only really mostly like Dfa/Dfb climates on this forum. |
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Post by deneb78 on Jul 6, 2020 20:50:00 GMT -5
In a nutshell, any climate where this can happen every year is horrible to me. If the odds are low to non existent then I will most likely like the climate at least somewhat.
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Post by AJ1013 on Jul 6, 2020 20:54:37 GMT -5
deneb78 The most popular climate types on here are probably Af, Csa, Cfa, Dfa, and Dfb
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Post by chesternz on Jul 6, 2020 23:28:24 GMT -5
E climates can exist with no months <0c if all months are <10c, so that rain is the predominant precipitation form even during the winter, as in: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macquarie_Island#Climate, while D climates require at least one month to average <0c (or -3c). D climates. especially in the southern tiers of the zone usually have normal temperate vegetation, while all E climates lack trees. For someone whose ideal climate is say, Cleveland, they are expecting cold winters with snow, and also warm-to-hot summers, so somewhere like Jan Mayen is simply unappealing, and a subtropical climate with milder winters may very well better suit their personal preferences. Many people on here prioritize summer warmth over avoiding cold winters; so for even some of the other subtropical-to-tropical climate lovers on here, whose ideal could be say, Bienos Aires, may very well prefer Beijing over somewhere like Bergen (or for some, even somewhere like San Francisco), due to the summer heat, despite the colder winters. I reckon Macquarie is even worse than Jan Mayen despite being warmer. I'd rather have -5 C with snow than 3 C with rain and howling winds That said, Jan Mayen is an F for me - really the stuff of nightmares. |
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Post by Speagles84 on Jul 7, 2020 6:56:32 GMT -5
D- those summers Winters are very nice though for the latitude, not absurdly cold. But lack of any type of warm is a huge deterrent. |
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Post by Iwantsnow on Jul 15, 2020 9:39:51 GMT -5
D-. Winter temperatures and snowfall are good, but it's winter all year. I like cold places, but not places without a summer. Jan Mayen is also extremely cloudy.
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Post by Ariete on Jul 15, 2020 10:52:31 GMT -5
F- unlivable, which the island also happens to be.
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Post by Ariete on Jul 16, 2020 6:11:18 GMT -5
Point taken about the Southern Hemisphere E climates. It totally slipped my mind. I would still take somewhere like Macquarie Island over Yakutsk though even if that may not be a popular choice. I guess people only really mostly like Dfa/Dfb climates on this forum.
The only hard-core cold lover who is active is shalop. IDK how you came to the conclusion that many of people here would be hard-core cold lovers. Almost everyone who likes cold winters here also like warm to hot summers, thus not being cold-lovers but four seasons lovers. Thus, like for me, Jan Mayen is an awful climate, because it has 3 good months, and 9 absolutely horrible months.
This graph is over a year old, but should give you an idea of the preferences of people:
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