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Post by massiveshibe on Jan 26, 2023 13:47:17 GMT -5
The Gale Crater has a cold and dry climate with absurd diurnal ranges. Weatherbox: imgur.com/a/PsvxFLL |
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Post by Benfxmth on Jan 26, 2023 14:17:35 GMT -5
A++++++++++
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Post by Speagles84 on Jan 26, 2023 15:30:52 GMT -5
Good climate. Could be colder in winter and use less precipitation
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Post by Ariete on Jan 26, 2023 15:56:03 GMT -5
I for I don’t rate stupid unrealistic climates
It's a real climate.
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 26, 2023 16:02:14 GMT -5
Didn’t realize that, neat find then. It gets an F obviously but an interesting climate. 130 f diurnals like that would be interesting to experience, must be a very rapid change at sunrise/sunset |
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Post by Benfxmth on Jan 26, 2023 16:11:42 GMT -5
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jan 26, 2023 16:14:55 GMT -5
C-, by inland Martian standards.
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Post by Ariete on Jan 26, 2023 16:18:22 GMT -5
Not cold enough for shalop.
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Post by Donar on Jan 26, 2023 17:02:12 GMT -5
I wonder how we would experience above freezing temperatures at such a low air density - as we sense the heat flux, not temperature.
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Post by massiveshibe on Jan 26, 2023 17:41:43 GMT -5
I wonder how we would experience above freezing temperatures at such a low air density - as we sense the heat flux, not temperature. It would probably feel much colder since the thinner air would allow more heat to escape from you. Fun fact: water boils at -5C in mars due to the low atmospheric pressure. |
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Post by Benfxmth on Jan 26, 2023 17:47:19 GMT -5
I wonder how we would experience above freezing temperatures at such a low air density - as we sense the heat flux, not temperature. It would probably feel much colder since the thinner air would allow more heat to escape from you. Fun fact: water boils at -5C in mars due to the low atmospheric pressure. *Sublimes |
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Post by tommyFL on Jan 26, 2023 17:54:19 GMT -5
I would say it would feel much warmer than the same temp on Earth does, with near zero heat transfer coefficient. Kind of like a more extreme version of how low humidity air has no feel to it compared to nice humid air.
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Post by massiveshibe on Jan 26, 2023 18:05:18 GMT -5
I would say it would feel much warmer than the same temp on Earth does, with near zero heat transfer coefficient. Kind of like a more extreme version of how low humidity air has no feel to it compared to nice humid air. The humid cold feeling colder can be explained by factors unrelated to humidity. Humid places usually have overcast drizzly weather and strong winds when compared to drier locations, which makes them feel colder. |
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Post by Benfxmth on Jan 26, 2023 18:06:38 GMT -5
I would say it would feel much warmer than the same temp on Earth does, with near zero heat transfer coefficient. Kind of like a more extreme version of how low humidity air has no feel to it compared to nice humid air. The humid cold feeling colder can be explained by factors unrelated to humidity. Humid places usually have overcast drizzly weather and strong winds when compared to drier locations, which makes them feel colder. Certain fabrics used in clothing (e.g. cotton) absorb moisture, thus oftentimes makes humid cold feel colder, along with cloudy weather. |
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Post by Ariete on Jan 26, 2023 18:09:13 GMT -5
Göle crater is the coldest crater on Mars. It is colder than Ardahan crater. Göle Crater is also colder than Gale crater. It is the coldest crater on Mars.
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Post by Benfxmth on Jan 26, 2023 18:31:15 GMT -5
Interesting study on how Martian temps might feel to us Earthlings journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/95/4/bams-d-12-00158.1.xml With an average temperature of −63°C and winter lows of −120°C, Mars sounds far too cold for humans. However, thermometer readings from Mars are highly misleading to terrestrials who base their expectations of thermal comfort on their experience in Earth's much thicker atmosphere. The two-planet model of windchill described here suggests that Martian weather is much less dangerous than it sounds because in the meager atmosphere of Mars, convection is a comparatively feeble heat transfer mechanism. The windchill on Mars is expressed as the air temperature on Earth that produces the same cooling rate in still air, in Earth's much denser atmosphere. Because Earth equivalent temperature (EET) is identical to the familiar wind chill equivalent temperature (WCET) that is broadcast across much of North America in winter, it provides a familiar context for gauging the rigors of weather on another planet. On Earth, WCET is always lower than the air temperature, but on Mars the equivalent temperature can be 100°C higher than the thermometer reading. Mars is much colder for thermometers than for people. Some frontier areas of Earth are at least as cold as midlatitude Mars is, year round. Summer afternoons in the tropics of Mars might even feel as comfortable as an average winter day in the south of England. Sunshine on Mars should be about as warm as it is on Earth. Heat balance and clothing emissivity are also briefly discussed. |
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Post by massiveshibe on Jan 26, 2023 19:47:24 GMT -5
Interesting study on how Martian temps might feel to us Earthlings journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/95/4/bams-d-12-00158.1.xml With an average temperature of −63°C and winter lows of −120°C, Mars sounds far too cold for humans. However, thermometer readings from Mars are highly misleading to terrestrials who base their expectations of thermal comfort on their experience in Earth's much thicker atmosphere. The two-planet model of windchill described here suggests that Martian weather is much less dangerous than it sounds because in the meager atmosphere of Mars, convection is a comparatively feeble heat transfer mechanism. The windchill on Mars is expressed as the air temperature on Earth that produces the same cooling rate in still air, in Earth's much denser atmosphere. Because Earth equivalent temperature (EET) is identical to the familiar wind chill equivalent temperature (WCET) that is broadcast across much of North America in winter, it provides a familiar context for gauging the rigors of weather on another planet. On Earth, WCET is always lower than the air temperature, but on Mars the equivalent temperature can be 100°C higher than the thermometer reading. Mars is much colder for thermometers than for people. Some frontier areas of Earth are at least as cold as midlatitude Mars is, year round. Summer afternoons in the tropics of Mars might even feel as comfortable as an average winter day in the south of England. Sunshine on Mars should be about as warm as it is on Earth. Heat balance and clothing emissivity are also briefly discussed.By that logic you wouldn’t freeze in space either since there is no air there to suck the heat from you. By the same logic the Earth would keep getting warmer infinitely as the heat wouldn’t have anywhere to go. My parents traveled to the highlands of Peru this year. They went to an elevation of 4000m above sea level, the temperature was around 10C during daytime and -5C at night. When they returned here (1200m above sea level and temperatures around 15C at day and 5C at night), they said that it felt colder here than in Peru. Why do climbers also freeze to death on Mount Everest? Why would this be the case if mountains had less air to steal the heat from our skins? |
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 26, 2023 19:49:21 GMT -5
Interesting study on how Martian temps might feel to us Earthlings journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/95/4/bams-d-12-00158.1.xml With an average temperature of −63°C and winter lows of −120°C, Mars sounds far too cold for humans. However, thermometer readings from Mars are highly misleading to terrestrials who base their expectations of thermal comfort on their experience in Earth's much thicker atmosphere. The two-planet model of windchill described here suggests that Martian weather is much less dangerous than it sounds because in the meager atmosphere of Mars, convection is a comparatively feeble heat transfer mechanism. The windchill on Mars is expressed as the air temperature on Earth that produces the same cooling rate in still air, in Earth's much denser atmosphere. Because Earth equivalent temperature (EET) is identical to the familiar wind chill equivalent temperature (WCET) that is broadcast across much of North America in winter, it provides a familiar context for gauging the rigors of weather on another planet. On Earth, WCET is always lower than the air temperature, but on Mars the equivalent temperature can be 100°C higher than the thermometer reading. Mars is much colder for thermometers than for people. Some frontier areas of Earth are at least as cold as midlatitude Mars is, year round. Summer afternoons in the tropics of Mars might even feel as comfortable as an average winter day in the south of England. Sunshine on Mars should be about as warm as it is on Earth. Heat balance and clothing emissivity are also briefly discussed.By that logic you wouldn’t freeze in space either since there is no air there to suck the heat from you. By the same logic the Earth would keep getting warmer infinitely as the heat wouldn’t have anywhere to go. My parents traveled to the highlands of Peru this year. They went to an elevation of 4000m above sea level, the temperature was around 10C during daytime and -5C at night. When they returned here (1200m above sea level and temperatures around 15C at day and 5C at night), they said that it felt colder here than in Peru. Why do climbers also freeze to death on Mount Everest? Why would this be the case if mountains had less air to steal the heat from our skins? The top of Mt Everest has something like 33% the air density of earths surface. Mars is around 1% iirc. |
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Post by massiveshibe on Jan 26, 2023 20:12:16 GMT -5
By that logic you wouldn’t freeze in space either since there is no air there to suck the heat from you. By the same logic the Earth would keep getting warmer infinitely as the heat wouldn’t have anywhere to go. My parents traveled to the highlands of Peru this year. They went to an elevation of 4000m above sea level, the temperature was around 10C during daytime and -5C at night. When they returned here (1200m above sea level and temperatures around 15C at day and 5C at night), they said that it felt colder here than in Peru. Why do climbers also freeze to death on Mount Everest? Why would this be the case if mountains had less air to steal the heat from our skins? The top of Mt Everest has something like 33% the air density of earths surface. Mars is around 1% iirc. Correct, it’s around 32.5% and Mars is even lower than 1%. I learned it somewhere that when the air is thin enough, objects start to lose heat through radiational cooling and the closer a vacuum the more the radiational cooling. It’s the main reason the Earth keeps losing heat to space. I also made a mistake in one of my replies: you wouldn’t freeze in space, but your saliva and blood would boil. |
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Post by Ethereal on Jan 27, 2023 2:50:45 GMT -5
 ^Nice to see Steelernation being humiliated. But heck, I thought it was a fictional climate too, just to show you that real world climates can be "unrealistic" as well! In all seriousness steelerboy, if you don't like to rate "stupid fictional climates" then don't bother commenting! It ain't hard... |
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