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Post by Babu on Nov 4, 2017 10:36:57 GMT -5
Located on a very slim peninsula in southern Portugal, summers are very mild compared to other Iberian climates, although with similar winters. The minimum temperatures are surprisingly low considering the moderation of the ocean. Its precipitation isn't high, but it's not semi-arid at least. The biggest striking feature is the sunshine however, which is the highest in Europe at 3200h.  For me it's an A climate. It's up there with the best in Europe together with Gibraltar and Gap. If only there were more summer precipitation it might even be A+, as the feature it lacks the most is lush vegetation. |
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Post by boombo on Nov 4, 2017 10:40:24 GMT -5
I'll give it a B, marked down only for the monotony of all that sunshine and the dry look I presume it has much of the year.
Comfort-wise though it does look pretty faultless.
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Post by Lommaren on Nov 4, 2017 10:50:12 GMT -5
A+ Tremendous climate year-round, ideal living conditions  Rarely too hot, never too cold! |
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Post by Steelernation on Nov 4, 2017 11:42:31 GMT -5
D. Pleasant but boring.
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Post by flamingGalah on Nov 4, 2017 11:52:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't trust those climate stats as Sagres (WMO station number 08533) has only been in operation since October 2001...
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Post by Lommaren on Nov 4, 2017 13:32:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't trust those climate stats as Sagres (WMO station number 08533) has only been in operation since October 2001... Météo Climat has stats from there since 1973  |
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Post by flamingGalah on Nov 4, 2017 13:58:29 GMT -5
I wouldn't trust those climate stats as Sagres (WMO station number 08533) has only been in operation since October 2001... Météo Climat has stats from there since 1973 Sagres has had 3 different weather stations from what I can tell, one from 1960 until 1980 another (WMO number 08538) than opened in June 1984 until March 2001 & the present one which opened in October 2001... There are long periods of missing data so not sure how 1981-2010 figures can be calculated. I remember this was discussed before on CD I think & the general consensus was that the figures on Meteo Climat were suspect. |
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Post by Lommaren on Nov 4, 2017 14:23:12 GMT -5
Sagres has had 3 different weather stations from what I can tell, one from 1960 until 1980 another (WMO number 08538) than opened in June 1984 until March 2001 & the present one which opened in October 2001... There are long periods of missing data so not sure how 1981-2010 figures can be calculated. I remember this was discussed before on CD I think & the general consensus was that the figures on Meteo Climat were suspect. SMHI sometimes move weather stations a few metres and replace them. Doesn't have to mean a big deal |
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Post by flamingGalah on Nov 4, 2017 14:30:09 GMT -5
Sagres has had 3 different weather stations from what I can tell, one from 1960 until 1980 another (WMO number 08538) than opened in June 1984 until March 2001 & the present one which opened in October 2001... There are long periods of missing data so not sure how 1981-2010 figures can be calculated. I remember this was discussed before on CD I think & the general consensus was that the figures on Meteo Climat were suspect. SMHI sometimes move weather stations a few metres and replace them. Doesn't have to mean a big deal It isn't the fact there are different stations that is a big deal, but the fact there are gaps in the records. You can't work out a 30 year set of averages with months, or even years worth of missing data. |
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Post by Lommaren on Nov 4, 2017 14:32:37 GMT -5
It isn't the fact there are different stations that is a big deal, but the fact there are gaps in the records. You can't work out a 30 year set of averages with months, or even years worth of missing data. At the end of a 30-year cycle is takes a 3.0C deviation to move a month even a full 0.1C in either direction. Which years/months specifically are missing from Sagres on Météo Climat throughout that period? It might be 0.1-0.2C off in some months but at the end of the day this Weatherbox gives a somewhat good analysis of the climate. Definitely better than Gandia and Benidorm |
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Post by flamingGalah on Nov 4, 2017 14:45:28 GMT -5
It isn't the fact there are different stations that is a big deal, but the fact there are gaps in the records. You can't work out a 30 year set of averages with months, or even years worth of missing data. At the end of a 30-year cycle is takes a 3.0C deviation to move a month even a full 0.1C in either direction. Which years/months specifically are missing from Sagres on Météo Climat throughout that period? It might be 0.1-0.2C off in some months but at the end of the day this Weatherbox gives a somewhat good analysis of the climate. Definitely better than Gandia and Benidorm I don't know about Meteo Climat as it doesn't list stats for every individual month, but there is no station data at all from 1981 until June 1984 & again from March 31st until October 1st 2001 when the most recent station opened. Would be better perhaps to work out averages from 2001 onwards, but even looking on Ogimet some days have missing data... But yes better than those Spanish towns  |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Nov 4, 2017 15:35:12 GMT -5
First, the vegetation. I had a feeling it would look ugly, and Google Street Views confirm it. Looks gray and lifeless. Every bit as depressing as the Sonoran desert. Not the lush jacaranda-filled heaven you would expect from such a climate lol
That said, the climate itself is very nice and agradable. A bit too cool in the summer, but the sunshine and the great winters make up for it. It's an A- climate, if you can ignore the ugly landscape
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Post by Hiromant on Nov 6, 2017 5:46:12 GMT -5
As comfortable as it is boring. It's like eating the most common dish in your culture every day for the rest of your life. C.
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Post by Babu on Nov 6, 2017 10:54:02 GMT -5
As comfortable as it is boring. It's like eating the most common dish in your culture every day for the rest of your life. C. It's a bit like eating pizza every day |
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Post by Lommaren on Nov 6, 2017 14:45:23 GMT -5
It's a bit like eating pizza every day Which actually could work if excersising outdoors in that climate every day  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 20:17:42 GMT -5
B, boring but very livable.
Much sunnier than anywhere in Spain too.
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Post by Ethereal on Nov 10, 2017 19:20:54 GMT -5
B.
Comfortable.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 19:45:32 GMT -5
Nice climate, would give it a B, but I like regular summer thunderstorms, which are lacking here, so it gets a C+.
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Post by rpvan on Mar 7, 2022 21:31:58 GMT -5
D-.
Too boring. Gets bumped up at touch over Honolulu since it has a bit more seasonality.
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Mar 7, 2022 23:00:36 GMT -5
B+, good. Like a wetter version of coastal SoCal. Could use more seasonality and winter/spring rain though.
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Rarely too hot, never too cold!
