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Post by Babu on Apr 17, 2021 19:54:38 GMT -5
I've had three different dream climate versions for years, one that is very similar to this one but even colder. The reason I mentioned the local geography etc. wasn't to make it seem better or worse for the actual battles (I don't expect there to be any description in the battles anyway), it was more of a personal justification for why I didn't make the winters cold and snowy enough for winter activities. I do love winter activities, and I can enjoy the occasional snowfall and cover, and some brief cold, but I don't want to live in a climate that gets heavy, deep or consistent snow. Luckily living in a climate with thick consistent snow isn't necessary for winter activities. The climate is heavily based off Gap, France but with an unrealistically quick spring warm up and late fall cool down because I can do that for a dream climate. I'm not trying to make up any scientific explanaitions for my unrealistic climate. The hill/mountain part (and the latitude) was the only part that wasn't a pure description of what's in the weatherbox.
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Post by Babu on Apr 17, 2021 20:11:54 GMT -5
cdweather.boards.net/post/84267/threadThere's hardly any inconsistency in my "new dream climate". Only thing that differs from this old one I made two years ago is I didn't make as many compromises for the sake of realism. I haven't really done any climate battles for the past year or two, who are you to tell me what my preferences are? I've also on multiple occations mentioned how I've started valuing dry and sunny winters more much more compared to warm or mild winters. I'm type-cast as a room-temp lover, but that's because proper 4 seasonal climates tend to be really cloudy in winter, or too hot in summer, or have too slow spring warmups, or be unnecessarily cold in winter. That's why I don't tend to rate 4-seasonal climates that highly most of the time.
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Post by nei on Apr 17, 2021 23:04:56 GMT -5
If we get an odd number, just make an average of everybody's boxes (adjusting for NH/SH seasons) and post that one. /s Please don't because that climate will probably win. would be curious how well it'd do. I'd guess it wouldn't win but come in top 4 or so
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Post by nei on Apr 17, 2021 23:06:38 GMT -5
sticking with the same climate
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Apr 18, 2021 0:25:06 GMT -5
sticking with the same climate That’s like my fictional dream climate, Palomares, that I posted earlier. Just yours has higher diurnals and warmer winters, with more even precipitation pattern. Still like it though, an A from me!
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Post by Ariete on Apr 18, 2021 5:05:08 GMT -5
Babu, if you want to submit a dream climate which isn't even remotely possible on this planet, the shitty data weather forum is a better place for you.
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Post by AJ1013 on Apr 18, 2021 5:10:34 GMT -5
Babu , if you want to submit a dream climate which isn't even remotely possible on this planet, the shitty data weather forum is a better place for you. I don't see why this is a problem. They're called "dream climates" for a reason, they don't need to be possible on earth.
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Post by Ariete on Apr 18, 2021 5:24:12 GMT -5
I don't see why this is a problem. They're called "dream climates" for a reason, they don't need to be possible on earth.
Dreams are often realistic, that's why we dream more about common life than about space travel or unicorns.
And in a tournament like this, a realistic dream climate creates an equal playing field. Creating and submitting a "perfect" climate with all the upsides and none of the downsides, just makes a very boring tournament imo. And unfair.
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Post by Ariete on Apr 18, 2021 5:57:00 GMT -5
Ignore Arietenvaara, this is my submission:
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Post by tommyFL on Apr 18, 2021 9:18:10 GMT -5
This is getting ridiculous. Of course a dream climate is going to have some unrealistic elements, that's what makes it a dream climate. Using the same logic people are trying to use to disqualify Baba's climate, any climate not found on this planet should be disqualified as well. That would include everything that's been posted here so far, since there are unrealistic features of each one. Will King Ariete be the arbiter of what is realistic and what is not? Hardly seems fair to me.
You say his climate has "all of the upsides and none of the downsides", but that is subjective anyway. Someone that hates snow is not going to see snowy winters as a positive, and a heat lover is not going to like the mild summers either. That's why it's impossible to create a fictional climate that everyone will like. People's weather preferences are just too varied. As far as I'm concerned, I don't see Baba's winning anyway so this seem like a lot of fuss over nothing.
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Post by AJ1013 on Apr 18, 2021 10:44:11 GMT -5
Made a wikibox for your climate deneb78 Looking at that colorless monstrosity was hurting my eyes lol
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Post by Steelernation on Apr 18, 2021 10:49:52 GMT -5
No one on here has a dream climate that’s an exact match to actual places. And some people have climates that aren’t that close. I bet if Alex entered his dream climate, no one would be shrieking about how unrealistic it is even though it’s just as impossible as Baba’s. And also it’s a dream climate so it doesn’t have to be realistic. It probably won’t win anyway and it’s only a tournament on an Internet forum without a prize so not a big deal if he does.
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Post by deneb78 on Apr 18, 2021 10:58:41 GMT -5
Made a wikibox for your climate deneb78 Looking at that colorless monstrosity was hurting my eyes lol Thanks AJ1013! I was going to back later and see if I could try again. I agree I like the colors better.
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Post by Ariete on Apr 18, 2021 11:17:42 GMT -5
This is getting ridiculous. Of course a dream climate is going to have some unrealistic elements, that's what makes it a dream climate. Using the same logic people are trying to use to disqualify Baba's climate, any climate not found on this planet should be disqualified as well. That would include everything that's been posted here so far, since there are unrealistic features of each one. Will King Ariete be the arbiter of what is realistic and what is not? Hardly seems fair to me. You say his climate has "all of the upsides and none of the downsides", but that is subjective anyway. Someone that hates snow is not going to see snowy winters as a positive, and a heat lover is not going to like the mild summers either. That's why it's impossible to create a fictional climate that everyone will like. People's weather preferences are just too varied. As far as I'm concerned, I don't see Baba's winning anyway so this seem like a lot of fuss over nothing.
Please lord Tommy, say what's so unrealistic about my dream climate for example. Or nei's. Or steeler's. Most of the ones posted here could well exist on this planet. Except Baba's.
And we have proof that a benign climate with a little bit of everything is a probable winner, because that's what happened last time. Tij made a climate based on our collective dream averages, and it was the perfect compromise, because it was impossible to hate. If you lilke snow, you got a bit of it in his climate, if you hated snow, you didn't have to suffer too much of it. If you liked heat, you got some very hot days, if you hate heat, it was just only for a few days.
Whatever. I'll want to win, so I pull a tij version of mine this time.
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Post by Cadeau on Apr 18, 2021 12:39:46 GMT -5
Ladies and Gentleman, let me introduce the representative climate of our fantasyland. Asheville and Milano can be the best compromise indeed. Mean ValuesMedian Values
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Post by Babu on Apr 18, 2021 12:41:45 GMT -5
This is getting ridiculous. Of course a dream climate is going to have some unrealistic elements, that's what makes it a dream climate. Using the same logic people are trying to use to disqualify Baba's climate, any climate not found on this planet should be disqualified as well. That would include everything that's been posted here so far, since there are unrealistic features of each one. Will King Ariete be the arbiter of what is realistic and what is not? Hardly seems fair to me. You say his climate has "all of the upsides and none of the downsides", but that is subjective anyway. Someone that hates snow is not going to see snowy winters as a positive, and a heat lover is not going to like the mild summers either. That's why it's impossible to create a fictional climate that everyone will like. People's weather preferences are just too varied. As far as I'm concerned, I don't see Baba's winning anyway so this seem like a lot of fuss over nothing.
Please lord Tommy, say what's so unrealistic about my dream climate for example. Or nei's. Or steeler's. Most of the ones posted here could well exist on this planet. Except Baba's.
And we have proof that a benign climate with a little bit of everything is a probable winner, because that's what happened last time. Tij made a climate based on our collective dream averages, and it was the perfect compromise, because it was impossible to hate. If you lilke snow, you got a bit of it in his climate, if you hated snow, you didn't have to suffer too much of it. If you liked heat, you got some very hot days, if you hate heat, it was just only for a few days.
Whatever. I'll want to win, so I pull a tij version of mine this time.
So you're saying that you're intentionally going to alter your dream climate so that other people will like it, or are you just going to take more "unrealistic freedom" in making the dream climate like you actually want it? Making it so that a climate gets many spikes of warm temperatures, but never many hot days in a row isn't immoral pandering to the audience in any way lol, it's completely legitimate. That's similar to how it works with santa ana winds in SoCal
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Post by Cadeau on Apr 18, 2021 12:47:43 GMT -5
Note: I combined precipitation days for those who only put rain/snow days and roughly calculated sunshine hours of Metsfan's climate based on the latitude and percentage provided.
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Post by Ariete on Apr 18, 2021 14:11:37 GMT -5
So you're saying that you're intentionally going to alter your dream climate so that other people will like it, or are you just going to take more "unrealistic freedom" in making the dream climate like you actually want it? Making it so that a climate gets many spikes of warm temperatures, but never many hot days in a row isn't immoral pandering to the audience in any way lol, it's completely legitimate. That's similar to how it works with santa ana winds in SoCal
My dream climate is completely realistic, and practically exists both in the US and Europe (Moldova). I happen to like realism.
I was obviously talking about Tij's "dream climate" which was tailor-made for the tournament. He even asked for hints and suggestions in the shoutbox etc.
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Post by Ariete on Apr 18, 2021 14:13:24 GMT -5
Ladies and Gentleman, let me introduce the representative climate of our fantasyland. Asheville and Milano can be the best compromise indeed. Mean ValuesMedian Values
Ok, I nominate the 2nd one as mine.
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Post by AJ1013 on Apr 18, 2021 14:47:23 GMT -5
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