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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Feb 13, 2020 10:14:49 GMT -5
And these indices, which largely affect or determine weather and climate, have no relationship to CO2 concentration. *whistles*
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Post by Hiromant on Feb 18, 2020 3:39:30 GMT -5
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Post by nei on Feb 18, 2020 8:35:25 GMT -5
And these indices, which largely affect or determine weather and climate, have no relationship to CO2 concentration. *whistles* and a couple years we had an extremely negative arctic oscillation allowing arctic to spill into the midlatitudes; making some parts of the northern hemisphere extremely cold a. Net global temperature wasn't cold. Those indices mostly just shift heat around the globe (pacific indices are an exception, but they move heat from ocean to atmosphere and back) and bounce back and forth year to year. Over decades, they're not changing the averages nor changing the climate. Just an oscillation superimposed on a warming trend.
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Post by Hiromant on Feb 19, 2020 3:36:59 GMT -5
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Post by Hiromant on Apr 7, 2020 1:49:38 GMT -5
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Post by knot on Apr 7, 2020 2:05:44 GMT -5
^Posting the graphs from Principia-Scientific, just in case the warmists don't even bother to click the link:
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Post by srfoskey on Apr 7, 2020 20:20:16 GMT -5
2. There's a seasonal cycle to CO2. It increases every year from October-April as Northern Hemisphere vegetation (where most of the planet's vegetation is) goes dormant. Then it decreases again from May-September. 3. Human activity is still producing CO2 from powerplants and some road traffic and such.
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Post by Hiromant on Apr 8, 2020 1:03:33 GMT -5
2. There's a seasonal cycle to CO2. It increases every year from October-April as Northern Hemisphere vegetation (where most of the planet's vegetation is) goes dormant. Then it decreases again from May-September. 3. Human activity is still producing CO2 from powerplants and some road traffic and such. 1. Oh I'm sure it has. After all, climate change (used to be global warming but they had to change the name because it clearly wasn't happening) can be anything you want it to be if you produce enough hot air. The hard data says that large swathes of a planet that's supposed to have been catastrophically warming for decades now are simply not warming. 2-3. I'm aware of the seasonality and you're reaching. The ongoing unprecedented shutdown of industrial civilization is every eco-fascist's dream and it's having zero effect on CO 2 levels.
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Post by knot on Apr 8, 2020 3:47:02 GMT -5
Here's what I got from Srfoskey's papers—variation driven chiefly by the AMO:
I did manage to locate a piece regarding the 1940–1975 North Atlantic cooling trend, with a marked causation relationship having been assigned to aerosols—both anthropogenic and volcanic. But alas, it does not refer to the more recent cooling trend attested to by Principia-Scientific; not to mention that modelling inaccuracies and/or limitations are noted at the end of the first quote:
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on May 26, 2020 0:09:25 GMT -5
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Post by Ariete on May 26, 2020 3:48:15 GMT -5
What does this have to do with climate change?
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Post by knot on May 26, 2020 4:08:02 GMT -5
^Gotta agree with you there. Some Icelandic snowfall is hardly related to CC discussion, in the slightest.
That should've been posted in the Snow Thread.
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Post by Ariete on May 26, 2020 10:13:45 GMT -5
AGW kills.
People around the world are already dying from the climate crisis, and yet all too often, official death records do not reflect the impact of these large-scale environmental catastrophes.
According to a team of Australian health experts, heat is the most dominant risk posed by climate change in the country. If the world's emissions remain the same, by 2080 Australian cities could see at least four times the number of deaths from increasing temperatures alone.
"Climate change is a killer, but we don't acknowledge it on death certificates," says physician Arnagretta Hunter from the Australian National University.
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Post by knot on May 26, 2020 15:51:03 GMT -5
AGW kills.
People around the world are already dying from the climate crisis, and yet all too often, official death records do not reflect the impact of these large-scale environmental catastrophes.
According to a team of Australian health experts, heat is the most dominant risk posed by climate change in the country. If the world's emissions remain the same, by 2080 Australian cities could see at least four times the number of deaths from increasing temperatures alone.
"Climate change is a killer, but we don't acknowledge it on death certificates," says physician Arnagretta Hunter from the Australian National University.
That is the biggest, fattest load of bullshit I have ever laid gaze upon. Nothing but assumptions + modelling. Once heatwaves reach the magnitude they did during the 1877–1878 El Nino, call me back babe. Because as of now, even the 1939 heatwave surpasses any recent one; Dec 2019 + Jan 2020 was only a record in places like Sydney and Canberra, i.e. leeward of the ranges (thus due to foehn winds); windward NSW did not even come close to 1939, apart from stations which do not go that far back…let alone the much hotter Feb 1877 and Jan 1878, both of which make Jan 1939 look petty by comparison. Also, places like the NT have very little climate data today, let alone historical climate data. So it's only wise to use rural sites (for to avoid UHI issues) in NSW, VIC, SA, Southern WA, and Southern QLD—as those are the states/regions with the best historical climatology.
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Post by Beercules on May 26, 2020 16:13:50 GMT -5
"Australian National University". Enough said
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on May 26, 2020 17:55:50 GMT -5
^Gotta agree with you there. Some Icelandic snowfall is hardly related to CC discussion, in the slightest. That should've been posted in the Snow Thread. I must disagree. Yes, it is snow. But my reasoning for posting here, is that it was a very anomalous snowfall, for any part of the year. And this comes after a very active and snowy winter for Iceland. Times are a changin'!
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Post by Ariete on May 26, 2020 18:51:45 GMT -5
I must disagree. Yes, it is snow. But my reasoning for posting here, is that it was a very anomalous snowfall, for any part of the year. And this comes after a very active and snowy winter for Iceland. Times are a changin'!
This is weather and not climate. So snow thread it should be in. You should know the different between weather and climate, right?
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on May 26, 2020 19:19:09 GMT -5
I must disagree. Yes, it is snow. But my reasoning for posting here, is that it was a very anomalous snowfall, for any part of the year. And this comes after a very active and snowy winter for Iceland. Times are a changin'!
This is weather and not climate. So snow thread it should be in. You should know the different between weather and climate, right?
Sure. It's not that huge of a deal though...? You're being a bit of a shithead here Ariete. This isn't CD.
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Post by knot on May 26, 2020 19:42:35 GMT -5
Sure. It's not that huge of a deal though...? You're being a bit of a shithead here Ariete. This isn't CD. You're making a real goof out of yourself. One snow event has nothing to do with long-term climate trends, in the slightest. I thought you might've known this by now…but I lay in disappointment.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on May 26, 2020 19:56:51 GMT -5
Sure. It's not that huge of a deal though...? You're being a bit of a shithead here Ariete. This isn't CD. You're making a real goof out of yourself. One snow event has nothing to do with long-term climate trends, in the slightest. I thought you might've known this by now…but I lay in disappointment. Alright alright. I did wrong. I shall hang my head in shame for the next 838 weeks.
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