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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2024 10:15:28 GMT -5
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Post by MET on Mar 13, 2024 10:15:48 GMT -5
Nope.
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Post by Benfxmth on Mar 13, 2024 10:21:32 GMT -5
Definitely not, summers are far too cool
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Post by tompas on Mar 13, 2024 10:41:38 GMT -5
Seattle is basically Nantes with drier summers and wetter winters.
And Nantes is firmly oceanic, meaning mild summers and winters. So no, Seattle is not subtropical.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2024 10:44:59 GMT -5
Seattle is basically Nantes with drier summers and wetter winters. And Nantes is firmly oceanic, meaning mild summers and winters. So no, Seattle is not subtropical. temps are indeed very similar |
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Post by Beercules on Mar 13, 2024 11:09:34 GMT -5
Oh my god no   |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 13, 2024 11:59:14 GMT -5
Lol
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Post by Cadeau on Mar 13, 2024 12:53:40 GMT -5
Personally I define a subtropical climate, where the average mean in the coldest & warmest month gets above 10°C & 22°C.
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Mar 13, 2024 13:24:49 GMT -5
Not in my system. It barely satisfies the winter requirement of all months means 42ºF+, but it fails the requirement of having a month with a mean of 75ºF+ by a longshot. Thus, it is grouped in the "subtropical" category for having all months means 42ºF+, but the specific climate is "warm oceanic Mediterranean".
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Post by Kaleetan on Mar 13, 2024 13:29:58 GMT -5
NO.
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Post by greysrigging on Mar 13, 2024 15:52:43 GMT -5
Sub what ??....jeez bloke.... maybe experience a real subtropical climate... you know, without snow, ice, frost and shit.... lol See those purple flowering trees ? Called Jacaranda { from South America } that are planted all over the subtropical, warm temperate ocianic and Med world... if they wont grow, ya dont live in the warm subtropics....   |
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Post by massiveshibe on Mar 13, 2024 16:02:08 GMT -5
Subtropical paradise indeed, just like Yakutsk.
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Post by Beercules on Mar 13, 2024 18:37:20 GMT -5
Okay fess up, who are the two members who voted yes?
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Post by omegaraptor on Mar 13, 2024 18:47:36 GMT -5
Get a plastic thermometer and find the blackest rooftop in Seattle and you’ll soon have your answer.
If not, just ask again in a few decades.
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Post by Cheeseman on Mar 13, 2024 21:23:49 GMT -5
Nothing subtropical about anywhere that's literally closer to the pole than the equator. Also nothing subtropical about those submild crummers.
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Post by Cheeseman on Mar 13, 2024 21:28:59 GMT -5
Nothing subtropical about anywhere that's literally closer to the pole than the equator. Also nothing subtropical about those submild crummers. the winters Not the only factor. A climate that's a Seattle winter year-round would be a treeless tundra due to the lack of anything resembling warmth (e.g. the "subtropical paradise" of Campbell Island). |
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Post by greysrigging on Mar 13, 2024 23:48:32 GMT -5
Get a plastic thermometer and find the blackest rooftop in Seattle and you’ll soon have your answer. If not, just ask again in a few decades. And change the name of the city to Seattleopoulos.....  |
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Post by psychedamike24 on Mar 13, 2024 23:59:19 GMT -5
Seattle would still fail the (extremely generous IMO) 6 C coldest month isotherm given that the Dec mean is slightly below that. It like Portland only has 7 months with mean temps above 10 C, so it fails the Trewartha test. I like to use the 10 C in the coldest month isotherm because that generally corresponds to the "winter coat/jacket" temperature threshold.
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Post by grega94 on Mar 14, 2024 2:06:01 GMT -5
No, Seattle has a high hardiness level (9a) but that has to do with oceanic moderation, nothing to do with the subtropics. Seattle only has two months with averages above 18C (lower limit for tropics). Most subtropical climates have at least 6 months > 18C.
Also Seattle’s hardiness zone is misleading, it can’t reliably grow as many subtropical plants as it’s hardiness zone suggests. Our long cool wet winters is death sentence for many subtropical plants even if in theory they are hardy enough to handle it, since these plants can only do so for short periods of time, not for months at a time.
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Post by melonside421 on Mar 14, 2024 6:25:31 GMT -5
Well, thats probably not the term I would use, but I can see why for some things. It is rather rational to say it's basically an oceanic climate, which is basically subtropical winters with cool summers(and cool springs)
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