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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2020 6:57:44 GMT -5
It does have 4 seasons and they are four distinct seasons. 13/3 is very different from 32/16, there’s absolutely no confusion between winter and summer. And if there’s a clear winter and summer, there’s spring and fall. Late reply, but where do you draw the line? If Wagga Wagga and Chicago have four distinct seasons, what do Sydney and Los Angeles have? Heck, I'd even say Miami has four distinct seasons. You're not going to confuse a dry 76/59 January day with summer or a humid 92/79 day with afternoon popcorn storms for winter! |
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Post by Steelernation on Dec 6, 2020 13:13:18 GMT -5
Late reply, but where do you draw the line? If Wagga Wagga and Chicago have four distinct seasons, what do Sydney and Los Angeles have? 4 less distinct seasons. I’d say only equatorial climates like Singapore don’t. |
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Post by knot on Dec 6, 2020 14:31:19 GMT -5
IMO, Sydney doesn't have a winter at all. The decidious foliage hardly goes into an autumnal phase, let alone a wintry (bare) phase—much unlike Wagga, which has distinct and on-cue foliage phases.
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Post by Ethereal on Dec 6, 2020 21:05:30 GMT -5
IMO, Sydney doesn't have a winter at all. The decidious foliage hardly goes into an autumnal phase, let alone a wintry (bare) phase—much unlike Wagga, which has distinct and on-cue foliage phases. Our autumn foliage just doesn't "catch up" with the seasons, if that makes sense? Deciduous trees change colour usually by late May to June, and by the middle or late of June they finally become bare. They are not in sync with the seasons. Though they do become more in sync by spring, with many trees leafing from early September or early October (depending on the species - Frangipanis and Celtis sinensis seem bare up until early October, I noticed). But what do off/on-cue foliage phases have to do with Sydney not having a winter? As temperatures and daylight times go, I'd say we definitely do have a distinct winter season IMO. It may be not too cold or that distinct, but it's still a winter. |
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Post by knot on Dec 6, 2020 21:13:33 GMT -5
But what do off/on-cue foliage phases have to do with Sydney not having a winter? As temperatures and daylight times go, I'd say we definitely do have a distinct winter season IMO. It may be not too cold or that distinct, but it's still a winter. Given that I, personally, see Europe as the peak of civilisation—I likewise use European standards to define seasons. Wagga, by European standards, most certainly has a winter; corresponding to about 43° N in Western Europe. Whereas Sydney, does not. |
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Post by Crunch41 on Dec 6, 2020 21:14:45 GMT -5
Everywhere but some tropical places have seasons. Even if temperatures don't change, the latitude is enough to give places at mid latitudes noticeable seasons. But in the US a "four season climate" always refers to somewhere with a large temperature range between seasons. Sydney has seasons, but doesn't fit the US stereotype of a four season climate. Deciding what and what isn't a winter is up to each person. Sydney never gets snow or below freezing and it's midwinter temperatures are mild. So to me, it does not get a winter. To someone from Siberia, my climate might not have a winter.
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Post by Crunch41 on Dec 6, 2020 21:29:03 GMT -5
That looks like something I made when I was playing around for fun. Someone fixed it, thanks whoever did that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2020 21:36:53 GMT -5
Crunch41 to me, "winter" is just a period of the year that's distinctly cooler than summer, and has little or no overlap in typical temperatures compared with that of summer. There's no arbitrary temperature threshold that determines whether a place has a "winter". My dream climate doesn't get snow or extreme cold, but it still has a winter; you don't get crisp 55'F mornings in the summer (Jun-Aug), and you don't get 110'F from heat bursts in the winter (Dec-Feb). Also the person who fixed that messed-up weatherbox is srfoskey, who I also didn't realize was as young as he is!
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Post by srfoskey on Dec 6, 2020 22:49:55 GMT -5
Crunch41 to me, "winter" is just a period of the year that's distinctly cooler than summer, and has little or no overlap in typical temperatures compared with that of summer. There's no arbitrary temperature threshold that determines whether a place has a "winter". My dream climate doesn't get snow or extreme cold, but it still has a winter; you don't get crisp 55'F mornings in the summer (Jun-Aug), and you don't get 110'F from heat bursts in the winter (Dec-Feb). Also the person who fixed that messed-up weatherbox is srfoskey , who I also didn't realize was as young as he is! Lol if you were stalking me on Wikipedia, I haven't updated my page in a few years. |
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Post by Benfxmth on Dec 18, 2020 21:22:08 GMT -5
I thought it was about climate boxes whose source was climate-data.org (?) A bit late of a response, but this thread is mostly for climate boxes which are obviously wrong/vandalized, climate-data.org isn't a reliable source for climate statistics (it's nowhere near the likes of Inaccuweather/Weatherbase though). |
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Post by Marcelo on Dec 29, 2020 9:01:31 GMT -5
I thought it was about climate boxes whose source was climate-data.org (?) A bit late of a response, but this thread is mostly for climate boxes which are obviously wrong/vandalized, climate-data.org isn't a reliable source for climate statistics (it's nowhere near the likes of Inaccuweather/Weatherbase though). I know, I just like bashing on it. |
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Post by Crunch41 on Dec 31, 2020 10:18:49 GMT -5
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Post by omegaraptor on Jan 1, 2021 20:15:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 22:03:18 GMT -5
I guess I'm just impressed that somewhere with 15/2 Celsius March averages can pull off 50 cm of snow in that month alone. That's nuts too. |
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Post by Crunch41 on Jan 2, 2021 15:31:37 GMT -5
The nearest few stations I found on WRCC. Surely Pollock Pines is too warm.
But PRISM agrees with the wiki box. For 38.7576N -120.5758W Eevation: 3967ft (1209m) it shows this: 68.5/45.6 annual average, 46.23" precip. July is 90.0/60.9 and 0.09", January 52.0/35.3 and 8.88"
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Post by Crunch41 on Jan 5, 2021 15:37:43 GMT -5
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Post by trolik on Jan 11, 2021 14:10:31 GMT -5
The nearest few stations I found on WRCC. Surely Pollock Pines is too warm.
But PRISM agrees with the wiki box. For 38.7576N -120.5758W Eevation: 3967ft (1209m) it shows this: 68.5/45.6 annual average, 46.23" precip. July is 90.0/60.9 and 0.09", January 52.0/35.3 and 8.88"
im surprised the diurnal range for placerville in summer is that low compared to other parts of inland ca |
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Post by omegaraptor on Jan 14, 2021 0:21:36 GMT -5
 Cougar Dam is in the Cascades east of Eugene, Oregon at 1500'. It supposedly recorded 111F with an average high of 91.2 last August. Rename Cougar Dam to Botev Dam? |
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Post by Babu on Jan 14, 2021 12:21:29 GMT -5
It looks about right if you ignore the means and the annual precipitation days. Don't know why the highs/lows are rounded though. |
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Post by Donar on Jan 16, 2021 12:33:30 GMT -5
Freiburg's wiki table has a long history of boteving, the current one is 2015-2020 lol:
The old version was bullshit too. The weather station was relocated in 2006 to a less UHI influenced location, so everything before 2006 should be taken with a grain of salt. But even taking this into account, these summer averages are too warm, actual 81-10 July averages would be about 26/15 °C.
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