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Post by Lommaren on Oct 3, 2017 17:02:33 GMT -5
Nykoping would easily beat my location for those who like seasonality, but for someone who dislikes cold Nykoping would surely lose. It's colder than Chester during 9 months of the year, and when it does have the warmth advantage it's only by a narrow margin, barely noticeable. Not to mention that it struggles to generate any reasonable warmth during the shoulder seasons. The difference for me is that Nyköping is very capable of 25-26C avg high summer months, whereas that's impossible north of Cambridge, right?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 17:03:14 GMT -5
Nykoping would easily beat my location for those who like seasonality, but for someone who dislikes cold Nykopping would surely lose. It's colder than Chester during 9 months of the year, and when it does have the warmth advantage it's only by a very narrow margin. Barely noticeable. I think one of Nyköping's biggest advantages is the 1900+ hours of sunshine... The climate box is incomplete so I didn't know the sunshine stats. I went by Stockholm which has about 1800, probably a 300 hour advantage. A big plus. |
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Post by Lommaren on Oct 3, 2017 17:04:27 GMT -5
No chance we have 1900 hours of sunshine here. It feels like gloomville central from September to February  My honest guess is 1770-1780 something. |
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Post by Babu on Oct 3, 2017 17:19:56 GMT -5
No chance we have 1900 hours of sunshine here. It feels like gloomville central from September to February My honest guess is 1770-1780 something. You're very close to the coast. The entire east coast of Sweden easily reaches 1900h. At these latitudes, clouds from September to February matter very little for annual sunshine totals And Razza, indeed Nyköping has similar sunshine levels as Stockholm, but Stockholm's climate box uses the 1961-1990 period from which all stations in Sweden have seen pretty much a 5-10% increase. |
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Post by Lommaren on Oct 3, 2017 17:25:05 GMT -5
Oxelösund is definitely sunnier than here in the hinterland Nyköping could be a lot worse though. In the rural areas to the north, I'd guess there may be 50 hours less. You're probably right though, it's quite possible it's edged between 1800 to 1900, but it certainly doesn't feel that way when living here! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 17:34:49 GMT -5
Nykoping would easily beat my location for those who like seasonality, but for someone who dislikes cold Nykoping would surely lose. It's colder than Chester during 9 months of the year, and when it does have the warmth advantage it's only by a narrow margin, barely noticeable. Not to mention that it struggles to generate any reasonable warmth during the shoulder seasons. The difference for me is that Nyköping is very capable of 25-26C avg high summer months, whereas that's impossible north of Cambridge, right? July 2006 had an aberage high of 26. Whereas Nykoping is incapable of Septembers such as this from last year, which wasn't even record breaking.  Not to mention that we are capable of temperatures in the mid-high 20's in October, albeit rare. But let's not igmore tje fact that your typical winters would easily be recording breaking frosty misery here |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 17:41:30 GMT -5
Nykoping would easily beat my location for those who like seasonality, but for someone who dislikes cold Nykoping would surely lose. It's colder than Chester during 9 months of the year, and when it does have the warmth advantage it's only by a narrow margin, barely noticeable. Not to mention that it struggles to generate any reasonable warmth during the shoulder seasons. The difference for me is that Nyköping is very capable of 25-26C avg high summer months, whereas that's impossible north of Cambridge, right? I think July 2006 had some northern areas see an average high of 25°C+. en.tutiempo.net/climate/07-2006/ws-32660.htmlThat may be the only month it's happened though. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 17:43:30 GMT -5
The difference for me is that Nyköping is very capable of 25-26C avg high summer months, whereas that's impossible north of Cambridge, right? I think July 2006 had some northern areas see an average high of 25°C+. en.tutiempo.net/climate/07-2006/ws-32660.htmlThat may be the only month it's happened though. How about 2003? That was also a hot summer. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 17:44:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 17:46:13 GMT -5
2003 strikes me as a year that as more notable for record high temps rather than sustained heat.
Btw, how reliable is Tutiempo? I've seen a lot of people criticise it.
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Post by Lommaren on Oct 3, 2017 17:46:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 17:51:02 GMT -5
Shame you don't live in Norrkoping, which is much more urbanised than your actual location |
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Post by Babu on Oct 4, 2017 2:39:01 GMT -5
Shame you don't live in Norrkoping, which is much more urbanised than your actual location And has less of a seasonal lag and is generally cooler in September means-wise. |
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Post by Lommaren on Oct 4, 2017 2:40:06 GMT -5
Shame you don't live in Norrkoping, which is much more urbanised than your actual location ... and is farther from the open sea which affects September lows badly |
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Post by Ariete on Oct 4, 2017 5:49:50 GMT -5
For the battle, in this case it isn't too hard. If it was Sweden vs London, Portsmouth, Cambridge, Ipswich etc I would've went with England. I thought you'd hate Englands climate and rate Sweden pretty high considering you want cold winters and give Turku an A. True, but 3 months of extra warmth in the shoulder seasons trumps cold winters. "Real" snowy winters are a big advantage, but warmth is a necessity. |
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Post by Babu on Oct 4, 2017 5:59:21 GMT -5
I thought you'd hate Englands climate and rate Sweden pretty high considering you want cold winters and give Turku an A. True, but 3 months of extra warmth in the shoulder seasons trumps cold winters. "Real" snowy winters are a big advantage, but warmth is a necessity. Turku is an A, and Uppsala is even better. Does that mean mid-to-northern England is A+? |
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Post by Lommaren on Oct 4, 2017 6:00:30 GMT -5
Turku is an A, and Uppsala is even better. Does that mean mid-to-northern England is A+? Finns aren't into complaining about the weather it seems That applies only to the Western Baltic region lol. Here in Sweden we always complain no matter what  |
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Post by Ariete on Oct 4, 2017 6:04:50 GMT -5
True, but 3 months of extra warmth in the shoulder seasons trumps cold winters. "Real" snowy winters are a big advantage, but warmth is a necessity. Turku is an A, and Uppsala is even better. Does that mean mid-to-northern England is A+? What? Turku is a C-!  This is an A+ climate: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Arbor,_Michigan#Climate |
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Post by Lommaren on Oct 4, 2017 6:09:02 GMT -5
How do these climates rank on your A-scale? Milwaukee Toronto Sandusky, OH Rochester, NY Portland, ME Any A+ among those?  I'd expect you've seen them all |
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Post by Babu on Oct 4, 2017 6:15:27 GMT -5
Turku is an A, and Uppsala is even better. Does that mean mid-to-northern England is A+? What? Turku is a C-! This is an A+ climate: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Arbor,_Michigan#Climate Oh, I thought I'd seen you rate Turku an A- |
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Okay, in terms of mean it was 0.4C lower due to cooler lows but still 0.7C warmer during daytime, and let me assure you: Nyköping is not 0.7C below Norrköping in any month, ever 
I'd expect you've seen them all