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Post by massiveshibe on Dec 31, 2022 6:03:53 GMT -5
Everybody wants to live in the tropics but nobody wanna see no huge ass bugs.
Everyone travels to the Crapribbean, Shitgapore, Cuntbodia, Trannyailand and Fuckorida, but they all stay in safe hotels, far away from the bugs. They think the only bad thing about the tropics are mosquitos. But when those people see a 1 foot wide spider, or when their Aircon unit stops working, they quickly realize the reality of living in the tropics.
I live in the subtropics, which is a light version of the tropics. There is a spider known as “Loxosceles Laeta” or “Brown Spider” that plagues the houses here. Those spiders are small and don’t look very threatening, but they can give you a very painful death. I’ve never seen a tarantula in this town at least.
I remember the first time I saw a tarantula, I was with my girlfriend visiting her hometown in the middle of summer. I saw a huge tarantula in the yard and I screamed. She laughed at me. At night she did not let me turn on the aircon unit because “it isn’t good for my nose, the fan is already enough”, so I spent the entire night suffering. No I did not sleep for a single second that night. Her town is not even tropical to begin with, it’s actually subtropical, borderline tropical, and it’s also a large town, so I can’t imagine what it would feel like actually living deep in the tropics in a rural area.
Just for comparison, my town has a Cfb climate and is located at 28S, while my gf’s hometown has a Cfa/Cwa/Aw climate depending on the part of the city and is located at around 20S.
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Post by Cheeseman on Dec 31, 2022 8:01:34 GMT -5
Nope.
In fact, tropical climates are underrated by the many delusional people who think they want it to be -60 C all winter.
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Post by firebird1988 on Dec 31, 2022 8:05:18 GMT -5
I'm 50/50 on it, as I love the temps, but not a fan of year round 20°C+ dews
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Post by Benfxmth on Dec 31, 2022 8:10:02 GMT -5
No. This is a subjective opinion, but tropical climates are my next favorite after the subtropical group of climates
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Post by St. Middleway on Dec 31, 2022 8:44:39 GMT -5
Possibly. Most ignorant public seem to think anything that's much warmer than the UK is "tropical", when it's likely subtropical or Mediterranean they are thinking of. True tropical is incessant humidity, 30°C+ temps most every day of the year, huge insects, and frequent torrential downpours, in reality I don't think most people like that too much.
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Post by Steelernation on Dec 31, 2022 10:23:33 GMT -5
You just have a phobia of spiders. I don’t like the tropics because I like winter weather and don’t like the heat and don’t vacation there because the beach is boring. The cool wildlife is not an issue though.
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Post by antares on Dec 31, 2022 14:33:32 GMT -5
Yet another dumb thread.
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Post by Metsfan257 on Dec 31, 2022 19:12:19 GMT -5
No, the tropics in general aren’t overrated. They’re just properly rated, great places to vacation to, but mostly not so great to live in. Tropical rainforests are overrated though, I will agree on that. The rest of the tropics though, can have some okay climates, especially the ones that are on the cooler side of tropical, or are subhumid or semiarid zones.
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Post by firebird1988 on Jan 1, 2023 12:32:20 GMT -5
No, the tropics in general aren’t overrated. They’re just properly rated, great places to vacation to, but mostly not so great to live in. Tropical rainforests are overrated though, I will agree on that. The rest of the tropics though, can have some okay climates, especially the ones that are on the cooler side of tropical, or are subhumid or semiarid zones. Reminds me of that Season 3 Episode of South Park, Rainforest Schmainforest, with Jennifer Aniston doing a guest voice of a teacher who takes the kids to the rainforest in Costa Rica "Fuck the rainforest, I fucking hate it, I fucking hate it!!!" 🤣 |
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Post by greysrigging on Jan 1, 2023 19:02:32 GMT -5
No, the tropics in general aren’t overrated. They’re just properly rated, great places to vacation to, but mostly not so great to live in. Tropical rainforests are overrated though, I will agree on that. The rest of the tropics though, can have some okay climates, especially the ones that are on the cooler side of tropical, or are subhumid or semiarid zones. Mind you, do more people in the world live between the Tropic of Capricorn and the Tropic of Cancer ? i dunno, have to look up the stats....  * edit: ok, 40% of the earth's mass and about 40% of the earth's population * |
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 1, 2023 19:20:54 GMT -5
Tropics suck
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Post by Metsfan257 on Jan 1, 2023 22:24:36 GMT -5
No, the tropics in general aren’t overrated. They’re just properly rated, great places to vacation to, but mostly not so great to live in. Tropical rainforests are overrated though, I will agree on that. The rest of the tropics though, can have some okay climates, especially the ones that are on the cooler side of tropical, or are subhumid or semiarid zones. Mind you, do more people in the world live between the Tropic of Capricorn and the Tropic of Cancer ? i dunno, have to look up the stats.... * edit: ok, 40% of the earth's mass and about 40% of the earth's population * Plenty of highland places deep inside the geographical tropics with massive populations (Bogotá, for example) do NOT have tropical climates. Also, some places in the subtropical latitudes have true tropical climates (South Florida, parts of India and Southern Africa). The geographic definition of the tropics is thus a flawed standard.
Tropical to me means that a place is winterless, and I define it as means of at least 62F in all months. The cooler, seasonally wet/dry tropical climes (with annual means below 80F) really are fit for human habitation. The equatorial ones, which I define as having annual means of 80F+, as well as the rainforests, are true hellholes. |
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Post by greysrigging on Jan 1, 2023 22:30:22 GMT -5
Mind you, do more people in the world live between the Tropic of Capricorn and the Tropic of Cancer ? i dunno, have to look up the stats.... * edit: ok, 40% of the earth's mass and about 40% of the earth's population * Plenty of highland places deep inside the geographical tropics with massive populations (Bogotá, for example) do NOT have tropical climates. Also, some places in the subtropical latitudes have true tropical climates (South Florida, parts of India and Southern Africa). The geographic definition of the tropics is thus a flawed standard.
Tropical to me means that a place is winterless, and I define it as means of at least 62F in all months. The cooler, seasonally wet/dry tropical climes (with annual means below 80F) really are fit for human habitation. The equatorial ones, which I define as having annual means of 80F+, as well as the rainforests, are true hellholes. Just like that hellhole Singapore ( pop 5.5million ) right on the Equator at sea level.....  |
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Post by Cheeseman on Jan 2, 2023 7:59:27 GMT -5
Tropical to me means that a place is winterless, and I define it as means of at least 62F in all months. The cooler, seasonally wet/dry tropical climes (with annual means below 80F) really are fit for human habitation. The equatorial ones, which I define as having annual means of 80F+, as well as the rainforests, are true hellholes. That's a silly definition, considering that's not what winter is. Tommy was right: people who harp on about 'real winter' or 'real summer' being tied to specific temperature thresholds tend to be the same ones who've lived in climates with cold winters and warm summers most of their lives. In reality, it's all relative. "Winter" just means the time of year with cooler temperatures and less daylight - and as far as I'm concerned, anywhere with a large enough difference between summer and winter temps that an average summer day and an average winter day can't easily be confused with each other can be said to have a summer and a winter, and therefore spring and autumn (which are the transitions between the two) as well. Miami has a mean of 68.6 F in January and 84.2 F in July. That's still pretty substantial. How likely are you to get a 76/60 day typical of winter, in July? Or a 91/78 day typical of summer, in January? Looking at the record lows for July and the record highs for January, the answer is 'not at all'. Ergo, Miami has a winter and a summer - not a cold winter per se, but a mild winter: a break from the consistent warmth and intense humidity of summer. There'd be no problem with your comment if you'd just said that a tropical climate to you has a mean of 62 F or above in all months - just don't tie it to your own standards that come from your experiences living in colder climates. |
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Post by firebird1988 on Jan 2, 2023 8:18:10 GMT -5
Tropical to me means that a place is winterless, and I define it as means of at least 62F in all months. The cooler, seasonally wet/dry tropical climes (with annual means below 80F) really are fit for human habitation. The equatorial ones, which I define as having annual means of 80F+, as well as the rainforests, are true hellholes. That's a silly definition, considering that's not what winter is. Tommy was right: people who harp on about 'real winter' or 'real summer' being tied to specific temperature thresholds tend to be the same ones who've lived in climates with cold winters and warm summers most of their lives. In reality, it's all relative. "Winter" just means the time of year with cooler temperatures and less daylight - and as far as I'm concerned, anywhere with a large enough difference between summer and winter temps that an average summer day and an average winter day can't easily be confused with each other can be said to have a summer and a winter, and therefore spring and autumn (which are the transitions between the two) as well. Miami has a mean of 68.6 F in January and 84.2 F in July. That's still pretty substantial. How likely are you to get a 76/60 day typical of winter, in July? Or a 91/78 day typical of summer, in January? Looking at the record lows for July and the record highs for January, the answer is 'not at all'. Ergo, Miami has a winter and a summer - not a cold winter per se, but a mild winter: a break from the consistent warmth and intense humidity of summer. There'd be no problem with your comment if you'd just said that a tropical climate to you has a mean of 62 F or above in all months - just don't tie it to your own standards that come from your experiences living in colder climates. I agree with you somewhat, but there is a spectrum of tropical climates, what you speak of are equitorial, the most rigid, and only occur within around 12 to 14 degrees either side of the equator. A place like Miami is at the outer margin before the climate grades to subtropical, but Miami can experience say an 83°F/73°F day any month of the year, isn't that good enough? |
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Post by Cheeseman on Jan 2, 2023 8:44:19 GMT -5
That's a silly definition, considering that's not what winter is. Tommy was right: people who harp on about 'real winter' or 'real summer' being tied to specific temperature thresholds tend to be the same ones who've lived in climates with cold winters and warm summers most of their lives. In reality, it's all relative. "Winter" just means the time of year with cooler temperatures and less daylight - and as far as I'm concerned, anywhere with a large enough difference between summer and winter temps that an average summer day and an average winter day can't easily be confused with each other can be said to have a summer and a winter, and therefore spring and autumn (which are the transitions between the two) as well. Miami has a mean of 68.6 F in January and 84.2 F in July. That's still pretty substantial. How likely are you to get a 76/60 day typical of winter, in July? Or a 91/78 day typical of summer, in January? Looking at the record lows for July and the record highs for January, the answer is 'not at all'. Ergo, Miami has a winter and a summer - not a cold winter per se, but a mild winter: a break from the consistent warmth and intense humidity of summer. There'd be no problem with your comment if you'd just said that a tropical climate to you has a mean of 62 F or above in all months - just don't tie it to your own standards that come from your experiences living in colder climates. I agree with you somewhat, but there is a spectrum of tropical climates, what you speak of are equitorial, the most rigid, and only occur within around 12 to 14 degrees either side of the equator. A place like Miami is at the outer margin before the climate grades to subtropical, but Miami can experience say an 83°F/73°F day any month of the year, isn't that good enough? I recognize Miami as a tropical climate while also considering it to have four seasons - the two aren't mutually exclusive. I'd even say my dream climate has four seasons - you're not going to have an 80/62 day in summer. Only equatorial climates would be the ones not to have distinct seasons, not unless you've got some really moderated climate on a small island in the middle of nowhere somewhere. Milwaukee, WI has a record high of 63 F in January and a record lowest high of 58 F in August - in other words, highs of 60 F can happen at any time of year. (Indeed, Dec 3 2012 was 65/44, and Jul 27 2013 was 64/56.) Obviously, Milwaukee has four seasons and is nowhere close to an equatorial or even tropical climate. |
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Post by deneb78 on Jan 5, 2023 15:49:10 GMT -5
Tropical climates are awesome! I don't mind the bugs so much as long as there are effective ways to deal with them. My biggest issue with most Tropical areas with a small number of exceptions (Singapore, Australia, Hawaii South Florida) are that they often in developing countries with substandard infrastructure, so if you get sick or have a problem, it's not easy to resolve.
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Post by melonside421 on Jan 6, 2023 17:29:28 GMT -5
Yes and no. It really depends on what you can consider; so, let's go over bad things first. Bad things: bugs, excessive humidity (for the temperatures), and the heat Good things: No killing frost for crops, somewhat comfortable for humans, especially for swimming in the water, which at times is a fun activity I think subtropical climates can be seen as both subjectively and even objectively better than tropical climates, since the best civilizations started and thrived in such climates. I personally would prefer subtropical over tropical any day, even if tropical areas have zero frost on average all year round. Even for that, that would be kinda boring imo. I like some seasonal changes but America gets too wacky sometimes during the winter/spring/fall, like in December 2022 for instance, not even a dusting of snow for all that cold  |
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Post by greysrigging on Jan 6, 2023 17:53:13 GMT -5
^^ It's a bit of a fallacy, the whole 'tropics dont have seasonal variety' mantra. Other than Equatorial regions, tropical climates ( eg Northern AU ) may have as many as 6 seasonal changes per year....its just that they're not the traditional higher latitude seasons of spring, summer, autumn and winter.
But they are just as noticeable to locals.
THE SEASONS:
Kudjewk – Monsoon Season
December to March. 24°C – 34°C
This is the true tropical summer – thunderstorms, heavy rain and flooding.
Kudjewk’s heat and humidity cause an explosion of plant and animal life. Speargrass grows to over two metres tall and gives the woodlands a silvery-green hue.
Magpie geese nest in the wetlands while widespread flooding drives goannas, snakes and rats to seek refuge in the trees. Eggs and stranded animals are a good source of food for local Aboriginal people during this time.
Bangkerreng – ‘Knock ‘em down’ Storm Season
April. 23°C – 34°C
By April the rain clouds have dispersed and clear skies prevail. The vast expanses of floodwater recede and streams start to run clear again. Most of Kakadu’s plants are fruiting and its animals are caring for their young.
The early days of Bangkerreng are marked by violent, windy storms that flatten the speargrass – these are called ‘knock ‘em down’ storms.
Yekke – Cooler (but still humid) Season
May to mid-June. 21°C – 33°C
This is a relatively cool time with less humidity. Early-morning mists hang low over the plains and the shallow wetlands and billabongs are carpeted with water lilies.
Dry winds and flowering Darwin woollybutt tell local Aboriginal people that it’s time to start patch burning to ‘clean the country’ and encourage new growth.
Wurrkeng – Cold Weather Season
Mid-June to mid-August. 17°C – 32°C
This is the cold time – at least by Northern Territory standards. Humidity is low, while daytime temperatures are around 30°C and drop to about 17°C at night.
Most creeks stop flowing in Wurrkeng and the floodplains quickly dry out. The Bininj/Mungguy continue patch burning, which is extinguished by the dew at night. Birds of prey patrol the fire lines during the day as insects and small animals escape the flames.
Magpie geese, fat and heavy after weeks of abundant food, crowd the shrinking billabongs with a myriad of other waterbirds.
Kurrung – Hot Dry Weather
Mid-August to mid-October. 23°C – 37°C
Kurrung is hot and dry. It is still ‘goose time’ but also time for local Aboriginal people to hunt file snakes and long-necked turtles.
Sea turtles lay their eggs on the sandy beaches of Field Island and West Alligator Head, where goannas sometimes rob the nests. White-breasted wood swallows arrive as the thunderclouds start to build.
Kunumeleng – Pre-Monsoon Storm Season
Mid-October to late December. 24°C – 37°C
Kunumeleng is the pre-monsoon season, with hot weather that becomes increasingly humid. It can last from a few weeks to several months.
Thunderstorms build in the afternoons and showers bring green to the dry land. As the streams begin to run, acidic water from the floodplains can kill fish in billabongs with low oxygen levels. Barramundi move from the waterholes to the estuaries to breed, and waterbirds spread out with the increased surface water and plant growth.
Kunumeleng was when Aboriginal people traditionally moved camp from the floodplains to the stone country to shelter from the coming monsoon.
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Post by Benfxmth on Jan 21, 2023 15:40:12 GMT -5
No, the tropics in general aren’t overrated. They’re just properly rated, great places to vacation to, but mostly not so great to live in. Tropical rainforests are overrated though, I will agree on that. The rest of the tropics though, can have some okay climates, especially the ones that are on the cooler side of tropical, or are subhumid or semiarid zones. Mind you, do more people in the world live between the Tropic of Capricorn and the Tropic of Cancer ? i dunno, have to look up the stats.... * edit: ok, 40% of the earth's mass and about 40% of the earth's population *
I. Hot weather is great for being outdoors, and cold weather ruins those activities.
1. Ever had to spend 10 minutes finding your parka just to go out in a bitterly cold day?
2. Are you going to lose your limbs, extremities and be disabled for the rest of your life without extreme precautions in 110°F heat? A big fat NO!
3. Even in the hottest climates, people have gone without air conditioning or any climate control for millennia. The same can't be said for the coldest climates.
II. Humid cold, cold rain and snow is uncomfortable as fuck
1. Handsome T-storms with epic lightning shows and warm rain is amazing, however 
2. The feeling of a nice warm blanket with fragrant air in humid heat, or a warm breeze in dry heat feels amazing
3. The feeling of going from hot weather to cold weather (such as in places with variable summers or in fall after a nicely warm summer) feels like absolute hell
4. The feeling of warmth after a cold winter feels amazing, however!
III. Cold subarctic maritime overcast weather is depressing and uncomfortable as fuck
IV. You don't have to shovel sunshine.
V. Cold weather does not attract tourists.
1. Do you ever hear of people jetting off in winter to places like Fairbanks, Minneapolis, Umeå, Yellowknife in winter? NO!
2. I do continually hear of people jetting off to warm tropical/subtropical places like the U.S. South, SoCal, the Mediterranean and SE Asia (e.g. Thailand) however!
VI. Living in cold, cloudy climates is known to make people and societies less friendly.
1. People in places like Canada, the UK, France and Sweden, etc. are often very unfriendly, rude and arrogant
2. People living in warmer climes/regions like the U.S. South, the Med, etc. are all easier to get along with
VII. Hot weather is life, whereas cold weather is anti-life and breeds depression.
1. People get depressed, offing themselves and drinking to death in cold subarctic hellholes
VIII. It's much easier to acclimatize to the heat than to the cold!
IX. It's much easier to cool off than to warm yourself up.
1. Ever felt your hands and feet hurt from the cold? Well, it takes a lot of time to warm them up! Whereas with hot weather, all you need to do is take a cool shower and drink plenty of water, and you'll feel comfortable for several hours!
X. Especially in places with already cold winters, the feeling of that summer will end soon is depressing as fuck! |
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