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Post by Benfxmth on May 17, 2022 10:37:33 GMT -5
This thread is taking inspiration from Cheeseman 's thread about which dry-bulb temp ranges you consider cold/warm/hot, which dew point ranges do you find to be dry, comfortable, humid/muggy, oppressive, etc.? For me, when acclimatized to summer dew points, it'd be, especially if the temperature:dew point depression is greater than 10°F: >=81°F: Oppressive 76-80°F: Muggy 71-75°F: Slightly humid 61-70°F: Neutral 51-60°F: Dry <=50°F: Very dry My answer would be a bit different in the cooler half of the year. What about your takes? |
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Post by MET on May 17, 2022 10:48:41 GMT -5
DP over 15 but depends on temp.
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Post by Steelernation on May 17, 2022 12:06:10 GMT -5
Depends on temps but assuming warm temps >75 f which is when dew point starts mattering to me in terms of comfort.
>75 f: Oppressively humid
71-74 f: Very humid
66-70 f: Humid
61-65 f: Moderately humid
50-60 f: Neutral
40-49 f: Moderately Dry
<39 f: Dry
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Post by AJ1013 on May 17, 2022 12:09:47 GMT -5
>78F: Oppressive
72-77F: Muggy
65-72F: Very Humid
58-65F: Humid
48F-58F: Neutral
<48F. Dry
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Post by firebird1988 on May 17, 2022 13:04:40 GMT -5
Under 50°F=Dry
50-54°F=Comfortable
55°F-59°F=Slightly Moist
60°F-64°F=Humid
65°F-69°F=Muggy
70°F-74°F=Oppressive
75°F+=Miserable
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Post by greysrigging on May 17, 2022 17:25:04 GMT -5
This thread is taking inspiration from Cheeseman 's thread about which dry-bulb temp ranges you consider cold/warm/hot, which dew point ranges do you find to be dry, comfortable, humid/muggy, oppressive, etc.? For me, when acclimatized to summer dew points, it'd be, especially if the temperature:dew point depression is greater than 10°F: >=81°F: Oppressive 76-80°F: Muggy 71-75°F: Slightly humid 61-70°F: Neutral 51-60°F: Dry <=50°F: Very dry My answer would be a bit different in the cooler half of the year. What about your takes? ^^Thats about right, but i need to see it written like this: ( you Imperial Fahrenheit fuck !  ) >=27c: Oppressive 24.4-26.7c: Muggy 21.7-23.9c: Slightly Humid 16.1-20.0c: Neutral 10.6-15.6c: Dry <=10c: very Dry |
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Post by Cheeseman on May 17, 2022 19:07:58 GMT -5
Oppressive: 80 F (27 C) +
Disgusting: 75-79 F (24-26 C)
Humid: 70-74 F (21-23 C)
Muggy: 65-69 F (18-20 C)
Barely perceptible: 60-64 F (16-18 C)
Neutral: 32-59 F (0-15 C)
Nosebleed watch: < 32 F (0 C)
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Post by greysrigging on May 17, 2022 21:41:25 GMT -5
Was chatting with a mate up at Gunn Point ( 80klm north east by road from Darwin and on a bit of a peninsular.) He has an offical BOM weather station 200m away from where he lives. his DP's are nearly always 2-3c higher than Darwin, although often max and min temps are lower. He can and does see dews about 30c and max temps 31-32c. We often discuss how bad it 'feels like'
28c - 30c = really absolutely shithouse ( even for the acclimatised )
25c - 28c = really shithouse, especially in the mornings as the sun gets hotter. We get a few 34c/27c days in the Wet Season, trust me, its shithouse !
20c - 25c = pretty well the normal, so doesn't bother locals ( too much ), but interstate visitors from down south really suffer and complain.
15c - 20c = locals all saying, "what a magic dry season day it is today ! ( Sat the 7th May was 33c/13.4c a 3.30pm, dried out all my potted plants )
10c - 15c = deep in June/July, not a cloud in the sky for months at a time, just about forgotten how bad last 'wet' was....
5c - 10c = skin flaking, chapped lips, too cold to swim in the backyard pool, gusty winds blowing to 40knots, dangerous bushfires in Aug/Sept.
That's us at 12.4*S
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Post by desiccatedi85 on May 18, 2022 6:35:42 GMT -5
This is for summer, also taking into account average summer temperature conditions (around 85F)
76F+ = miserable
70F-75F = oppressive
65F-69F = uncomfortable
60F-64F = slightly humid
55F-59F = neutral
50F-54F = slightly dry
49F- = very dry
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 16:00:38 GMT -5
Here is how I categorise dew points measured, regardless of temperature. In addition, I will explain to you how my skin feels at the following dew point thresholds:
Unbearable: 27ºC (80.6ºF) and higher-I think that my skin will feel like an open sauna, fully made out of steam, and straight-up unbearable. Unbearable conditions are record breaking events in Sydney's summers.
Miserable: 24 to 27ºC (75.2-80.6ºF)- My skin will feel very clammy, and sweat will appear on the surface. It is most uncomfortable in the morning. Miserable conditions hardly ever occur in Sydney's summers.
Oppressive: 21 to 24ºC (69.8-75.2ºF)- My skin will feel rather clammy, and it even for my humidity-loving skin, the overwhelming moisture will take effect. Oppressive conditions occur for about 10% of summer.
Muggy: 18 to 21ºC (64.4-69.8ºF)- My skin will feel slightly clammy, but will not be so dry compared to Winter. Muggy conditions occur for about 30% of summer, and 10% of autumn/fall.
Acceptably Humid: 15 to 18ºC (59.0-64.4ºF)- My skin will feel slightly dry. Acceptably Humid conditions occur for about 40% of summer, 25% of autumn/fall, and 10% of spring.
Ideal: 12 to 15ºC (53.6-59.0ºF)- My skin will feel dry, but my mind will consider this range to be ideal. Ideal conditions occur for about 15% of summer, 25% of autumn/fall, and 25% of spring and 10% of winter.
Acceptably Dry: 9 to 12ºC (48.2-53.6ºF)- My skin will feel very dry, and peeling begins with scratching. Acceptably Dry conditions occur for about 5% of summer, 20% of autumn/fall, 30% of spring and 20% of winter.
Dry: 6 to 9ºC (42.8-48.2ºF)- My skin will feel severely dry, peeling begins with only minor scratching. Dry conditions occur for about 10% of autumn/fall, 20% of spring and 35% of winter.
Very Dry: 3 to 6ºC (37.4-42.8ºF)- My skin will feel extremely dry, peeling is inevitable. Very Dry conditions occur for about 5% of autumn/fall, 10% of spring, and 25% of winter.
Severely Dry: -3 to 3ºC (26.6-37.4ºF)- My skin will feel incomprehensibly dry, peeling occurs outside of "hotspots." Severely Dry conditions occur for about 5% of spring, and 10% of winter.
Extremely Dry: -9 to -3ºC (15.8-26.6ºF)- My skin will begin to peel and crack in most places. Extremely Dry conditions hardly ever occur in Sydney's winters.
Incomprehensibly Dry: -9ºC (15.8ºF) and lower- I think that my skin will crack and peel in all places, and fall off. Incomprehensibly Dry conditions are record breaking events in Sydney's winters.
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Post by alex992 on May 18, 2022 19:14:07 GMT -5
Depending on the temperature, but this is in general:
< 30 F = Very dry
30 - 40 F = Quite dry
40 - 50 F = Moderately dry
50 - 60 F = Neutral
61 - 65 F = Neutral, leaning humid
65 - 69 F = Solidly humid
70 - 74 F = Very humid
75 - 79 F = Oppressively humid
80 F + = Extremely humid
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 8, 2023 20:27:05 GMT -5
In general:
>78F: Extreme
74-78F: Oppressive
68-74F: Muggy
60-68F: Humid
40-60F: Comfortable
20-40F: Dry
<20F: Very Dry
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Post by tommyFL on Jan 8, 2023 20:38:36 GMT -5
For summer
> 85 F: Oppressive
80 F-85 F: Very humid
70 F-80 F: Neutral
65 F-70 F: Dry
< 65 F: Very dry
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Post by massiveshibe on Jan 8, 2023 21:05:22 GMT -5
20C or above: Hell
15-20: oppressive
15-10: muggy
5-10: humid
5C or below: comfortable
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Post by greysrigging on Dec 19, 2023 1:29:50 GMT -5
A reasonable explanation of dew point tolerances ( source: Aussie Weather Watch ) "Dew point is the temperature at which dew will form, the higher that dew point the more moisture is in the air. Most people think that high relative humidity is the best way to measure how uncomfortable it is but it is misleading, dew point is the best way to understand how muggy it really is. As a rule of thumb for most people living in a temperate area their whole lives will find a dew point of 15°C or higher uncomfortable and a dew point at 21°C to be oppressive and "Tropical like". Where as someone living in Darwin without AC (AC lowers dew point so if you are in AC alot your dew point tolerance is comparable to a person in a temperate climate) will find dew points of 21°C bare able, under 20°C feels dry and 26°C or over is oppressive. Older and younger people are also effected differently too. Here's a chart to give an idea, again this is based on someone living in a temperate region and is just an average. Individuals can have a higher or lower tolerance". Figures from Gunn Point, 70klm north of Darwin:   |
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Post by firebird1988 on Dec 19, 2023 7:04:08 GMT -5
A reasonable explanation of dew point tolerances ( source: Aussie Weather Watch ) "Dew point is the temperature at which dew will form, the higher that dew point the more moisture is in the air. Most people think that high relative humidity is the best way to measure how uncomfortable it is but it is misleading, dew point is the best way to understand how muggy it really is. As a rule of thumb for most people living in a temperate area their whole lives will find a dew point of 15°C or higher uncomfortable and a dew point at 21°C to be oppressive and "Tropical like". Where as someone living in Darwin without AC (AC lowers dew point so if you are in AC alot your dew point tolerance is comparable to a person in a temperate climate) will find dew points of 21°C bare able, under 20°C feels dry and 26°C or over is oppressive. Older and younger people are also effected differently too. Here's a chart to give an idea, again this is based on someone living in a temperate region and is just an average. Individuals can have a higher or lower tolerance". Figures from Gunn Point, 70klm north of Darwin: Good scale 👍 |
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Post by Kaleetan on Dec 19, 2023 9:43:03 GMT -5
<60: not humid at all
60-65: slightly noticeable
65-69: a little sticky
70-74: properly sticky
75-79: very sticky
80+: I don't think I've ever experienced this before
Keep in mind, I use "sticky" as a positive descriptor!
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Post by MET on Dec 19, 2023 13:37:01 GMT -5
Completely depends on what the accompanying temperature is for me.
If it's anything up to 22°C high humidity (as high as the temperature) is OK and can even feel cooler.
If the temp is over 30°C a DP over 16°C is no good.
And so it goes.
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Post by psychedamike24 on Dec 24, 2023 2:42:56 GMT -5
For summer > 85 F: Oppressive 80 F-85 F: Very humid 70 F-80 F: Neutral 65 F-70 F: Dry < 65 F: Very dry Does Florida actually experience 85 F dew points? Judging from Weatherspark and my phone's Weather app, that mostly seems exclusive to the Persian Gulf and Red Sea coasts, Indo-Gangetic Plain, Bay of Bengal coast of India, and certain parts of Mainland SE Asia (Chao Phraya delta, Red River delta) The indoor summer dew point where I live is usually between 15-20 C and often surpasses 20 C if it gets above 26 C (indoors) on several days in a row. Opening windows at night lowers the temperature but doesn't really equalize indoor dew point with outdoors, which is generally between 11-17 C but IMO is more likely to go below 11 C than above 17 C. > 25 C: oppressive, Asia-tier humidity 21-25 C: very humid 17-21 C: humid 11-17 C: neutral 7-11 C: dry <7 C: very dry |
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Post by greysrigging on Dec 24, 2023 3:00:46 GMT -5
For summer > 85 F: Oppressive 80 F-85 F: Very humid 70 F-80 F: Neutral 65 F-70 F: Dry < 65 F: Very dry Does Florida actually experience 85 F dew points? Judging from Weatherspark and my phone's Weather app, that mostly seems exclusive to the Pearl River Delta, Indo-Gangetic Plain, Bay of Bengal coast of India, and certain parts of Mainland SE Asia (Chao Phraya delta, Red River delta) The indoor summer dew point where I live is usually between 15-20 C and often surpasses 20 C if it gets above 26 C (indoors) on several days in a row. Opening windows at night lowers the temperature but doesn't really equalize indoor dew point with outdoors, which is generally between 11-17 C but IMO is more likely to go below 11 C than above 17 C. > 25 C: oppressive, Asia-tier humidity 21-25 C: very humid 17-21 C: humid 11-17 C: neutral 7-11 C: dry <7 C: very dry Dews above 29c are not that common in AU, and are noteworthy when they happen. 30c ( 86f ) I can recall on coastal sites in WA and NT tropics in the last few years but exceedingly rare and certainly out of the ordinary and of only short duration. In my experience dp's +26c-28c for days ( I want to botev with the word 'weeks' on end and 24/7 ) but, lol, it has been a tough last 7 days in and around coastal Darwin . |
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