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Post by Lommaren on Mar 19, 2019 10:02:08 GMT -5
What would you prefer?
Consider that humidity, precipitation, UV strength et cetera would be equal in both scenarios. For the sake of this thread, both of these scenarios should be in climates that record at least a moderate amount of precipitation during winter.
For me the answer is simple and it's -1/-7. Having experienced Nyköping (the former) for so long, this so often leads to thawing and cold rain rather than snow and even if the snow cover could easily build up for a couple of weeks, it's usually erased very quickly as soon as any wind direction turn occurs. -1/-7 is way more resilient in that regard and keeps the snow there for longer. I've lived in a couple of climates closer to -1/-7 although not all the way there and it was definitely preferable, even though cold snaps got slightly worse.
For a similar climate with the colder average, the very 1°C low two or three days that destroyed the snow, would probably now be -2°C instead and that does make a lot of difference.
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Post by Hiromant on Mar 19, 2019 11:10:22 GMT -5
-1/-7°C, though it's still too warm to prevent frequent and long thaws.
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Post by AJ1013 on Mar 19, 2019 11:14:35 GMT -5
Depends on where. In sweden -1/-7, in somewhere more variable and snowy 1/-4
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 19, 2019 14:07:07 GMT -5
Who knows.
Would they both get the same snowfall?
Would the warmer one get more rain?
How variable are they?
I guess 1/-4 since it’s warmer and there would be more thaws but if it gets a lot of cold rain and little snow or it’s super stable I’d choose the other one.
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Post by Lommaren on Mar 19, 2019 16:15:53 GMT -5
Who knows. Would they both get the same snowfall? Would the warmer one get more rain? How variable are they? I guess 1/-4 since it’s warmer and there would be more thaws but if it gets a lot of cold rain and little snow or it’s super stable I’d choose the other one. Well, ultimately it's up to you and how you imagine those in your head. Since I'm accustomed to a maritime variety, it's -1/-7 all the way, but I think that'd also be the case if I lived in the Midwest.
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 19, 2019 16:56:33 GMT -5
•If everything is the same for both except averages I’d pick 1/-4
However, if the warmer one is stable and the colder one is variable, I’d pick the colder one.
Also, if the warmer one gets a lot of cold rain and the colder one doesn’t, I’d pick the colder one.
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Post by tij on Mar 19, 2019 17:08:09 GMT -5
1/-4 for sure, but feel my true ideal is way more like 7/1 in January. If it gets excessive hazardous freeze-thaw cycles, may be more reluctant to select it though. The -1/-7 place will definitely have that in spring likely though,
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Post by knot on Mar 19, 2019 17:11:22 GMT -5
–4° / 1° C, fucken!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 17:27:03 GMT -5
Both suck so my answer is neither. But 1/-4 if I was absolutely forced to choose. I would prefer low snowfall, good sunshine/sun angle, high relatively humidity, and most importantly, low wind.
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Post by Crunch41 on Mar 20, 2019 21:08:04 GMT -5
-1/-7 easily.
+1/-4 winter months in the midwest will have frequent thaws and half the precipitation will be rain, maybe more than half. The constant freeze-thaw will keep the ground muddy most days. I don't like thaws and bare ground in winter since it's already bare and dead in fall and spring.
-1/-7 will have fewer thaws and more snow and ice. Much better. Even if there was barely any sun strength, still -1/-7.
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Post by Beercules on Mar 21, 2019 3:06:33 GMT -5
May as well be -1/-7 at this point. Less disgusting slush and cold frigid rain. I'd rather have snow and the picturesque scenery and drinking opportunities it provides.
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Post by Speagles84 on Mar 21, 2019 9:34:54 GMT -5
Everyone knows my answer to this
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Post by Giorbanguly on Mar 21, 2019 17:47:02 GMT -5
Both are gross, but I'd choose 1/-4 as the other option probably isn't that dry and sunny either
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Post by alex992 on Mar 21, 2019 18:20:19 GMT -5
-1/-7 for sure, more consistent snow cover, better cold snaps, etc.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Mar 21, 2019 19:05:44 GMT -5
Did not know you were a nancy... What happened to ya matey?!
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Post by Babu on Mar 21, 2019 19:11:04 GMT -5
In Sweden, a 1/-4 place would probably see more sunny -1'C days in an average January than a -1/-7. 1/-4 all the way. Far superior
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Post by knot on Mar 21, 2019 20:04:02 GMT -5
Did not know you were a nancy... What happened to ya matey?! –4° / 1° C is far more likely to yield >100 mm of precipitation, and –4° / 1° C in AU would yield at least >90% snowfall of that total precipitation; snow commonly falls upwards 3° C round here. Cool, wet, stable winters are win-win for me...minimal crop and paddock damage, as well as heavy snowfall and epic squalls.
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Post by Benfxmth on Mar 18, 2020 12:57:49 GMT -5
As much as I hate cold weather I will go with the -1/-7 option, because a higher diurnal range means that it is more likely to be sunny, and there is less disgusting slush and cold frigid rain. I'd rather have snow and the picturesque scenery.
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Post by rozenn on Mar 18, 2020 18:35:01 GMT -5
-1/-7 is about ideal, though 1/-4 isn't bad either.
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Post by trolik on Mar 18, 2020 20:31:14 GMT -5
none
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