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Post by nei on Feb 9, 2018 15:25:27 GMT -5
Former moderator (me) near Amherst in western Massachusetts  and current moderator (Volosong) near Coeur d'Alene in northern Idaho  Was surprised how close my climate was to Volosong's location in northern Idaho. Main differences: - Much drier especially in summer
- Winter nights much more milder in his climate, so more clouds
- Extreme lows are very similar; wikipedia says the average freeze-free season there is form May 3 to Oct 12. Mine is May 11 to Oct 4. Freeze = Air frost in British.
- Cooler summer lows, so less humidity
- More extreme heat records in summer there, while I have extreme heat records in winter pulled up from the south along the Atlantic
Number of rain days are the same, but they must get less downpours, number of snow days similar , too. I get snowy winters, but a lot of rain mixed in; not good for guaranteed snow. My climate is rather bad for thunderstorms, but his must have nearly 0 thunderstorms. Tough choice, but I'll take my stormier summer over his more comfortable, less humid ones. And my sunnier winters with more cold mornings over his gloomy but [usually] milder winter mornings. Usually since his records are similar to mine, but extreme cold probably happens less often there. Coeur d'Alene is at 47.7°N and at 2188 feet (670 m) while Amherst at 42.3°N and 295 feet (90 m); shows how much warmer the West is; even at 5° north, not right near the Pacific and higher up Coeur d'Alene manages the same annual mean as my climate. |
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Post by knot on Feb 9, 2018 15:31:32 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I will have to go with Voloschlong's climate; its higher midsummer diurnal ranges win it for me. Bugger me sideways and Fuck me dead   |
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Post by alex992 on Feb 9, 2018 15:38:13 GMT -5
Amherst for me, wetter, snowier and warmer summers (although not by much). Coeur D'Alene has too little diurnal ranges during winter.
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Post by Steelernation on Feb 9, 2018 15:45:43 GMT -5
Not often an eastern location beats an inland west location, but I’ll have to go with Amherst.
I like the dryness of CDA better, but rain days are similar, it lacks storms and Amherst has slightly warmer springs and more snow.
Very close though. It’s a C+ vs. a weak C+.
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Post by P London on Feb 10, 2018 17:37:09 GMT -5
Amherst - why is it so wet year round? Odd.
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Post by rpvan on Feb 10, 2018 18:12:33 GMT -5
Coeur d'Alene. Amherst is far too wet in the summer for my liking.
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Post by flamingGalah on Feb 10, 2018 18:30:33 GMT -5
Have to go with Voloschlong, because of the milder winter lows & less rainfall. Though neither climate are really my cup of tea...
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Post by boombo on Feb 10, 2018 18:43:00 GMT -5
Idaho because of the warmer winter nights and cooler summer nights  How the hell is the Idaho place so warm in winter, especially with the altitude?! Don't know much about that part of the US but I'd have guessed their January was something like -2/-15 lol, I always imagined Idaho as having a North Dakota-type climate. |
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Post by nei on Feb 10, 2018 20:40:21 GMT -5
Idaho because of the warmer winter nights and cooler summer nights How the hell is the Idaho place so warm in winter, especially with the altitude?! Don't know much about that part of the US but I'd have guessed their January was something like -2/-15 lol, I always imagined Idaho as having a North Dakota-type climate. most of Idaho doesn't have severe winters. West of the Rockies is generally much milder than east. The cold continental air usually stays more on the east side. Coldest part of North Dakota is the east side, which is at a lower elevation than the west side, as it gets colder going east from the Rockies. Maybe thinking of Idaho as the inland Pacific Northwest would make its mildness make sense? Like how eastern Europe is mild for its latitude even if its winter are harsher than western Europe. Here's a map of annual 925 hPa temperatures, or roughly at 800 m. |
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Post by nei on Feb 10, 2018 20:43:52 GMT -5
Amherst - why is it so wet year round? Odd. Hmm, thought that amount of rain is normal; it's only a bit higher than average for the eastern US. But it's rare for a climate in Europe to be that wet year-around without topography — some parts of Italy and southeast Europe but topography may be helping there, too. For Amherst; lots of moisture from the warm Atlantic, more distantly the Gulf of Mexico which adds to fronts further west that affect here. Add in strong temperature gradients outside summer to fuel frontal storms and convection and occasional remnants of tropical storms and it adds up to a lot of rain. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 20:51:34 GMT -5
Idaho guy, Nei's climate is really f***ing cold  |
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Post by Lommaren on Feb 10, 2018 20:52:01 GMT -5
Coeur d'Alene, for its cooler summer lows and milder winter lows. They're both too continental as they are, but Coeur d'Alene is at least manageable and not oppressive in any season.
Being drier also helps. I presume it may be sunnier too.
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Post by chesternz on Feb 11, 2018 0:19:32 GMT -5
I really don't know. Amherst has summers too wet for my liking but I'm concerned about the potential for winter rainfall in the other climate. Cold and snow is OK, but cold and rain is something I want to avoid at all costs. I'm looking at the discrepancy between winter snow days and precipitation days for Couer d'Alene and I'm thinking Amherst might be a better choice for me.
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Post by Babu on Feb 11, 2018 3:39:45 GMT -5
Idaho for cooler summers, milder winters and less rain though it would've been better if it were Dfb instead of Dsb.
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Post by P London on Feb 11, 2018 6:44:22 GMT -5
Amherst - why is it so wet year round? Odd. Hmm, thought that amount of rain is normal; it's only a bit higher than average for the eastern US. But it's rare for a climate in Europe to be that wet year-around without topography — some parts of Italy and southeast Europe but topography may be helping there, too. For Amherst; lots of moisture from the warm Atlantic, more distantly the Gulf of Mexico which adds to fronts further west that affect here. Add in strong temperature gradients outside summer to fuel frontal storms and convection and occasional remnants of tropical storms and it adds up to a lot of rain. That makes sense as your closer to very warm SST and on a continental landmass. Its odd just how wet the east coast is. Also there isn't a summer precipitation maximum? Its during the Autumn which I'm guessing is due to Nor'easters and Ex-Tropical storms? |
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Post by deneb78 on Feb 12, 2018 12:02:37 GMT -5
Coeur d'Alene for warmer winter nights and dry summers.
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Post by tij on Jun 23, 2019 23:04:10 GMT -5
I think i'm going for amherst even when i prefer climates in coeur d'alene's sreucture. Transitions and june/dec are better in amherst and summer nights aren't bad there, even if winter nights seem harsh. I prefer coeur d'alene's july and august though. My preferred precip pattern would be like a wetter version of coeur d'alenes with the total amt just less than amherst's. Both have solid winter precip unlike my location though.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Sept 1, 2023 8:54:56 GMT -5
Amherst is much better.
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Post by Benfxmth on Sept 1, 2023 8:56:01 GMT -5
Amherst
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Sept 1, 2023 8:56:35 GMT -5
Coeur d'Alene for the milder winters/springs, less snow, and amazing summer drought.
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