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Post by knot on Mar 22, 2018 17:59:12 GMT -5
Not quite as high as the summit of Mount Kosciuszko itself (2,228 m AMSL) and on the immediate downwind, so it would still prove about 2° C warmer year-round. Nevertheless, it is the closest possible representative of the highest Australian mountain's climate. The Station lies at 36.5° S and is elevated by 1,957 m AMSL. On account of its elevation and relatively high latitude, Thredbo Top Station holds a subantarctic ( Dfc) climate, closely bordering on a tundra ( ET) climate; the annual mean lies about 4.45° C. Most precipitation falls in the form of snow or sleet from winter through to spring, and thunderstorms in summer. Extreme winds are commonplace; sunshine hours should lay around the lower 2000s, with a distinct peak in summer. C+ from me: too cold year-round, but at least it's an exciting climate. Also, the precip figures (especially in winter) are seemingly very low because its precip gauge doesn't measure snowfall properly on account of lacking a heated gauge. In Jul for example it should average at least 300 mm, not a pitiful 110 mm.  <iframe width="18.879999999999995" height="6.300000000000011" style="position: absolute; width: 18.88px; height: 6.3px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 875px; top: -284px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_65974623" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.879999999999995" height="6.300000000000011" style="position: absolute; width: 18.88px; height: 6.3px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: -26px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_59740768" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.879999999999995" height="6.300000000000011" style="position: absolute; width: 18.88px; height: 6.3px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 875px; top: -26px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_51253755" scrolling="no"></iframe> |
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 22, 2018 18:01:17 GMT -5
E- Probably better than Tromsø and Kiruna but not much else positive to say about that subarctic freezer  |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 22, 2018 18:16:48 GMT -5
106 precipitation days really, not as bad as I thought. Still far too cool, wet and boring. F.
BTW it’s fucking pathetic that Australia barely manages a tundra climate for a whole continent.
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Post by knot on Mar 22, 2018 18:29:16 GMT -5
106 precipitation days really, not as bad as I thought. Still far too cool, wet and boring. F. BTW it’s fucking pathetic that Australia barely manages a tundra climate for a whole continent.Australia lies chiefly round 25° S, so make what you want of that  America goes up to bloody 49° N, with many locations round 44° N. Quite a high latitude! |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 22, 2018 18:38:31 GMT -5
Australia lies chiefly round 25° S, so make what you want of that America goes up to bloody 49° N, with many locations round 44° N. Quite a high latitude! Australia still goes down to 39 S. Plenty of locations at 39 N are elevated enough to have a tundra climate in all the other continents. Simply that Australia doesn’t have very tall mountains. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 22, 2018 18:40:18 GMT -5
C+
Looks worse than it probably is.
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Post by Beercules on Mar 22, 2018 18:55:04 GMT -5
E-
Shithouse. But, it atleast gets storms, unlike here.
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Post by alex992 on Mar 23, 2018 12:15:00 GMT -5
It's an interesting climate, but the summers are quite paltry and the record lows are way too close to average. I'd give it a D for the high snowfall and probably about ideal sunshine hours, precip amounts are quite nice too.
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Post by flamingGalah on Mar 23, 2018 13:46:25 GMT -5
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Post by Ethereal on Dec 19, 2021 20:23:02 GMT -5
E+
Pathetic summers, especially for its latitude and longitude. Amazed at how "continental" Australian climates can't have reliably warm summers!
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Post by knot on Dec 20, 2021 17:23:09 GMT -5
E+ Pathetic summers, especially for its latitude and longitude. Amazed at how "continental" Australian climates can't have reliably warm summers! Nothing "continental" about this climate, or in fact any climate in the SH apart from perhaps South America. "Continental" requires said climate to be located on a landmass which is connected in some way to the poles, and be characterised by high-pressure cold airmasses as opposed to low systems. And you do realise that lapse rates are steepest in summer, right? |
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Post by Benfxmth on Dec 20, 2021 23:58:17 GMT -5
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Post by Ariete on Dec 21, 2021 0:06:37 GMT -5
Thredbo = Gaybo. Too cold outside winter, too much precipitation, awful record lows, pathetic Scottish record highs.
E, it's liveable.
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Post by Ethereal on Dec 21, 2021 0:28:10 GMT -5
E+ Pathetic summers, especially for its latitude and longitude. Amazed at how "continental" Australian climates can't have reliably warm summers! Nothing "continental" about this climate, or in fact any climate in the SH apart from perhaps South America. "Continental" requires said climate to be located on a landmass which is connected in some way to the poles, and be characterised by high-pressure cold airmasses as opposed to low systems. And you do realise that lapse rates are steepest in summer, right? I know Thredbo is not a bona fide continental climate (that's why I used quotes). Though I personally associate continentality with contrasting temperature difference between summer and winter (few others do as well). Thredbo was not the best contender for a continental climate I'd admit. Perhaps Kiandra or Cabramurra can come close to being "continental". Anyway, my main point was that it's a bit strange how Thredbo's summers are pretty cool for its latitude and decently inland location, despite its high altitude. A place around 1,900m above sea level in, say, eastern USA (at the same latitude and distance from the Atlantic Ocean, perhaps in North Carolina) would probably be much warmer in the summer. What is keeping Thredbo from having hot summers when there's a huge hot desert nearby in the landmass? Australia is a large landmass, it's not like it's a small island. Perhaps the Southern Ocean is a huge influencer here and the westerly fronts are more impactful...? |
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Post by knot on Dec 21, 2021 17:05:41 GMT -5
I know Thredbo is not a bona fide continental climate (that's why I used quotes). Though I personally associate continentality with contrasting temperature difference between summer and winter (few others do as well). Thredbo was not the best contender for a continental climate I'd admit. Perhaps Kiandra or Cabramurra can come close to being "continental". Anyway, my main point was that it's a bit strange how Thredbo's summers are pretty cool for its latitude and decently inland location, despite its high altitude. A place around 1,900m above sea level in, say, eastern USA (at the same latitude and distance from the Atlantic Ocean, perhaps in North Carolina) would probably be much warmer in the summer. What is keeping Thredbo from having hot summers when there's a huge hot desert nearby in the landmass? Australia is a large landmass, it's not like it's a small island. Perhaps the Southern Ocean is a huge influencer here and the westerly fronts are more impactful...? Thredbo Top is the very worst you could do for "continental" in inland NSW at such a latitude—it only ranges 16° C in maxima from the warmest to coolest month (or 17° C with 1991–2020). Khancoban and Corryong both range about 20° C; the highest seasonal range in the country. My climate (Maragle) ranges 19° C. All far better contenders than Thredbo Top, and such climates cover a pretty significant land area. Hell, even Parkes and Forbes are much better contenders, notwithstanding the latitudinal difference. Mount Mitchell, NC is the American equivalent of Thredbo Top (1,902 m AMSL @ 36° N). It's evidently much warmer not only in summer, but also throughout the year: annual means are 4.8° C for Thredbo Top (1991–2020); and 6.1° C for Mt. Mitchell. Why is Thredbo so much cooler? Lapse rates are much steeper in AU summers (due to being much drier), as well as the fact that Thredbo Top gets almost exclusively cold fronts (as opposed to majority warm fronts, as in the case of Mt. Mitchell). As for Thredbo's slightly cooler winter maxima, this is unquestionably due to the higher cloud cover of NSW winters; constituting a lower diurnal range. |
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Post by CRISPR on Mar 2, 2024 17:55:39 GMT -5
E-. At least the Australian sun is strong
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Post by cawfeefan on Mar 2, 2024 18:59:13 GMT -5
E, at least it's not extreme
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Post by greysrigging on Mar 3, 2024 3:41:57 GMT -5
D-, perhaps an E+..... Not my fav type of climate, but still, pretty extreme by AU standards. Most Aussies have never experienced a climate like this.... after all no bastard lives on top of a mountain at a ski resort in this country. Most Aussies have never even seen snow, let alone are wealthy enough to do trips to the ski resorts, which, true to AU culture, charge an arm and a leg to freeze ya tits/balls off on the once or twice a decade 'trip to the snow' My father hated our annual 'trips to see the snow'   |
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Post by cawfeefan on Mar 3, 2024 3:49:36 GMT -5
D-, perhaps an E+..... Not my fav type of climate, but still, pretty extreme by AU standards. Most Aussies have never experienced a climate like this.... after all no bastard lives on top of a mountain at a ski resort in this country. Most Aussies have never even seen snow, let alone are wealthy enough to do trips to the ski resorts, which, true to AU culture, charge an arm and a leg to freeze ya tits/balls off on the once or twice a decade 'trip to the snow' My father hated our annual 'trips to see the snow'Haha was he forced to go by someone else then? |
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Post by greysrigging on Mar 3, 2024 4:20:59 GMT -5
D-, perhaps an E+..... Not my fav type of climate, but still, pretty extreme by AU standards. Most Aussies have never experienced a climate like this.... after all no bastard lives on top of a mountain at a ski resort in this country. Most Aussies have never even seen snow, let alone are wealthy enough to do trips to the ski resorts, which, true to AU culture, charge an arm and a leg to freeze ya tits/balls off on the once or twice a decade 'trip to the snow' My father hated our annual 'trips to see the snow'Haha was he forced to go by someone else then? The constant whining and pestering by me and my sister 'we wanna go to the snow'..... we had short term memory loss because every year with after 15 mins we had wet feet, wet clothes and grizzled about wanting to go home........ Dad would remind us of the previous years trip, but we had forgotton all that and wanted to go to Mt Buffalo again.... lol |
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