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Post by Giorbanguly on Jun 27, 2020 21:19:28 GMT -5
Bayern win the league by 13 points again
How anyone can find Bundesiga interesting is beyond me. The same team is guaranteed to win by 10-15 points pretty much every year
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Post by Strewthless on Jun 27, 2020 21:45:57 GMT -5
Bayern win the league by 13 points again How anyone can find Bundesiga interesting is beyond me. The same team is guaranteed to win by 10-15 points pretty much every year Think a lot watch rooting for Dortmund, but they always fall short. Then Bayern buy their best players and they're back to square one. |
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Post by Ariete on Jun 28, 2020 6:25:52 GMT -5
Well, the last round had some good drama. Werder Bremen needed a win to avoid direct relegation, and Fortuna Düsseldorf needed to lose. Bremen won 6-1, and Fortuna lost 0-3. Bielefeld won the 2nd league, but today it will be decided if Hamburg or Heidenheim get 2nd direct promotion spot. I hope Heidenheim gets it, so we will see a promotion playoff between arch rivals Bremen and Hamburg.
edit: if Stuttgart doesn't lose it will get the 2nd promotion spot. I thought I forgot something. Heidenheim and HSV will then decide the playoff spot.
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Post by rpvan on Jun 28, 2020 17:53:13 GMT -5
Congrats to Liverpool on winning the league. Well deserved and long awaited.
As an arsenal fan, hopefully Arteta can guide the team on a similar course as Klopp did with Liverpool so we can start challenging for the title once again in a few years.
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Post by rpvan on Jun 28, 2020 17:58:09 GMT -5
Bayern win the league by 13 points again How anyone can find Bundesiga interesting is beyond me. The same team is guaranteed to win by 10-15 points pretty much every year Dortmund came close to starting a dynasty earlier this decade but most of their best players were quickly picked up by Bayern and Klopp left a few years after. They've basically been stuck in limbo ever since. I remember the days when the Bundesliga was (arguably) the most competitive league in the world during the 2000s. Teams like Bremen, Leverkusen, Wolfsburg, Schalke and Stuttgart would regularly be competing for the title alongside Bayern. |
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Post by Strewthless on Jun 28, 2020 18:08:17 GMT -5
Congrats to Liverpool on winning the league. Well deserved and long awaited. As an arsenal fan, hopefully Arteta can guide the team on a similar course as Klopp did with Liverpool so we can start challenging for the title once again in a few years. Arteta giving contract extensions to the likes of David Luiz suggests to me that the club lacks the ambition to push towards a title challenge. Worrying times for Arsenal. |
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Post by rpvan on Jun 28, 2020 18:25:23 GMT -5
Congrats to Liverpool on winning the league. Well deserved and long awaited. As an arsenal fan, hopefully Arteta can guide the team on a similar course as Klopp did with Liverpool so we can start challenging for the title once again in a few years. Arteta giving contract extensions to the likes of David Luiz suggests to me that the club lacks the ambition to push towards a title challenge. Worrying times for Arsenal. Yeah, that one didn't make sense but Arteta needs time to implement his philosophy onto the squad and a few transfer windows to bring in suitable players that will fit the type of system he wants to play. I'm not a fan of firing a manager after just a few months on the job so I hope they allow him at least two or three seasons at the helm. If there's no sign of improvements by then, upper management will have to start looking for a new manager. |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Jun 28, 2020 19:34:11 GMT -5
Not a fan of the whole “clubs hiring old legends as managers” thing
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Post by rpvan on Jun 28, 2020 20:24:28 GMT -5
^ It's obviously a huge gamble, especially considering it's usually their first job post retirement. Can't deny it has given the football world some world class managers though...look at Guardiola with Barca, and now it looks like Lampard will be a hit at Chelsea. Time will tell if solskjær or arteta can achieve some pedigree as managers with their former clubs.
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Post by Giorbanguly on Jun 28, 2020 21:09:31 GMT -5
Makes sense if the manager has had some experience managing lower clubs before. But just pulling up an old club legend right after they retire is a bit silly
Just because someone is a great player does not mean they will make a great manager
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Post by Moron on Jun 28, 2020 21:14:34 GMT -5
At least from what I've seen in sports. The best ex-player coaches are the quieter, hardworking defenders.
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Post by Strewthless on Jun 29, 2020 0:59:00 GMT -5
Makes sense if the manager has had some experience managing lower clubs before. But just pulling up an old club legend right after they retire is a bit silly Just because someone is a great player does not mean they will make a great manager Somebody needs to tell this to Man United supporters. Very hesitant to criticise Ole, even though he's clearly out of his depth. |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Jun 29, 2020 2:16:38 GMT -5
Makes sense if the manager has had some experience managing lower clubs before. But just pulling up an old club legend right after they retire is a bit silly Just because someone is a great player does not mean they will make a great manager Somebody needs to tell this to Man United supporters. Very hesitant to criticise Ole, even though he's clearly out of his depth. He hasn’t been THAT bad though. Not ideal, but certainly an improvement over Moyes. Though yeah, I’d rather have a manager like Pocchetino or Marcelino |
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Post by Strewthless on Jun 29, 2020 14:32:38 GMT -5
Somebody needs to tell this to Man United supporters. Very hesitant to criticise Ole, even though he's clearly out of his depth. He hasn’t been THAT bad though. Not ideal, but certainly an improvement over Moyes. Is that where the bar's set these days?  |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Jun 30, 2020 19:20:25 GMT -5
He hasn’t been THAT bad though. Not ideal, but certainly an improvement over Moyes. Is that where the bar's set these days? Umm yeah. Have you seen Man United under LVG?its been anemic except for maybe the first two years under Jose Bruno Fernandes has been a revelation so far! Really seems to improve the attack |
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Post by Strewthless on Jun 30, 2020 19:29:35 GMT -5
Is that where the bar's set these days? Umm yeah. Have you seen Man United under LVG?its been anemic except for maybe the first two years under Jose Bruno Fernandes has been a revelation so far! Really seems to improve the attack It's a results-based business. LVG qualified for the Champions League and won a trophy. If Ole had done that they'd already be building statues of him around Old Trafford. |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Jun 30, 2020 20:54:13 GMT -5
Umm yeah. Have you seen Man United under LVG?its been anemic except for maybe the first two years under Jose Bruno Fernandes has been a revelation so far! Really seems to improve the attack It's a results-based business. LVG qualified for the Champions League and won a trophy. If Ole had done that they'd already be building statues of him around Old Trafford. LVG was one year removed from Fergie’s team. Ole inherited a much bigger mess not that Ole is the right fit for Manchester United, but he’s not worse than Moyes or LVG |
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Post by Strewthless on Jul 1, 2020 1:18:07 GMT -5
It's a results-based business. LVG qualified for the Champions League and won a trophy. If Ole had done that they'd already be building statues of him around Old Trafford. LVG was one year removed from Fergie’s team. Ole inherited a much bigger mess not that Ole is the right fit for Manchester United, but he’s not worse than Moyes or LVG The team inherited from Fergie wasn't all it's cracked up to be. Full of aging players and in need of a complete rebuild. People talk about that fact that they won the title in 2013, but that was the last Ferguson managed to squeeze out of a squad that was coming to the end of its life cycle, and with all of the rival teams reemerging with much stronger squads. He knew which way the wind was blowing, hence his retirement. Anyway, my point is that United fans are going way easier on Ole than on previous managers because he's a club legend. |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Jul 1, 2020 19:30:27 GMT -5
I guess. You have to admit that football under Ole is a bit more pleasant on the eye than under LVG or Moyes. Moyes was endless crosses. LVG was sideways passes in the middle of the field
LVG’s tactics were great against the other top sides
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Post by Strewthless on Jul 3, 2020 15:08:37 GMT -5
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