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Post by rpvan on Jun 14, 2022 16:12:07 GMT -5
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Post by AJ1013 on Oct 21, 2022 20:10:36 GMT -5
Sea level rise over the last 25 years in Miami
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Post by lancerman on Oct 29, 2022 15:49:10 GMT -5
Definitely there is a warming trend in *most* places (key word: MOST), however it's not exclusively (or even largely) due to CO2. So I voted for the middle option.
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Post by Ariete on Oct 29, 2022 15:55:38 GMT -5
Definitely there is a warming trend in *most* places (key word: MOST), however it's not exclusively (or even largely) due to CO2. So I voted for the middle option.
So when humans started to produce a lot of excess CO2 just happens to align with rising temperatures?
Look at Venus, its climate is certainly lethal because of the CO2-heavy atmosphere.
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Post by lancerman on Oct 29, 2022 15:57:05 GMT -5
So when humans started to produce a lot of excess CO2 just happens to align with rising temperatures?
Look at Venus, its climate is certainly lethal because of the CO2-heavy atmosphere.
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Post by Ariete on Oct 29, 2022 16:04:09 GMT -5
Yes And don't compare Venus to Earth, whose atmospheric density is extremely far-off!
But there is strong evidence that Venus's climate could or did support life before the runaway greenhouse effect, caused by ever-increasing CO2 levels.
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Post by lancerman on Oct 29, 2022 16:08:22 GMT -5
But there is strong evidence that Venus's climate could or did support life before the runaway greenhouse effect, caused by ever-increasing CO2 levels.
You weren't paying attention - the drastically different atmospheric density and pressure is what sets these two planets apart. Venus is able to have such a runaway effect due to these factors of which our Earth does not even faintly approach. |
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Post by Ariete on Oct 29, 2022 16:17:52 GMT -5
You weren't paying attention - the drastically different atmospheric density and pressure is what sets these two planets apart. Venus is able to have such a runaway effect due to these factors of which our Earth does not even faintly approach.
Despite the different atmospheric density and pressure, our planetary sister became what it is due to...... CO2.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Oct 29, 2022 19:01:53 GMT -5
You weren't paying attention - the drastically different atmospheric density and pressure is what sets these two planets apart. Venus is able to have such a runaway effect due to these factors of which our Earth does not even faintly approach.
Despite the different atmospheric density and pressure, our planetary sister became what it is due to...... CO2.
And Mars' atmosphere is 95% carbon dioxide. And why then is it not like Venus? Because it does not possess an atmospheric pressure or density that can support such characteristics. To simplify things, it makes sense to think of it in terms of distance to the sun. Venus is the closest and Mars is the farthest. You can probably piece the rest of it together. |
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Post by srfoskey on Oct 30, 2022 13:08:29 GMT -5
Despite the different atmospheric density and pressure, our planetary sister became what it is due to...... CO2.
And Mars' atmosphere is 95% carbon dioxide. And why then is it not like Venus? Because it does not possess an atmospheric pressure or density that can support such characteristics. To simplify things, it makes sense to think of it in terms of distance to the sun. Venus is the closest and Mars is the farthest. You can probably piece the rest of it together. Distance from the Sun is a major factor in the temperature of a planet obviously. But the reason Venus is warmer than Mercury is due to increased CO2. Atmospheric pressure only matters in terms of partial pressure of greenhouse gases. Oxygen is not a greenhouse gas, so if you were to change the partial pressure of oxygen in an atmosphere, it would not change the temperature. |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Oct 30, 2022 16:17:04 GMT -5
Here's my two cents on this stupidly partisan topic: climate change is real, humans are causing it, but we shouldn't alter our lifestyles and curb emissions. The economy and our daily conveniences are far more important. Mankind will adapt and innovate, just like we always have.
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Post by lancerman on Oct 31, 2022 3:44:38 GMT -5
Here's my two cents on this stupidly partisan topic: climate change is real, humans are causing it, but we shouldn't alter our lifestyles and curb emissions. The economy and our daily conveniences are far more important. Mankind will adapt and innovate, just like we always have. You see, that there highlighted in bold is where you are wrong. You can sensibly say that Man is partly contributing; but to establish a direct causation, supposedly overriding all other factors? - That is simply madness. Correlation and causation are two very different things! |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Oct 31, 2022 9:34:46 GMT -5
Here's my two cents on this stupidly partisan topic: climate change is real, humans are causing it, but we shouldn't alter our lifestyles and curb emissions. The economy and our daily conveniences are far more important. Mankind will adapt and innovate, just like we always have. You see, that there highlighted in bold is where you are wrong. You can sensibly say that Man is partly contributing; but to establish a direct causation, supposedly overriding all other factors? - That is simply madness. Correlation and causation are two very different things! True, there could be other factors, but humans are one contributor. I don’t really care that much about this issue though, as I said things like the economy and our liberties are far more important. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Oct 31, 2022 11:43:51 GMT -5
You see, that there highlighted in bold is where you are wrong. You can sensibly say that Man is partly contributing; but to establish a direct causation, supposedly overriding all other factors? - That is simply madness. Correlation and causation are two very different things! True, there could be other factors, but humans are one contributor. I don’t really care that much about this issue though, as I said things like the economy and our liberties are far more important. Pretty much. The error in current thinking is that humans can appreciably reverse any changes in climate. Besides destroying entire cities and replacing it with forest/grass to decrease UHI effects, there is nothing we can do that will change anything. It is a pipe dream thinking that going to nEtZerO will do anything other than decreasing human CO2 output...and...um, destroying the global economy and ruining everyone's lives. |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Oct 31, 2022 15:00:09 GMT -5
True, there could be other factors, but humans are one contributor. I don’t really care that much about this issue though, as I said things like the economy and our liberties are far more important. Pretty much. The error in current thinking is that humans can appreciably reverse any changes in climate. Besides destroying entire cities and replacing it with forest/grass to decrease UHI effects, there is nothing we can do that will change anything.It is a pipe dream thinking that going to nEtZerO will do anything other than decreasing human CO2 output...and...um, destroying the global economy and ruining everyone's lives. Or we can further urbanize the world in order to increase UHI so that we can grow more palm trees and have longer growing seasons  |
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Post by lancerman on Oct 31, 2022 16:09:08 GMT -5
Or we can further urbanize the world in order to increase UHI so that we can grow more palm trees and have longer growing seasons Seems odd coming from someone who supposedly likes Mediterranean climates? - Palms are not native to that region, at least to the region wherein your ideal temperatures and rainfall are found (Italy etc.) |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Nov 1, 2022 9:43:36 GMT -5
Or we can further urbanize the world in order to increase UHI so that we can grow more palm trees and have longer growing seasons Seems odd coming from someone who supposedly likes Mediterranean climates? - Palms are not native to that region, at least to the region wherein your ideal temperatures and rainfall are found (Italy etc.) The Mediterranean fan palm is native to Italy and France. Anyway, tons of other palms grow in those regions as well, that are not native but naturalized.
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Post by greysrigging on Nov 24, 2022 4:52:04 GMT -5
Climate Change In Australia - State Of The Climate 2022 Report ( source: Weatherzone )  Australia’s climate is getting warmer and long-term changes are occurring in rainfall, extreme fire weather and tropical cyclone activity across the country, according to a new State of the Climate report published this week. The Bureau of Meteorology and CSIRO release a State of the Climate report every two years. This biennial report takes a deep dive into the latest science on Australia’s changing climate, including research, observations and future projections. You can read the full State of the Climate 2022 report here. But if you don’t have time to pore over the whole report, we have summarised some of the main points below.  Temperature Australia’s climate has warmed by 1.47ºC since 1910. Most of this warming has occurred since 1950 and the last nine years were all warmer than every year between 1910 and 1980.  There has also been an increase in the frequency of extreme daily heat events in Australia. In 2019, there were 41 days where Australia’s mean surface air temperature ranked in the top one percent of historical records. Prior to 2000, the highest number of days per year in the top one percent of historical records was only 14. Rainfall While rainfall in Australia varies a lot from year-to-year, there has been a clear declining trend in cool-season rainfall over large areas of southeastern and southwestern Australia.  By contrast, rainfall has increased over much of northern Australia in recent decades, particularly during the wet season.  Heavy rainfall events are becoming more intense, with the intensity of short-duration (hourly) extreme rainfall events increasing by about 10 percent in some areas over recent decades. Fire Weather Rising temperatures and declining rainfall have both contributed to an increase in extreme fire weather across much of Australia, particularly during summer and spring. There has also been an increase in the length of the fire season in Australia in recent decades.  Snowfall There has been a decline in Australian snow over recent decades. This includes an observed downward trend in the average annual maximum snow depth, the temporal and spatial extent of snow cover, and the overall number of annual snowfall days. |
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Post by massiveshibe on Nov 27, 2022 14:32:17 GMT -5
Bill Gates is making our planet warmer because 5g works more efficiently at high temperatures, allowing him to take over society and initiate a new world order run by George Soros and the Bigfoot, enabling the reptilian billionaires to sacrifice children to the devil and drink the blood of white people.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Apr 22, 2023 21:34:18 GMT -5
The anti climate change squad have some impressive credentials, though:
- one is a drunkard whose expertise is his own defecation, Family Guy and drunken rants. I doubt this person has read a book in a decade or have any knowledge of anything
- the second one is an asocial moron who thinks women shouldn't be able to vote, believes in ancient and current aliens and thinks coffee is the "meth of the government"
- the third one is a peasant who was supposedly home-schooled by his parents. I doubt he was schooled at all, astonished that this serf is literate. neither do I think he has ever left his own country
Awwww, have a medal.  And you are the millennial cry-baby stereotype incarnate of this forum—congratulations! Your religion is failing, buddy; I wouldn't be so confident if I were you.  Strewth! Farken oath!   |
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