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Post by Ethereal on Apr 4, 2024 6:10:59 GMT -5
It is generally acknowledged that six cradles of civilisation exist: Mesopotamia, Ancient Egypt, Ancient India, Ancient China, Mesoamerica and the Andes. Though I also included a Southern European region (Greece). Here are the modern (proximate) sites of these "cradles of civilization":  |
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Post by Cadeau on Apr 4, 2024 6:37:22 GMT -5
The Greek(Heraklion), I doubt about that diurnal ranges during the summer though. The Peruvian one doesn’t look bad either temperature-wise but located too close to the Equator and extremely arid. Others choices are simply too hot in summer.
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Post by Benfxmth on Apr 4, 2024 6:39:40 GMT -5
Sipacate. Cairo has the best temps out of these, but is far too dry and gets fuck all storms.
All decent climates though, this is hard-copy proof that warm/hot climates are superior and more conducive to human life.
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Post by tommyFL on Apr 4, 2024 6:57:10 GMT -5
Sipacate is the most hospitable of these
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Post by St. Middleway on Apr 4, 2024 7:22:53 GMT -5
Heraklion for having decent winter temperatures.
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Post by fæglèr on Apr 4, 2024 7:53:04 GMT -5
Sipacate is the best. All the others are very dry, interestingly.
Out of those the best are Yuncheng and Heraklion.
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Post by Kaleetan on Apr 4, 2024 8:37:04 GMT -5
Sipacate is a wonderful climate. Interesting that all the cradles of civilization are in relatively warm climates. I wonder what this says about the cold.
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Post by tompas on Apr 4, 2024 11:00:47 GMT -5
Heraklion, even though Yuncheng has more interesting temps.
Also, that 18.7C Dec mean for Sipacate must be a mistake.
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Post by massiveshibe on Apr 4, 2024 11:13:56 GMT -5
Yuncheng for being the only decent climate.
Also what the fuck is that december mean in Sipacate?
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Post by Ariete on Apr 4, 2024 11:30:32 GMT -5
I expected to see Altea, Bradford, Kouvola, Castlederg, Maragle Pine Plantation etc.
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Post by psychedamike24 on Apr 4, 2024 12:59:15 GMT -5
Sipacate is a wonderful climate. Interesting that all the cradles of civilization are in relatively warm climates. I wonder what this says about the cold. While this is slightly different from the scope of the OP, independent centers of origin for agriculture are generally more likely to be in warmer parts of the world where there are more native plant species that can be easily domesticated. If we were going the "independent center of origin for agriculture" route, I would've also added Shanghai or Wuhan (rice in southern China), Addis Abeba (teff), and wherever else in the Sahel and West Africa best correspond to sorghum and yam domestication. |
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Post by Steelernation on Apr 4, 2024 13:08:32 GMT -5
Yuncheng, they all suck though
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Post by Beercules on Apr 4, 2024 15:18:38 GMT -5
Multan. Yum
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Post by arcleov2 on Apr 4, 2024 15:43:03 GMT -5
Heraklion for sure, it has decent temps and the precip is more adequate than most of these despite being semi-arid.
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Post by Metsfan257 on Apr 4, 2024 21:55:46 GMT -5
Heraklion is the best of this bunch for the relatively rainy winters and good temps.
This list proves humans are naturally more adapted to heat than cold. No cold climates on this list at all. We're best suited to the subtropics, and this list would agree.
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Post by ShaheenHassan on Apr 5, 2024 0:09:21 GMT -5
Sipacate.
Other than Sipacate, all the cradles of civilization have semi-arid to arid climates.
This reminds me of a theory I once read that civilization started in rivers passing through arid regions, because the lack of other sources of water forces people to live near rivers. And when you have a high population in a small area a complex society develops, so you need laws and rulers to govern them and you get civilization.
In humid regions, people can survive away from river valleys, so you don't get a population density enough to develop a complex society.
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Post by CRISPR on Apr 5, 2024 4:40:59 GMT -5
Yuncheng, but I prefer warm over cool climates in general. Most here are just too arid
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Post by cawfeefan on Apr 5, 2024 4:51:30 GMT -5
Heraklion, decent temps and not too arid
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Post by Ethereal on Apr 6, 2024 1:31:37 GMT -5
Sipacate. Other than Sipacate, all the cradles of civilization have semi-arid to arid climates. This reminds me of a theory I once read that civilization started in rivers passing through arid regions, because the lack of other sources of water forces people to live near rivers. And when you have a high population in a small area a complex society develops, so you need laws and rulers to govern them and you get civilization.In humid regions, people can survive away from river valleys, so you don't get a population density enough to develop a complex society.That's interesting. Haven't heard it before. Good observation. |
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