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Post by Lommaren on May 27, 2019 17:05:16 GMT -5
Contrary to what knot would like to have you believe, surprise surprise, Thredbo in his beloved Tablelands has significantly warmed in latter years. This is Thredbo for 2002-2018 using the Swedish average timeframe. In fact, it's warmed as much as 0.6°C when 2014-18 are added on and 1969-2001 excluded! Just look at this for comparison (1969-2014) used by the Wikipedia box: This definitely proves that the Tablelands have way more global warming than the old gentleman likes to admit! Anyway, my rating is a D+ Summers are still too rainy and have too cold nights, whereas winters like this are the definition of abysmal no-man's land that I'm sure isn't even safe from getting struck by lightning during thundersnow. Not for me, but lower climates in the Tablelands are way better, no doubts. Still, the main point of this is that the Tablelands sure as hell have warmed!
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Post by tij on May 27, 2019 17:08:44 GMT -5
I decided on a D+, I don't want hard frosts to wreck summer, even if the temps here aren't so severe and some warmth is possible
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Post by Lommaren on May 27, 2019 17:28:53 GMT -5
those summers are too cool for sure but can see decent warmth, maybe a C/C-? Still undecided, given just one vote on the board? It's a tricky one to grade, especially since I can't be too sure about sunshine hours, except that it's above 2,000 hours for sure.
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Post by tij on May 27, 2019 17:38:24 GMT -5
Lommaren yeah, from what antarcticus describes, it seems that summer is really not present there, but it has variability, so it can get warm days, those nights are a lot too cool to really feel like summer though. I really don't want snow or hard freezes or that trash then, the old stats would definitely be a D+ from me. I'm also recalibrating grades, I'd give a lot of places C's that are really more like D's to most people's grading scales relative to their overall preferences if that makes sense, i'm more open to give places D's now, using more of the E grades here for abysmal places. I decided on a D+.
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Post by Steelernation on May 27, 2019 18:00:19 GMT -5
Hard to rate without precipitation days and snowfall but it’s somewhere in the E range.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 18:00:47 GMT -5
I'll give a solid D. Way too cold year-round with cold winters and anemic summers, but it can get worse.
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Post by Lommaren on May 27, 2019 18:15:01 GMT -5
Hard to rate without precipitation days and snowfall but it’s somewhere in the E range. Precipitation days for a roughly similar amount of overall precipitation are available for 1969-2014 inside the spoiler. I don't think it'd be much different. 4-5 fewer days maybe? Snowfall, obviously is a lot, but hard to judge. Definitely somewhat above 100 cm though.
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Post by Lommaren on May 27, 2019 19:39:59 GMT -5
What part of my OP is "alarmism", knot ? It's just simple weather stats. Someone living in Thredbo at 1,380 metres of elevation with moderate summers has less to be concerned about from global warming than someone living right on the coastline of the Pacific islands. All that aside, just like I said previously, the warming there is slower than in the arctic regions, but it's still undeniable that it's warming and at a relatively fast pace in some months.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on May 27, 2019 21:41:21 GMT -5
B+ for this one. I like how the mean max/min are close to the records...
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Post by knot on Dec 27, 2020 18:12:43 GMT -5
First of all, Thredbo Village is on the leeward (eastern) slopes of the Snowy Mountains, and thus receives very different weather patterns to the actual "Tablelands" i.e. the windward, western slopes. Completely different bio-regions.
This thread is a stunning display of not only Lommaren's incompetence, but also his subhumanity; to insist on using that petty 2002–2018 Swedish period…when he could've used 1991–2019 instead!
I'm so glad this possibly-escaped circus monkey, is finally banned. Good riddance 👍🏻
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Post by srfoskey on Dec 27, 2020 21:53:34 GMT -5
Well it looks like the original weatherboxes were deleted, so I can't vote on it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 21:56:58 GMT -5
Well it looks like the original weatherboxes were deleted, so I can't vote on it. For me, a Lommie boteved box is automatically an F regardless of the contents.
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