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Post by Ethereal on Apr 30, 2024 7:15:06 GMT -5
Liverpool (a western Sydney suburb) is a good contender against Gaza considering its high Arab Muslim population. Also, both climates are similar regarding their highs. But that's where the similarities end...
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Post by tommyFL on Apr 30, 2024 7:16:07 GMT -5
Liverpool for correct precipitation pattern
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Post by Benfxmth on Apr 30, 2024 7:16:12 GMT -5
Gaza for being warmer all round. Those avg RH values seem BS for the diurnals though, at least to me.
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Post by tommyFL on Apr 30, 2024 7:23:04 GMT -5
Gaza for being warmer all round. Those avg RH values seem BS for the diurnals though, at least to me.How do you figure? Average diurnals have been almost exactly the same the past 3 years here, with slightly higher average humidity.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Apr 30, 2024 7:53:11 GMT -5
Liverpool is better in every way.
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Post by Benfxmth on Apr 30, 2024 8:21:34 GMT -5
Gaza for being warmer all round. Those avg RH values seem BS for the diurnals though, at least to me.How do you figure? Average diurnals have been almost exactly the same the past 3 years here, with slightly higher average humidity.
From a quick glance, nearby stations similarly close to the Palestinian/Israeli Mediterranean coastline have 2-3°F lower dewpoints (a few percent lower RH) on average in recent years based on GSOD/Ogimet daily summaries, I'm not sure what the POR is for the data provided for Gaza by the Arab Meteorology Book though (which is sourced in the Wiki weatherbox). Don't do dry climates usually have daily means biased closer to daily highs than daily lows (thus, reducing avg daily RH), as opposed to being biased closer to daily lows due to precip cooling in more humid climates?
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Post by tommyFL on Apr 30, 2024 8:30:17 GMT -5
How do you figure? Average diurnals have been almost exactly the same the past 3 years here, with slightly higher average humidity.
From a quick glance, nearby stations similarly close to the Palestinian/Israeli Mediterranean coastline have 2-3°F lower dewpoints (a few percent lower RH) on average in recent years based on GSOD/Ogimet daily summaries, I'm not sure what the POR is for the data provided for Gaza by the Arab Meteorology Book though (which is sourced in the Wiki weatherbox). Don't do dry climates usually have daily means biased closer to daily highs than daily lows (thus, reducing avg daily RH), as opposed to being biased closer to daily lows due to precip cooling in more humid climates?Yes, for inland deserts. That might not hold true for dry coastal climates though.
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Post by jgtheone on Apr 30, 2024 8:31:44 GMT -5
I'll go Gaza, but marginally. It does have the better precip pattern but it is too dry.
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Apr 30, 2024 8:59:48 GMT -5
Gaza for the dry summers and relatively rainy winters.
And yes Benfxmth those humidity figures look correct. Tel Aviv in summer averages 67-70% RH, but that is average afternoon relative humidity. The nighttime is more humid, of course, which makes me think the Gaza data is correct.
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Apr 30, 2024 9:04:16 GMT -5
From a quick glance, nearby stations similarly close to the Palestinian/Israeli Mediterranean coastline have 2-3°F lower dewpoints (a few percent lower RH) on average in recent years based on GSOD/Ogimet daily summaries, I'm not sure what the POR is for the data provided for Gaza by the Arab Meteorology Book though (which is sourced in the Wiki weatherbox). Don't do dry climates usually have daily means biased closer to daily highs than daily lows (thus, reducing avg daily RH), as opposed to being biased closer to daily lows due to precip cooling in more humid climates?Yes, for inland deserts. That might not hold true for dry coastal climates though. Having been there, I can tell you that at least Tel Aviv true daily means are closer to the lows than the highs, because of the seabreezes. The high is only reached briefly, and the temp spends a lot of time closer to the low, essentially staying the same all night too, as an almost constant wind from the Mediterranean blows in midsummer.
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Post by fairweatherfan on Apr 30, 2024 10:31:53 GMT -5
Liverpool because Gaza is too humid
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Post by arcleo on Apr 30, 2024 11:55:06 GMT -5
Liverpool is much better, for cooler, wetter, and less humid summers.
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Post by CRISPR on Apr 30, 2024 15:14:17 GMT -5
Liverpool for better temps and rainfall
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Post by Shaheen Hassan on Apr 30, 2024 15:19:51 GMT -5
Liverpool
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Post by Steelernation on Apr 30, 2024 17:10:53 GMT -5
Liverpool
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Post by rozenn on Apr 30, 2024 18:58:09 GMT -5
Liverpool, more precip and better distribution.
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Post by cawfeefan on May 1, 2024 7:58:36 GMT -5
Liverpool for being wetter and having better temps
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