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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 12:10:38 GMT -5
What are your criteria and classifications for a good or bad climate? What makes a climate a A, B, C, D, E or an F? Are you consistent, or do you give automatic F's to climates that are either too rainy/sunny/warm/cold? This is my criteria, same as before, except with a few revisions, i.e. being less harsh on places with cold winters but more stringent on cloudy climates and climates with cool summers. It is not hard-and-fast; I may makes exceptions for some climates, but this is a general guideline. Here it is: A-grade climates must have these characteristics: - The hottest month must have an average high of 90-103°F (32-39°C)
- The average lows in the hottest month must be above 55°F (13°C)
- There must be at least 2,800 sunshine hours
- All months must have at least 50% possible sunshine
- For an A+ grade, the average dew points must be below 65°F (19°C) and have a record high above 110°F (43°C)
- The coldest month must have an average low above 32°F (0°C)
- There must be fewer than 90 precipitation days
If the precipitation, dew point/record high criterion is not met in a climate, then it will get an A-. B-grade climates are climates that fail the A-grade criteria; the B-grade is given to climates that have the following characteristics: - At least 2,400 sunshine hours
- At least 35% possible sunshine in the cloudiest month
- The coldest month has an average low below 32°F (0°C) but above 14°F (–10°C)
- The hottest month has an average high above 83°F (28°C) (if the coldest month has a monthly mean below 50°F (10°C); the threshold is 80°F (27°C) if the coldest month has a monthly mean above 50°F (10°C); OR climates that have an average high above 104°F (40°C) but below 113°F (45°C)
C-grade climates are climates which fail the B-grade criteria; the C-grade is given to climates that have the following characteristics: - At least 2,000 sunshine hours
- The coldest month has an average low below 14°F (–10°C) but above –13°F (–25°C)
- The hottest month has an average high above 77°F (25°C) (if the coldest month has a monthly mean below 50°F (10°C); the threshold is 74°F (23°C) if the coldest month has a monthly mean above 50°F (10°C); OR climates that have an average high above 113°F (45°C)
D-grade climates are climates which fail the C-grade criteria; the D-grade is given to climates that have the following characteristics:- At least 1,700 sunshine hours
- The coldest month has an average low below –13°F (–25°C) but above –36°F (–38°C)
- The hottest month has an average high above 73°F (23°C) (if the coldest month has a monthly mean below 50°F (10°C); the threshold is 70°F (21°C) if the coldest month has a monthly mean above 50°F (10°C)
E-grade climates are climates which fail the D-grade criteria; the E-grade is given to climates that have the following characteristics:- At least 1,400 sunshine hours
- The coldest month has an average low below –36°F (–38°C)
- The hottest month has an average high above 67°F (19°C) regardless of monthly mean temperature of coldest month
The F-grade is given to climates that fail the A, B, C, D and E grades. This grade includes subarctic, tundra and ice cap climates. NOTE: Any climate that has an all-time record high equal to or below 86°F (30°C) will get an automatic F, regardless of sunshine hours or average temperatures. Some extremely wet climates, like Cherrapunji also get the F grade. Furthermore, the F- grade is given to climates that have fewer than 800 sunshine hours, and that have all months below 50°F (10°C) and above 32°F (0°C), ex. Campbell Island.
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 5, 2020 14:27:18 GMT -5
A is an excellent climate with only a few minor flaws.
B is a good but not great climate.
C is a meh climate.
D is a bad but not terrible climate.
E is a terrible but livable climate.
F is unlivable climates.
Don’t really have any rules or criteria except the lowest grade I’d give a “pleasant but boring” climate is a D-.
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Post by knot on Jan 5, 2020 19:12:21 GMT -5
A+ = Perfect or Near-Perfect
A = Spectacular
A– = Very Good
B+ = Good
B = Mediocre
B– = Satisfactory
C+ = Unsatisfactory
C = Poor
C– = Very Poor
D+ = Gay
D = Very Gay
D– = Catastrophic
E+ = Dastardly
E = Diabolical
E– (through to F–) = varying levels of Suicidal (i.e. how quickly I would commit suicide)
And no, I do not yield any criteria whatsoever regarding climate ratings; I give them out at random.
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 5, 2020 19:14:32 GMT -5
The biggest hard and fast rule I have is that Tundra=F. Another one I have is hyper arid (less than 1”) is an F. I’ll try to come up with a more comprehensive rating scale later tonight.
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Post by trolik on Jan 5, 2020 20:28:54 GMT -5
An A+ climate (Brisbane) gets warm temps throughout the year with some temperature variation (high teens, low 20s winters, upper 20s or 30 summers), average low 18C+ in summer and 8C+ in winter, stormy summers, preferably no record lows below 0C, and 2600+ sun totals.
The more the climate deviates from this, the lower the grade. Although mild and warm winters are usually given the biggest weighing, if the climate ticks most of the other factors listed above, it's gonna rate higher. For example, New York is a D+/C whilst London is a D- because even though London has milder winters, New York beats it in the storms, summer temps and sun department
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Post by tij on Jan 5, 2020 21:11:46 GMT -5
Vaguely: A represents a rather excellent climate that has only a few minor issues. - Summer would have a ~22c mean with 27-29c avg highs, and winter would have ~2c mean with 5c-7c avg highs, although it could be slightly milder or colder in some circumstances as long as snow is reasonably likely during the season while extreme cold is fairly uncommon
- Transition seasons should ideally be mild as well, around 18/8c in April and October, with summerlike weather still possible at times in May and September.
- My ideal precipitation total would be ~1000 mm/40", think anything from ~25"-55" would be acceptable for an A-grade though.
- My ideal sun total is also around 2500 hrs, reasonably sunny but still with a good amount of variety to avoid "stagnation"
- Annual mean should be >11c and <14c or so
A would include Turin, IT, Zagreb, HR, Crossville, TN, Blacksburg, VA, A- would include New Haven-CT (touch chilly in winter and spring), Valence, FR (touch mild in winter), Beckley WV (too gloomy)
B probably reflects a good climate that has some minor to moderate issues, whether summers are too hot/mild, or winters are too cold/mild, or being too wet or dry. Many pleasant but boring climates would be in the B category as well. - I'm generally looking for summers not below 20c means, with at least 25-26c highs to be in this category, and not above 25-26c means either or >32-33c avg highs.
- For winter, I'm looking for somewhere where accumulating snow occurs at least once or twice a year on average (so generally not above 13/4), and for nothing below 0/-8c or so (-4c means) where extended, subzero F cold becomes a possibility.
- Ideally sun hours would not be <1900 hrs or >3100hrs
- For precipitation I wouldn't want to have flooding issues and would like to avoid semi-aridity to achieve this grade
- Annual mean should be >9c and <16c or so
B+: Boston-MA (transitions slightly cool), Toulouse, FR (winter too mild), Milan, Italy (summer a bit too hot) B: New York City (summer nights too warm), Soria, Spain (too dry), Avignon (too warm year-round) B-: Detroit MI (winters too cold), St Louis MO(summer too hot and long), Freiburg, GE (gloomy and a bit cool in summer), Portland-OR (boring), Okutama, JP (gloomy), Cannes FR (winters too mild), Gangneung, SK (summer monsoon + humidity + night issues) C is an average/decent climate, where I probably appreciate a decent portion of the year but find another part either overwhelming or really burdensome/irritating, or in the case of milder winters, still pleasant but too bland. - Annual mean should be >6c and <23c or so
C+: Porto, PO (bit bland), Le Mans, FR (bit moderated and gloomy), Ithaca-NY (winter and spring are chilly), Barcelona, ES (too warm and dry year round), Atlanta-GA (too warm year-round), Tehran, IR (too hot and dry in summer), Lincoln, NE (too continental), México, ME (too monotonous but comfortable), C: Wuhan (summer is too hot), Minneapolis-MN (winter is too cold), Krakow (too gloomy and on the chilly side) C-: Dallas-TX (too hot), Nicosia-CY(too hot), Hamburg (too cool summers), Montréal-QC (poor spring, slightly mild summer, and harsh winter) , Sapporo-JP (too gloomy + snowy and poor spring) D is a fairly poor climate, where I would be uncomfortable most of the year, or severely uncomfortable during at least one part, and the rest of the year doesn't seem good enough to fully compensate for that, but where I still would find liveable (at least a D+) D+: Harbin, PRC (winters too cold), Stockholm, SE (chilly transition seasons and tepid summers), Hanoi, VT (too hot + humid and poor sun), Phoenix, AZ (far too hot, dry, and blindingly sunny), Dublin, IR (dross weather), Bergen, NO (bad summers and overly damp) D: Saskatoon, SK (too frigid winters + weak summers), Baghdad, IQ (brutal desertic heat), Tampere, FI (just too cold year round), Bangkok, TH (perpetually hot and humid) E would probably represent a climate that could be survivable on some level but that also seems really unpleasant most of the time. I could tolerate a short stint in a climte like this but couldn't reside there long-term; I use this grade instead of D-. ~Perhaps referring to places like St John's Nfld (too cold, especially terrible spring and weak summer), Torshávn DE (way too chilly in summer and sunless), Krasnoyarsk RU (horribly cold), Mecca SA (disgustingly hot and dry), Niamey NI(scorching) F: I would use this for absolutely atrocious climates that seem horrible: F+: Fairbanks, AK (horrific winter), Yakutsk (even more horrific winter), Longyearbyen, NO (no >10c weather in summer and harsh winter), Dallol (furnace) F: Barrow, AK, Tiksi, RU, Norilsk RU F-: Vostok and interior Antarctica (a class of its own)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 2:30:52 GMT -5
Yes, I would rate it an F+; the plus is because it is comfortable, but the fact that there is no chance of real heat is a deal-breaker.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 17:45:51 GMT -5
A = Excellent climates with Mediterranean or semi arid precipitation patterns, mild winters and warm summers. Las Palmas, Casablanca.
B = This rating includes places with excellent temperatures but lose points for precipitation pattern, eg Sydney, Brisbane.
C = Neutral climates such as London, Paris.
D = These are places with a major flaw in the winter, or extreme hot/wet summers. NYC or Mumbai.
E = Few things good about these climates, but not totally unliveable. Places like Lerwick or Oslo.
F = Vostok, Dallol. People don't live here for a reason.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 2:35:37 GMT -5
A = Excellent climates with Mediterranean or semi arid precipitation patterns, mild winters and warm summers. Las Palmas, Casablanca. B = This rating includes places with excellent temperatures but lose points for precipitation pattern, eg Sydney, Brisbane. C = Neutral climates such as London, Paris. D = These are places with a major flaw in the winter, or extreme hot/wet summers. NYC or Mumbai. E = Few things good about these climates, but not totally unliveable. Places like Lerwick or Oslo. F = Vostok, Dallol. People don't live here for a reason. Welcome back to this forum!
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Post by Ethereal on Apr 28, 2022 22:08:26 GMT -5
A: Almost perfect, sunny climates, not too dry, not too cold, not too hot B: Some flaws but still very livable C: Half good, half bad D: No thanks E: Terrible F: Unlivable hellholes
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Post by firebird1988 on May 2, 2022 1:21:06 GMT -5
A=tropical desert, but ocean moderated B=BWh, BSh, Csa C=Aw, As, Csb D=Cfa F=Af, Cfb, BSk, BWk or any D or E climate
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Post by greysrigging on May 2, 2022 2:55:33 GMT -5
Wikiboxes with predominant blue colours will never get more than a D and more likely less. Red/orange predominant likely A-C depending on the rainfall regime. Monsoonal and Med rate highly. Frost, ice and snow don't rate although record events do not necessarily reduce a rating.
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Post by melonside421 on May 8, 2022 7:17:15 GMT -5
A = great B = good C = meh D = bad F = terrible
Simple as.
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Post by MET on May 8, 2022 7:29:25 GMT -5
My criteria will be how closely a climate matches my dream climate, which is still being generated in real time.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on May 8, 2022 8:28:30 GMT -5
A = great B = good C = meh D = bad F = terrible Simple as. There is nothing higher than great?
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Post by alex992 on May 8, 2022 8:29:17 GMT -5
A+ = perfect climate
A = excellent climate with maybe one minor flaw
A- = excellent climate with a couple of minor flaws
B+ = very good climate with a few minor flaws, or maybe one major flaw
B = Good climate with a few minor flaws or one major flaw
B- = Solid climate but has a fair amount of flaws
C+ = Above average climate but has a good amount of flaws
C = Average climate with an equal amount of flaws and good qualities
C- = Average climate with slightly more flaws than good qualities
D+ = Slightly below average climate that has some good qualities, but overall meh
D = Below average climate with some redeeming qualities
D- = A bad climate with some redeeming qualities
E+ = Bad climate with a few redeeming qualities
E = Bad climate with a redeemable quality or two
E- = Very bad climate that is still livable for me
F+ = Awful climate with a couple of decent qualities
F = Awful climate with one redeemable quality
F- = Irredeemable climate with zero good qualities, awful in every way
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Post by melonside421 on May 8, 2022 9:40:10 GMT -5
A = great B = good C = meh D = bad F = terrible Simple as. There is nothing higher than great? Some people like to overcomplicate things, so I want to make it as simple as possible, which is my reasoning. Great climates are places that: A: Would have snow in the winter(Niigata, Flagstaff, Syracuse, Binghampton) B: Can grow things in the winter(50-55F highs with 35-40F lows at the least) Places that are neither like KY, VA, Maryland, NYC, etc are rather just okay climates, definitely not the worst but not the best either. I love the big oak trees so these places aren't really that bad tbh.
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Post by Cheeseman on May 8, 2022 19:02:04 GMT -5
I use a formula, calculated in Excel, weighting 10 different factors regarding temperatures, precipitation, and sunshine hours. Scores out of 4.00 are added up and then divided by 13 (coldest month mean, warmest month mean, and annual precip total are multiplied by two, being the three most important factors). (The 4.00 perfect score comes from American academic grading - in which a 4.00 GPA corresponds to getting an A in every course taken - so a climate that gets a B in temperatures and a D in precipitation can balance out to a C overall). In general I consider 2.70 or higher (a B- average) to be a decent climate, 3.00 or higher being notably good - though given the rarity of extremely high grades I'm a bit more lenient in translating these to letter grades; a 3.02 would be an A- instead of a B for example.
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Post by Benfxmth on Sept 16, 2024 11:19:25 GMT -5
Some real life climate examples by rating; A+ - Plenty of epic heat and storms, while also having plenty of sun and a cool winter for variety en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAllen,_Texas#Climate en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamabad#ClimateA - Excellent climate with mostly the same, with plenty of humid heat and no shortage of storms though without the icing on the cake of potential of extreme heat en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa,_Florida#Monthly_averages en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallahassee,_Florida#Climate A- - Also excellent with great temps though with very minor flaws, like wrong precip pattern or too dry en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicosia#Climateen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newman,_Western_Australia#Climate B+ - very good though not enough seasonality OR too dry/not enough storms for an A, minor flaws really en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin,_Northern_Territory#Climate en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Springs,_California#Climate B - good with nice winters and plenty of storms, but could use a bit hotter summers en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisbane#ClimateB- - colder and cloudier than ideal in winter, though decent temps overall but great summers en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka#ClimateC+ - no really unpleasant temps and gets storms but summer temps aren't anything to write home about. Also applies to some somewhat elevated tropical climates with 80/70°F temps year-round. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney#Climateen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn#ClimateC - Continental climates with too cold winters but made up by good summers with epic storms and have decent sunshine hours en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omaha,_Nebraska#Climate C- - Larger diurnal range continental climate with cold lows but warm afternoons in summer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver#ClimateD+ - Lousy maritime/elevation moderated climate but good sunshine hours and not much cold gloom en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Town#Climateen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City#ClimateD - Maritime moderated climate with lackluster crummers and frequent polar outbreaks, thunderstorms are few and far between en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne#ClimateD- - Continental climate with tepid crummers, cloudy snowy winters en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo,_New_York#Climate E+ - Heavily coastcucked climate that rarely sees warmth or storms, though sunshine prevents it from being F en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco#ClimateE - Cold cloudy maritime dross with barely-there crummers and skin-penetrating cold drizzle in winter en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London#ClimateE- - Horrid climate with pathetic crummers, shithouse cold winters en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_River,_Manitoba#Climate F+ - Horrific climate with idiotic polar lows year round and no growing season en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley,_Idaho#Climate The more oddball case of a F+ climate is one that gets automatic F for disgustingly low sunshine despite decent temps, showing that temps aren't always everything: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chongqing#ClimateA more classic solid F climate is a subarctic maritime piece of garbage with no summers, or a place with frigid winters. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reykjav%C3%ADk#Climateen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutsk#ClimateF- - Irredeemable POS climates with no chance of enjoyable weather ever. Also reserved for completely uninhabitable places en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macquarie_Island#Climateen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longyearbyen#Climateen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_Island,_New_Zealand#Climate en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_Station#Climate
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Post by MET on Sept 16, 2024 11:40:07 GMT -5
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