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Post by bizzy on Sept 30, 2017 9:10:52 GMT -5
I voted other, I think warm temperate best describes this climate.
Though technically humid subtropical, there isn’t enough winter warmth in my opinion, though the vast majority of the year is more or less subtropical. Also, there’s far too much maritime (tropical and temperate) influence to be considered continental, our seasonal lag is serious, and our average temps are warmer than inland areas at the same latitude.
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Post by Ariete on Sept 30, 2017 10:14:12 GMT -5
11 out of the last 17 Septembers have been above 10'C, yes. May has only been once (11.2'C though), so May does very little to further cement us into Dfb. Wasn't both May 2002 and 2013 above 10? Particularly the latter was very hot at times in Norrland. Here it's quite similar but May can be pretty warm too. I think it's a good threshold to include both May and September though because it rids some unnecessary subarctic climates with continental summers a classification it doesn't merit. I'm thinking borderline areas in Siberia for example! For comparison, on the other side of the gulf, Kokkola has had 15 of 17 Septembers above 10C, but only 2 Mays. --- My climate is obviously mild summer humid continental. Last "subarctic" year was 1996. Using the ridiculous -3C cutoff, 3 years have been "oceanic". |
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Post by ral31 on Sept 30, 2017 10:27:16 GMT -5
Easily humid subtropical. Winters can be pretty variable but averages are still mild.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 3:08:05 GMT -5
Humid subtropical.
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Post by Hlidskjalf on Oct 4, 2017 4:35:04 GMT -5
I would say it is still humid continental, although the winters have been warmer in recent years we still have periods of -10C in january - february.
You could say we live quite close to a subarctic climate as well. I could take the subway for 20 minutes and be in a solid subarctic environment (sept and may below 10C) and Oslos airport Gardermoen is subarctic as well.
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Post by Ariete on Oct 4, 2017 6:28:01 GMT -5
I would say it is still humid continental, although the winters have been warmer in recent years we still have periods of -10C in january - february. You could say we live quite close to a subarctic climate as well. I could take the subway for 20 minutes and be in a solid subarctic environment (sept and may below 10C) and Oslos airport Gardermoen is subarctic as well. You could take what? I agree. I can't call Nidaros oceanic, it would be right to real oceanic climates. |
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Post by Hlidskjalf on Oct 4, 2017 10:15:43 GMT -5
I would say it is still humid continental, although the winters have been warmer in recent years we still have periods of -10C in january - february. You could say we live quite close to a subarctic climate as well. I could take the subway for 20 minutes and be in a solid subarctic environment (sept and may below 10C) and Oslos airport Gardermoen is subarctic as well. You could take what? I agree. I can't call Nidaros oceanic, it would be right to real oceanic climates. Yes, the subway or tram, There are alot of hills here. The snow in the hills usually doesn't melt until mid may. I do believe Trondheim is borderline subarctic due to the cold may and september. |
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Post by Nidaros on Oct 4, 2017 10:15:54 GMT -5
I would say it is still humid continental, although the winters have been warmer in recent years we still have periods of -10C in january - february. You could say we live quite close to a subarctic climate as well. I could take the subway for 20 minutes and be in a solid subarctic environment (sept and may below 10C) and Oslos airport Gardermoen is subarctic as well. I assume you live in or near Oslo. Oslo Airport Gardermoen, situated ca 40 km inland from Oslo and at 200 m asl, was indeed subarctic using 1961-90: May mean 9.4C, Sep 9.3C. 1961-90 was colder than 1931-60. However, nearly all other users here are using more recent base periods. Using 1982-2011 on weatheronline's climate robot (data only goes back to 1982) gives mean 10C in May and 10.2C in Sep. With new normals 1991-2020, Gardermoen will probably be above 10C in both May and Sep. There are many hills around Oslo so I guess it's easy to get up to subarctic areas. Tryvannshøgda at 514 m asl has Sep mean 8.4C (61-90) and should remain subarctic for some time. |
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Post by Ryan on Oct 4, 2017 10:34:04 GMT -5
A Mild Mediterranean Climate (Csb) The gayest climate zone in the whole Universe
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Post by Ariete on Oct 4, 2017 12:41:57 GMT -5
You could take what? I agree. I can't call Nidaros oceanic, it would be right to real oceanic climates. Yes, the subway or tram, There are alot of hills here. The snow in the hills usually doesn't melt until mid may. I do believe Trondheim is borderline subarctic due to the cold may and september. Yes, never mind. Too many Norwegians.  |
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Post by yankeefan93 on Oct 7, 2017 8:47:04 GMT -5
Monroe CT is a Dfa climate because it's too cold in the winter to be a Cfa climate whereas NY is borderline IMO. I feel like there needs to be a climate classification between the D and C climates.
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Post by aabc123 on Oct 7, 2017 10:45:50 GMT -5
According to Koeppen it is Humid continental (mild summer). According to Russian Alisov's which is used here in schoolbooks and what I like and sometimes dislike because it's simplicy it is temperate -that zone covers all from London to Yakutsk (mine lying pretty middle of that belt).
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Post by Cadeau on Oct 19, 2017 20:17:58 GMT -5
Dfa temporarily. Have lived Csb, Cfa, Cfb climates in the recent past 6 years.
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Post by tij on Aug 13, 2019 3:32:16 GMT -5
Minneapolis: Definitely firmly "a" nowadays for summers with 29/19c in july and >22c in aug for recent years, but transitions have a hemiboreal/cold-biased element, in colder years March and November can feel quite winter-like and April has been rather chilly in recent years, but Oct >10c and sept still mildly warm with 23c highs. Coniferous vegetation begins to mix in in the far northern suburbs. Winters imo are much too dry for it to be f, it's very much a w climate, more similar to Manchurian climates with the faster spring warmup relative to winter and summer peaks and the drier and sunnier winters compared to say, Pittsburgh or upstate New York. So Dwa with hemiboreal influenced winters and transitions Providence: Winters are firmly mesothermal or "Cfx" in my opinion, a snowpack is not typically maintained throughout the course of the season and more than 1/2 of winter precipitation is rain. Cold snaps are also rather muted compared to the interior continental climates, with records similar to the upper south. I did experience a subzero night but it's not persistent or that common. Spring lags significantly more than a typical Cfa climate, but fall in recent years has acquired a more mid-atlantic tinge. It has "marine elements" like fewer thunderstorm days, a slight warm season trough in precip, and more muted variability but it is still definitely unlike a west-coast oceanic climate. So cool-end Cfa/mesothermal/warm-temperate climate (aka ULTRASUBTROPIQUE Yahya Sinwar ) with marine moderation and continental influence. |
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Post by Cadeau on Aug 13, 2019 10:48:55 GMT -5
Dfa temporarily. Have lived Csb, Cfa, Cfb climates in the recent past 6 years. Changed my vote to Cfb  |
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Post by Speagles84 on Aug 13, 2019 11:35:11 GMT -5
Dfb koppen - Humid continental mild summer.
With the summers warming I may eventually reach a Dfa
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Post by Moron on Aug 13, 2019 11:42:03 GMT -5
Mediterranean hot summer, pretty simple.
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Post by Steelernation on Aug 13, 2019 12:02:41 GMT -5
Humid continental hot summer (Dfa).
6 months >10 C, hottest month right around 22 C.
More importantly were were fully within the deciduous zone—natural vegetation is 99% deciduous trees. That should be the real dividing line with Dfa being deciduous and Dfb being hemiboreal.
We also have far more in common with borderline “C” climates than we do with Winnipeg, Oslo or Quebec.
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Post by Yahya Sinwar on Aug 13, 2019 12:27:14 GMT -5
Cfa weird thread most people aren’t really debating their climate classification .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 15:59:11 GMT -5
Dry-summer oceanic, a subset of oceanic climates
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