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Post by Lommaren on Sept 29, 2017 6:10:22 GMT -5
Even though winters are around -2.3C or something in January during the past 16 years, I'd still say this one is humid continental for the simple reason that the individual coldest month still averages about -4C here, that is if December, January and February each winter are taken into account. Just like Turku and Talllinn the sea affects this one a lot, but there's enough land to travel over for westerlies for cold snaps to easily occur. So, what about you? Define your own place and don't feel bound by Köppen, Trewartha or anything  I've come to the realization that the individual warmest and coldest months during a season are more fitting definitions than just what January or July ends up being on average. Our warmest month here during a calendar year is therefore almost 19C in mean, given that July and August can interchange there. |
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Post by boombo on Sept 29, 2017 6:17:07 GMT -5
Oceanic, it's impossible really to claim anything else even if we did have a subarctic year in 1986.
I think the closest we've got to continental was in 1995, when August was 22.3/11.3 and December was 2.6/-0.8 (with four days missing though).
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Post by jgtheone on Sept 29, 2017 6:21:02 GMT -5
Oceanic. Although sometimes, it seems like it's semi-arid.
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Post by Donar on Sept 29, 2017 7:34:15 GMT -5
Picked humid continental (mild summer). Temperature wise Munich is pretty much on the border between oceanic and continental but the precipitation pattern is clearly continental.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 9:10:10 GMT -5
Very oceanic.
Ipswich man would probably choose semi-arid.
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Post by Hiromant on Sept 29, 2017 9:11:33 GMT -5
Humid continental (mild summer) but just barely it feels like in recent years. Both summers and winters have been crappy, there's no real bite to the climate anymore. Just moderately cool year round. I'm still hoping for a cold winter but after five failed ones it seems like a pipe dream.
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Post by Babu on Sept 29, 2017 10:49:24 GMT -5
We're definitely a transitional dfc/dfb. I think we're kept back a lot by our mostly boreal vegetation. I think it will have a much more dfb feel once the maple saplings that are all around have grown a bit more. As of now we seem closer to Haparanda than Turku.
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Post by flamingGalah on Sept 29, 2017 10:53:28 GMT -5
Mediterranean obviously, though I do think Malta should fall under a sub set too due to how ridiculously humid it is here in the summer, despite virtually no rainfall for months...
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Post by Ryan on Sept 29, 2017 11:02:50 GMT -5
Csb Mediterranean Climate (Still better than Altea)
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Post by Lommaren on Sept 29, 2017 12:21:19 GMT -5
We're definitely a transitional dfc/dfb. I think we're kept back a lot by our mostly boreal vegetation. I think it will have a much more dfb feel once the maple saplings that are all around have grown a bit more. As of now we seem closer to Haparanda than Turku. So for now, you'd still call it subarctic? |
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Post by Babu on Sept 29, 2017 12:33:23 GMT -5
We're definitely a transitional dfc/dfb. I think we're kept back a lot by our mostly boreal vegetation. I think it will have a much more dfb feel once the maple saplings that are all around have grown a bit more. As of now we seem closer to Haparanda than Turku. So for now, you'd still call it subarctic? Idk. I don't have much experience in other climates, so I don't know which it feels more like really. |
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Post by Lommaren on Sept 29, 2017 12:37:24 GMT -5
I'd say yours is a humid continental because the fourth individually warmest month in any given year (May/September) is likely to exceed 10C.
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Post by Babu on Sept 29, 2017 12:43:55 GMT -5
I'd say yours is a humid continental because the fourth individually warmest month in any given year (May/September) is likely to exceed 10C. 11 out of the last 17 Septembers have been above 10'C, yes. May has only been once (11.2'C though), so May does very little to further cement us into Dfb. |
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Post by Lommaren on Sept 29, 2017 12:51:10 GMT -5
11 out of the last 17 Septembers have been above 10'C, yes. May has only been once (11.2'C though), so May does very little to further cement us into Dfb. Wasn't both May 2002 and 2013 above 10? Particularly the latter was very hot at times in Norrland. Here it's quite similar but May can be pretty warm too. I think it's a good threshold to include both May and September though because it rids some unnecessary subarctic climates with continental summers a classification it doesn't merit. I'm thinking borderline areas in Siberia for example! |
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Post by Babu on Sept 29, 2017 13:28:37 GMT -5
11 out of the last 17 Septembers have been above 10'C, yes. May has only been once (11.2'C though), so May does very little to further cement us into Dfb. Wasn't both May 2002 and 2013 above 10? Particularly the latter was very hot at times in Norrland. Here it's quite similar but May can be pretty warm too. I think it's a good threshold to include both May and September though because it rids some unnecessary subarctic climates with continental summers a classification it doesn't merit. I'm thinking borderline areas in Siberia for example! 2013 was indeed 11.2'C. 2002 was only 9.2'C though with 2016, 2009 and 2010 all warmer at 9.4, 9.6 and 9.7 respectively. |
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Post by Steelernation on Sept 29, 2017 16:37:53 GMT -5
Dfb.
Dfa and Dsa years are relatively common and Dsb, Dwb, and Dwa years have happened. We've come within 0.5 degrees of a "C" classification a few times, but it's never actually happened.
I believe Dfa is more accurate as we have more in common with Chicago, Minneapolis and Des Moines than Moscow, Quebec and Oslo.
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Post by alex992 on Sept 29, 2017 18:36:13 GMT -5
Borderline sub-tropical and tropical. A warm winter with no cold snaps or very little cold snaps can easily make it feel tropical around here. It at the very least feels tropical from May through October every year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 20:18:15 GMT -5
Oceanic on average. My climate has been Cfb and Csb 14 times each in the last 30 years.
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Post by Beercules on Sept 29, 2017 21:14:36 GMT -5
Probably hot-semi arid fits best out of those choices but personally I would class it as warm-semi arid. The drunk Russian's system classifies it as BSk (cold semi-arid).  For Melbourne, definitely subarctic oceanic . |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 4:32:56 GMT -5
cfb with slightly continental influence.
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I've come to the realization that the individual warmest and coldest months during a season are more fitting definitions than just what January or July ends up being on average. Our warmest month here during a calendar year is therefore almost 19C in mean, given that July and August can interchange there.
