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Post by Ariete on May 30, 2018 6:19:59 GMT -5
Lund seems to save Sweden a lot 😄
Surprised Russia don't get any mentions
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Post by knot on May 30, 2018 6:20:58 GMT -5
Lund seems to save Sweden a lot 😄 Surprised Russia don't get any mentions Russia's in Asia, I'm afraid.
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Post by Giorbanguly on May 30, 2018 11:51:24 GMT -5
Lund seems to save Sweden a lot 😄 Surprised Russia don't get any mentions Cause only countries entirely in Europe count. Otherwise yeah, Russia would be in the honorable mentions. What saves Russia tho are the climates like Krasnodar, Sochi, and Astrakhan. South of 47N, Russia ain't bad at all
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Post by aabc123 on Jun 8, 2018 7:21:34 GMT -5
The three worst are Norway, Sweden, Finland. Russia has the harshest climates but as it is that big it feels more like a continent and thus I will not rate it here. But if the subjects of Russia were independent countries that list would be Norway, Sweden and Republic of Komi 3. Latvia:
Latvia has few widely reported weather stations but those they have are no warmer than Estonia, in spite of being farther south. That is actually true. At least in summer. I have noticed that eg Riga gets usually less above 20c days than Võru. It is because of it is more oceanic. As for Estonia being a shithole- that is your opinion. I'd like to point out that there is a difference between northern/north-western/western half and southern/eastern part of Estonia. In spring Tallinn area is about 10 days behind compared to my area. So all Estonia does not have very same conditions. I thankfully live in my place.
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Post by P London on Jun 8, 2018 10:32:55 GMT -5
When I went to brussels it was freezing at night. Cold I rarely experiencein Lundun.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 10:45:51 GMT -5
The three worst are Norway, Sweden, Finland. Russia has the harshest climates but as it is that big it feels more like a continent and thus I will not rate it here. But if the subjects of Russia were independent countries that list would be Norway, Sweden and Republic of Komi 3. Latvia:
Latvia has few widely reported weather stations but those they have are no warmer than Estonia, in spite of being farther south. That is actually true. At least in summer. I have noticed that eg Riga gets usually less above 20c days than Võru. It is because of it is more oceanic. As for Estonia being a shithole- that is your opinion. I'd like to point out that there is a difference between northern/north-western/western half and southern/eastern part of Estonia. In spring Tallinn area is about 10 days behind compared to my area. So all Estonia does not have very same conditions. I thankfully live in my place. what about iceland? the balt states are colder than s-scandinavia. i don't think it's a bad thing btw. just a fact.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 11:14:56 GMT -5
Finland, Sweden, Norway have shocking climates, closely followed by Denmark.
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Post by Moron on Jun 8, 2018 11:23:17 GMT -5
Denmark, netherlands, norway
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 11:24:54 GMT -5
Is this just mainland Europe? Surprised by how few mentions UK and Ireland are getting.
If not I'd say Ireland, Norway and Finland. Southern Finland ain't too bad, but rating the country as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 11:32:59 GMT -5
Is this just mainland Europe? Surprised by how few mentions UK and Ireland are getting. If not I'd say Ireland, Norway and Finland. Southern Finland ain't too bad, but rating the country as a whole. If you included all of Europe, then Iceland and Ireland are up there too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 11:37:12 GMT -5
Is this just mainland Europe? Surprised by how few mentions UK and Ireland are getting. If not I'd say Ireland, Norway and Finland. Southern Finland ain't too bad, but rating the country as a whole. If you included all of Europe, then Iceland and Ireland are up there too. Yeah, replace Finland with Iceland and you get my answer.
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Post by shalop on Jun 9, 2018 13:48:19 GMT -5
I'd say Greece, Spain, and Portugal.
Italy would be on there too if those bigass mountains in the northern part (as well as the smaller ones in the middle part) of the country didn't save it.
Although, those countries do have some barely tolerable places, like Segovia or Florina.
The best climates, on the other hand, are to be found in Russia or northern Scandinavia. Cities like Oulu, Ufa, Murmansk.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 13:54:23 GMT -5
Since it's mainland I'll say Norway, Finland, and Denmark.
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Post by aabc123 on Jun 10, 2018 12:42:12 GMT -5
The three worst are Norway, Sweden, Finland. Russia has the harshest climates but as it is that big it feels more like a continent and thus I will not rate it here. But if the subjects of Russia were independent countries that list would be Norway, Sweden and Republic of Komi 3. Latvia:
Latvia has few widely reported weather stations but those they have are no warmer than Estonia, in spite of being farther south. That is actually true. At least in summer. I have noticed that eg Riga gets usually less above 20c days than Võru. It is because of it is more oceanic. As for Estonia being a shithole- that is your opinion. I'd like to point out that there is a difference between northern/north-western/western half and southern/eastern part of Estonia. In spring Tallinn area is about 10 days behind compared to my area. So all Estonia does not have very same conditions. I thankfully live in my place. what about iceland? the balt states are colder than s-scandinavia. i don't think it's a bad thing btw. just a fact. Iceland- that is not in mainland Europe. Where is your Scandinavian climate's superiority prejudice coming from, I wonder. How Baltic states "are colder" than Scandinavia? Your wikipedia weather boxes are using in wikipedia averages from 2000-14 when it was warmer than 81-10. Overall, Estonian wikipedicists rather want to show off their climate and everything more boreal than is, maybe thay want to be "more nordic" in that way. Your stations are located in the hearts of cities- uhi. You just compare Gothenburg Landvetter wit h the city. Here, and I believe in Latvia and Lithuania the stations are located in countryside. Eg the so called "Tartu" station is in fact 20 km from city, in a village and ovbiously there is cooler than in downtown. Do baltic states have colder winters? If they have it does not necessarily mean they "are colder" in the rest of year. They say Estonia eg has been the world's northernmost area what has been able to grow grain for export. Not talking about for it's own needs. Grain even was the main export article of Livonia (ie two northern Baltic states) in Medieval times. I wonder how could they do it if the climate was that bad as you say.
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Post by Ariete on Jun 12, 2018 3:38:05 GMT -5
Too bad it's mainland Europe. Here's a weatherbox I did once. A sequence of individual months in Dublin just to show how spastic the climate is:
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Post by Babu on Jun 13, 2018 6:46:37 GMT -5
what about iceland? the balt states are colder than s-scandinavia. i don't think it's a bad thing btw. just a fact. Iceland- that is not in mainland Europe. Where is your Scandinavian climate's superiority prejudice coming from, I wonder. How Baltic states "are colder" than Scandinavia? Your wikipedia weather boxes are using in wikipedia averages from 2000-14 when it was warmer than 81-10. Overall, Estonian wikipedicists rather want to show off their climate and everything more boreal than is, maybe thay want to be "more nordic" in that way. Your stations are located in the hearts of cities- uhi. You just compare Gothenburg Landvetter wit h the city. Here, and I believe in Latvia and Lithuania the stations are located in countryside. Eg the so called "Tartu" station is in fact 20 km from city, in a village and ovbiously there is cooler than in downtown. Do baltic states have colder winters? If they have it does not necessarily mean they "are colder" in the rest of year. They say Estonia eg has been the world's northernmost area what has been able to grow grain for export. Not talking about for it's own needs. Grain even was the main export article of Livonia (ie two northern Baltic states) in Medieval times. I wonder how could they do it if the climate was that bad as you say. Gothenburg's wiki box is 81-10 as well as Stockholm's and Uppsala's, and Lund is 91-17. And Kronan is a cold lover and would rather live in Umeå than anywhere in Estonia so don't even try accusing him of having a Sweden bias when he says Estonia is colder. Also, the medieval times were a very warm period.
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Post by aabc123 on Jun 13, 2018 15:06:58 GMT -5
Iceland- that is not in mainland Europe. Where is your Scandinavian climate's superiority prejudice coming from, I wonder. How Baltic states "are colder" than Scandinavia? Your wikipedia weather boxes are using in wikipedia averages from 2000-14 when it was warmer than 81-10. Overall, Estonian wikipedicists rather want to show off their climate and everything more boreal than is, maybe thay want to be "more nordic" in that way. Your stations are located in the hearts of cities- uhi. You just compare Gothenburg Landvetter wit h the city. Here, and I believe in Latvia and Lithuania the stations are located in countryside. Eg the so called "Tartu" station is in fact 20 km from city, in a village and ovbiously there is cooler than in downtown. Do baltic states have colder winters? If they have it does not necessarily mean they "are colder" in the rest of year. They say Estonia eg has been the world's northernmost area what has been able to grow grain for export. Not talking about for it's own needs. Grain even was the main export article of Livonia (ie two northern Baltic states) in Medieval times. I wonder how could they do it if the climate was that bad as you say. Gothenburg's wiki box is 81-10 as well as Stockholm's and Uppsala's, and Lund is 91-17. And Kronan is a cold lover and would rather live in Umeå than anywhere in Estonia so don't even try accusing him of having a Sweden bias when he says Estonia is colder. Also, the medieval times were a very warm period. Yes, the climate/temperature has been different in different times, sometimes warmer, sometimes colder. Exporting - it was not so only in Medieval ages. 17th century, afaik was cold here and Estonian and Livonian provinces were still called "the granary of Swedish kingdom" because they grew grain for the Sweden as well. In Medieval times grain from here went to Netherlands and Northern Germany. More recently, 1960-90 eg was also cold and then we were a " vegetable garden " and overall "a farm" for St Petersburg (Leningrad back then), Novgorod region etc Russian areas. State farms and as well private persons. Our family, our neighbours as well grew cabbages and sugar beet, cauliflower. In autumn my father with the neighbour sold out the stuff in Leningrad and earned quite well. I had to help the parents and remember those vegetable works - planting, weeding, watering, harvesting what I had to do back then as well.
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Post by Babu on Jun 13, 2018 15:33:23 GMT -5
Gothenburg's wiki box is 81-10 as well as Stockholm's and Uppsala's, and Lund is 91-17. And Kronan is a cold lover and would rather live in Umeå than anywhere in Estonia so don't even try accusing him of having a Sweden bias when he says Estonia is colder. Also, the medieval times were a very warm period. Yes, the climate/temperature has been different in different times, sometimes warmer, sometimes colder. Exporting - it was not so only in Medieval ages. 17th century, afaik was cold here and Estonian and Livonian provinces were still called "the granary of Swedish kingdom" because they grew grain for the Sweden as well. In Medieval times grain from here went to Netherlands and Northern Germany. More recently, 1960-90 eg was also cold and then we were a " vegetable garden " and overall "a farm" for St Petersburg (Leningrad back then), Novgorod region etc Russian areas. State farms and as well private persons. Our family, our neighbours as well grew cabbages and sugar beet, cauliflower. In autumn my father with the neighbour sold out the stuff in Leningrad and earned quite well. I had to help the parents and remember those vegetable works - planting, weeding, watering, harvesting what I had to do back then as well. Yeah, and Northern Sweden is the major exporter of spruce here. Doesn't mean it's warm there.
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Post by Ariete on Jun 13, 2018 16:19:16 GMT -5
Not a single piece of crop would be grown anywhere in Europe if it wasn't for heavy agricultural subsidies. That's a fact.
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Post by alex992 on Jun 14, 2018 16:12:04 GMT -5
Finland, Sweden, Norway have shocking climates, closely followed by Denmark. "Shocking" climates? They're all quite mild for their latitude. Don't see what's so "shocking" about any Scandinavian climate.
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