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Post by knot on Jul 11, 2019 1:02:32 GMT -5
Your Latitudinal Parallel Classification System(s)
Since there's been plentiful discussion about this particular matter throughout the forum, I have established this thread. Here's my take on this situation; first and foremost, let us begin with the most splendorous Angler's Latitudinal Parallel Classification (Southern Hemisphere) system:
I. Equatorial = 0.0°-9.5° S
II. Tropical = 10.0°-23.5° S
III. Subtropical = 24.0°-34.5° S
IV. Lower Mid-Latitudinal = 35.0°-39.5° S
V. Upper Mid-Latitudinal = 40.0°-44.5° S
VI. Subpolar = 45.0°-55.5° S
VII. Outer Polar = 56.0°-69.5° S
VIII. Inner Polar = >70.0°(-90.0°) S
Now, for the Anglers Latitudinal Parallel Classification (Northern Hemisphere) system:
I. Equatorial = 0.0-9.5° N
II. Tropical = 10.0°-23.5° N
III. Subtropical = 24.0°-36.5° N
IV. Lower Mid-Latitudinal = 37.0°-43.5° N
V. Upper Mid-Latitudinal = 44.0°-50.5° N
VI. Subpolar = 51.0°-61.5° N
VII. Outer Polar = 62.0°-75.5° N
VIII. Inner Polar = >76.0°(-90.0°) N
~ The Northern Hemisphere classification system averages 2° greater from the Subtropical and Mid-Latitudinal parallels and, thereafter, 4° to 6° greater owing chiefly to the myriads of anomalously warm climates skewing the average(s) for those parallels—namely, the entirety of Europe, Western Asia Minor, Northern Africa, and the Lower Pacific North American Coastline altogether. Contrarywise, for the Southern Hemisphere, only the leeward South Pacific regional is anomalously warm for its latitude—thereby, yielding a narrower latitudinal range for the Southern Hemisphere.
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Post by Babu on Jul 11, 2019 13:03:32 GMT -5
Equatorial 0-10°, Tropical 0-23.5°, Subtropical 23.5-40° Temperate 40-55°, Subpolar: 55-66.6°, Polar >66.6°
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Post by alex992 on Jul 12, 2019 5:37:09 GMT -5
Equatorial/extremely low latitude: 0 - 11.25 degrees Moderately tropical/very low latitude: 11.25 - 22.5 degrees Tropical grading out into subtropical/moderately low latitude: 22.5 - 33.75 degrees Subtropical grading out into continental/lower mid-latitudes: 33.75 - 45 degrees Upper mid-latitudes, grading out into subpolar towards the end: 45 - 56.25 degrees Moderate high latitude, subpolar grading out into polar: 56.25 - 67.5 degrees Solidly polar/arctic/very high latitude: 67.5 - 78.75 degrees High Arctic/extremely high latitude: 78.75 - 90 degrees
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 7:40:12 GMT -5
Equatorial: 0-7°, tropical non-equatorial: 7-23.5°, subtropical 23.5-35°, temperate 35-50°, subpolar 50-66.5°, polar 66.5-90°
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Post by Moron on Jul 12, 2019 7:59:59 GMT -5
Tropics: 22.3N-22.3S Subtropical/Temperate zones: 66.6N-22.3N and 22.3S-66.6S Polar Regions: 90N-66.6N and 66.6S-90S
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Post by Lommaren on Jul 12, 2019 8:06:34 GMT -5
Baba, Alex and Noodle all said it well, Anglers' assertion that London, Amsterdam and Berlin are subpolar is a bit laugable though.
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Post by Babu on Jul 12, 2019 8:28:14 GMT -5
Baba, Alex and Noodle all said it well, Anglers' assertion that London, Amsterdam and Berlin are subpolar is a bit laugable though. No need to strawman. Me saying Labrador City is temperate is a bit laughable too.
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Post by Lommaren on Jul 12, 2019 8:41:39 GMT -5
No need to strawman. Me saying Labrador City is temperate is a bit laughable too. Well, at least it's far from the pole. Saying Labrador City is on a temperate latitude is a lot more realistic than suggesting that North Dakota with 14°C Septembers or whatever is subpolar.
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Post by Steelernation on Jul 12, 2019 9:31:44 GMT -5
Equatorial: 0-10 Tropical: 10-23 Subtropical: 23-35 Mid latitude: 35-55 Subpolar: 55-66 High latitude: 66-75 Polar: 75+
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Post by knot on Jul 12, 2019 22:02:56 GMT -5
Baba, Alex and Noodle all said it well, Anglers' assertion that London, Amsterdam and Berlin are subpolar is a bit laugable though. Excuse me, kind sir, but haven't I just stated that it's an average? London, Amsterdam, and Berlin are all tremendously ridiculous anomalies for their latitudes. Also, about Noodle's system being more accurate than mine...how should I put this...ouch!
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Post by omegaraptor on Jul 12, 2019 22:08:00 GMT -5
Equatorial: 0-6º Tropical: 6º-ToCº Subtropical: ToCº-34º Lower temperate: 34º-45º Upper temperate: 45º-56º Subarctic: 56º-ACº Arctic: AC-90º
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Post by Babu on Jul 13, 2019 13:25:01 GMT -5
Baba, Alex and Noodle all said it well, Anglers' assertion that London, Amsterdam and Berlin are subpolar is a bit laugable though. Excuse me, kind sir, but haven't I just stated that it's an average? London, Amsterdam, and Berlin are all tremendously ridiculous anomalies for their latitudes. Also, about Noodle's system being more accurate than mine...how should I put this...ouch! Yeah, except that's just bollocks. If you take the population weighed average, subpolar climates probably start around 58'N, and even if you merely look at the geographical average, only like 1-5% of the land area at 51'N is subpolar you doofus. The only parts of the world where you'll find dfc and cfc climates at 51'N is a small part of Eastern Canada and Bering's sea. I mean, I get if you wanna argue that Moosonee is subpolar despite technically being Dfb, but Nur-Sultan in Kazakhstan is hardly subpolar by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post by knot on Jul 13, 2019 18:02:02 GMT -5
Yeah, except that's just bollocks. If you take the population weighed average, subpolar climates probably start around 58'N, and even if you merely look at the geographical average, only like 1-5% of the land area at 51'N is subpolar you doofus. The only parts of the world where you'll find dfc and cfc climates at 51'N is a small part of Eastern Canada and Bering's sea. I mean, I get if you wanna argue that Moosonee is subpolar despite technically being Dfb, but Nur-Sultan in Kazakhstan is hardly subpolar by any stretch of the imagination. And there's your problem.^ We shall always weigh by geography, not population; population-weighing is a futile Boteving tactic. As for your next statement about Dfc and Cfc climates...to put it bluntly, Köppen is an idiotic system. Subpolar climates are those that are cool year-round, not "4 months <10° C means", or whatever poppycock Köppen preached. Sweden is chiefly a subpolar country (apart from the southernmost reaches, such as your beloved Lund), therefore.
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Post by Ariete on Jul 13, 2019 18:03:45 GMT -5
Your Latitudinal Parallel Classification System(s):
1-70N: civilisation 1-90S: irrelevant
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 2:21:56 GMT -5
Generally you need about 7° or less from the equator for something close to a year-round ITCZ-influenced climate, although there are exceptions (both equatorial climates outside the range and non-equatorial climates inside the range). Beyond that I don't feel like setting the midpoint of the temperate category at my latitude is accurate as 1/2 of Earth's surface area is within 30° from the equator and 1/2 of the Earth's land area is within ~33° from the equator. The higher latitudes above 50° on either side might not have subpolar vegetation but are subpolar in terms of latitude.
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