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Post by Morningrise on Apr 16, 2020 13:39:37 GMT -5
-When you have those first few days to a couple weeks of nice weather in the spring, and then it plunges back into an extended period of winter -When the nice weather arrives in the forecast but then is perpetually stuck in the final day or two of the forecast, for weeks at a time. We're finally getting out of that mess now -Pretty much anytime winter weather bleeds into the shoulder seasons and makes our already short season of non-frigid weather even shorter -When an epic weather forecast suddenly gets downgraded to something totally unremarkable at the last minute -When great summer weather gets ruined by obnoxiously smokey conditions that make it unpleasant to go outside, especially for extended periods of time (I'm looking at you, August 2018!) -When Winnipeg gets epic heatwaves in the summer with lows and dew points consistently several degrees higher than us -When Calgary gets 5C to 10C sunny weather in the middle of winter while we're freezing our asses off -Looking at Windsor's forecast most days of the year... man, I envy that climate
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 14:15:24 GMT -5
Having more and more cloudy days as the month goes on, so that what started off as a sunny month will not even make it to normal.
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Post by knot on Apr 16, 2020 15:59:53 GMT -5
Ethereal The farther south you go on the mainland, generally, summers get sunnier and drier: The latitudinal gradient is especially prominent in February. Notice how the summer cloud cover and rainfall featured above stray farther, and farther away from the inland regions and confined to the coastal plain as you go poleward. The South Coast is just in a sunnier region by default than the Sydney Basin, coupled with a stronger foehn effect than Sydney; downsloping winds from 2,200 m rather than Sydney's 1,400 m ranges to their west, and a larger distance for those downwinds to travel—thereby increasing the adiabatic compression (lapse rate) on the leeward side. It's the opposite in winter; the farther south and west you go, the cloudier and wetter it gets:
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Post by rozenn on Apr 16, 2020 16:04:55 GMT -5
A lot has already been mentioned, so here are some the worst offenders: - Places close by getting heaps of snow while close to fuck all falls here. Usually a double whammy as no snow means unremarkable temps afterwards. - The rare times when we do get a decent snow cover it's usually followed by unsettled, windy and mild weather eating the snowpack in no time. - Heatwaves ending with a mere wind change bringing in lame ass oceanic air without any storm. - Looking at a temp map of the northern hemisphere in winter and realizing that we're the only place with lame ass limbo temps at our latitude - Epic (for here...) cold snaps dying right in the ass: - At the Polish/German border
- At the French/German border
- Literally right at our doors:
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Post by alex992 on Apr 16, 2020 16:34:02 GMT -5
Days like today fucking trigger me, gotten threatening clouds all fucking day, but have gotten sweet fuck all in terms of storms because they keep grazing us. Fuck this climate, fuck the location I'm in, and fuck each and every single one of you (not really, just frustrated). rozenn the mild/warm winter weather after a snowfall fucking pisses me off to. As I mentioned last page, Northern VA would get snow to rain storms very often in winter. These storms typically have a warm front attached to them (hence going from snow to rain). So getting snow, getting it fucked by rain, and then getting whatever little snow leftover fucked by 50-60 F temps in winter was all too fucking common.
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Post by Morningrise on Apr 16, 2020 18:14:34 GMT -5
Oh I forgot, and this is by far one of the most annoying ones for me... when you've got a month that's on track to be particularly unusual/noteworthy/record-setting/etc, and then one or two days come along and ruin it, especially if it happens right at the end when you were so close to something so epic.
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Post by Ethereal on Apr 16, 2020 23:11:11 GMT -5
Ethereal The farther south you go on the mainland, generally, summers get sunnier and drier: The latitudinal gradient is especially prominent in February. Notice how the summer cloud cover and rainfall featured above stray farther, and farther away from the inland regions and confined to the coastal plain as you go poleward. The South Coast is just in a sunnier region by default than the Sydney Basin, coupled with a stronger foehn effect than Sydney; downsloping winds from 2,200 m rather than Sydney's 1,400 m ranges to their west, and a larger distance for those downwinds to travel—thereby increasing the adiabatic compression (lapse rate) on the leeward side. It's the opposite in winter; the farther south and west you go, the cloudier and wetter it gets: Interesting though, inland Sydney and the SC have the same amount of average precipitation. Except the dreaded cloud cover still looms over us. But I'm guessing at the time the city gets rainfall, and we would have a mundane overcast day. That area opposite of Cooma to the coast, below Moruya Heads (guessing it's Bega and Narooma?) seems to have uniform rainfall. Not going up or down in both seasons (stuck with 100mm). Not sure why it's so dry down there. But hey, I'm glad that they're gloomier in the winter. Winter gloom is worse than a summer one.
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Post by Beercules on Apr 17, 2020 1:30:08 GMT -5
- The cold fronts in summer. Way too prone to sub 20C days in summer. - Missing out on heavy rain and storms due to rain shadow - Barely any frosts/zero snow - Getting all the ocean cloud whilst the norffff stays sunny and hot in summer- Novembers. Tf is up with them? It's either cloudy and wet or like 26C average and hot as fuck for weeks. I prefer the latter but it's too inconsistent, and definitely more cloudy and wet. - When Hobart is somehow warmer than here. That's the worst fucking thing ever. Because it's the inland norff mate. So their consistent sun and warmth kinda makes sense, nah? Try living in Sydney CBD at 33'S and yet find out places like Bega, Narooma and Merimbula (36'S) in the south coast of NSW have less rainy days/precipitation amount and more sunny/clear days - The latter is anecdotal though, as I discovered this 'fact' personally on daily satellite pics websites -- These SC pricks always skip cloudy days somehow, whereas we would be getting those stratus cloud cover, which seem to be obsessed with us more when the SC is more oceanic! This absurdity is more common in the warm months after we get a southerly buster in those hot searing days where the next day would normally be cloudy and cool (don't really care about the cool part), whereas the south-coasters would have a clear day, despite the cool blustery air that just came over there. Not sure if it's a dumb-luck fluke or they somehow cannot get clouds due to a geographical thing? This is what I'm talking about (like, why...why?): Can somebody explain this infuriating 'phenomena'? Or maybe I'm just exaggerating it too much? P.S. If I were in Melbourne I'd be more pissed off considering that they TOO are COASTAL places and on the SAME LATITUDE, and yet they manage to be sunnier? I'd be more mad at them than the norff like Bendigo and Mildura. Lol. Sydney CBD however has much better temps than the likes of Narooma, Bega and Merimbula. Give me the warm humid 20C+ lows of Sydney over those Melbournes any day.
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Post by jgtheone on Apr 17, 2020 1:56:39 GMT -5
- The cold fronts in summer. Way too prone to sub 20C days in summer. - Missing out on heavy rain and storms due to rain shadow - Barely any frosts/zero snow - Getting all the ocean cloud whilst the norffff stays sunny and hot in summer- Novembers. Tf is up with them? It's either cloudy and wet or like 26C average and hot as fuck for weeks. I prefer the latter but it's too inconsistent, and definitely more cloudy and wet. - When Hobart is somehow warmer than here. That's the worst fucking thing ever. Because it's the inland norff mate. So their consistent sun and warmth kinda makes sense, nah? P.S. If I were in Melbourne I'd be more pissed off considering that they TOO are COASTAL places and on the SAME LATITUDE, and yet they manage to be sunnier? I'd be more mad at them than the norff like Bendigo and Mildura. Lol. It makes sense but it's still a trigger point. Obviously I cannot control geography, but I can be mad at it lol.
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Post by Ethereal on Apr 17, 2020 5:06:47 GMT -5
Because it's the inland norff mate. So their consistent sun and warmth kinda makes sense, nah? P.S. If I were in Melbourne I'd be more pissed off considering that they TOO are COASTAL places and on the SAME LATITUDE, and yet they manage to be sunnier? I'd be more mad at them than the norff like Bendigo and Mildura. Lol. It makes sense but it's still a trigger point. Obviously I cannot control geography, but I can be mad at it lol. Yeah Lol. I can understand why people get triggered, so who I am to judge since I just complained like a bitch up there Lmao. I used to get triggered back in the day about Port Macquarie and Taree because of their warmer winters. But then I realized, it kinda makes sense since they're northwards from us. But these bitches to the south getting more sun days and less severe rainfall events than us? Hold my garden hose!
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Post by Ethereal on Apr 17, 2020 5:12:59 GMT -5
Because it's the inland norff mate. So their consistent sun and warmth kinda makes sense, nah? Try living in Sydney CBD at 33'S and yet find out places like Bega, Narooma and Merimbula (36'S) in the south coast of NSW have less rainy days/precipitation amount and more sunny/clear days - The latter is anecdotal though, as I discovered this 'fact' personally on daily satellite pics websites -- These SC pricks always skip cloudy days somehow, whereas we would be getting those stratus cloud cover, which seem to be obsessed with us more when the SC is more oceanic! This absurdity is more common in the warm months after we get a southerly buster in those hot searing days where the next day would normally be cloudy and cool (don't really care about the cool part), whereas the south-coasters would have a clear day, despite the cool blustery air that just came over there. Not sure if it's a dumb-luck fluke or they somehow cannot get clouds due to a geographical thing? This is what I'm talking about (like, why...why?): Can somebody explain this infuriating 'phenomena'? Or maybe I'm just exaggerating it too much? P.S. If I were in Melbourne I'd be more pissed off considering that they TOO are COASTAL places and on the SAME LATITUDE, and yet they manage to be sunnier? I'd be more mad at them than the norff like Bendigo and Mildura. Lol. Sydney CBD however has much better temps than the likes of Narooma, Bega and Merimbula. Give me the warm humid 20C+ lows of Sydney over those Melbournes any day. If it makes you feel better, Renmark is far superior to anything on the east coast. Low annual precipitation, decent sunshine hours (they're like 2800 hrs+ correct?), low summer humidity and nice shrubby Med environment. Very damn ideal. It's like San Diego but with hotter summers. Yeah, yeah, not much thunderstorms and nights can be cold, but hey at least consistently hot summer temps and sunshine are enough for me. I understand the Perth hate though. They're like that rich kid that gets everything without having to work for it. I mean Perth is a forgotten city on the west coast of Australia. Nobody cares about it much. And yet its climate is pretty darn fantastic (even I can admit that, though it's not my ideal). I would prefer if Sydney were founded there instead (you don't have to call it Sydney Lol, but I mean the largest Aussie city should've been on the west coast). Melbourne would've been a good Esperance? Oh and Canberra should've been Albany.
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Post by Beercules on Apr 17, 2020 5:23:37 GMT -5
Mildura has 3139 hours annually according to figures from the BOM, so it's safe to assume it is basically the same here. It's sunny enough here that you really notice broken-overcast stratocrapulus days, while in southern Victoria for example it is just background noise.
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Post by Donar on Apr 17, 2020 15:45:47 GMT -5
- When Frankfurt is in fog under higher pressure conditions in winter while others enjoy sunshine.
- When Aachen is significantly colder than Frankfurt in summer, more than it should be according to averages.
- A cold wave without any snow followed by temperatures slightly above freezing and rain/sleet.
- The odd days in summer when we have 15 °C highs and rain but Eastern and Western Europe both don't have below average weather
- in general when placed supposed to be crappier than me have better weather
- A once great forecast that gradually becomes more crappy by every model run
- any fucken forecasted thunderstorm that steers clear of my location
- any backslash of winter after I had thought spring finally arrived
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Post by Ethereal on Apr 17, 2020 20:41:55 GMT -5
And to add to my point about the "fertile & green" east coast of NSW (and why they should have colonised southwestern WA instead), we are actually less liveable than the milder and passive southwestern WA (since colonists apparently saw the land there as dry, desolate and infertile ). Did I mention the floods, heavy winds and bushfires here? They didn't know about those back then. The colonists saw a nice green vegetation, the Parra river and "yep, we'll take it", not knowing the foreboding danger. Does Perth even get bushfires? I haven't heard much about that. Even floods are not that common there I think, despite the prominent winter rainfall. So even the first European colonists and their dumb choice trigger me. Lol. I mean, why go around the big fat continent of Australia to Sydney and Melbourne when you have fucking Perth to the southwest which is in the Indian Ocean and easily navigable?
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Post by knot on Apr 17, 2020 21:08:25 GMT -5
And to add to my point about the "fertile & green" east coast of NSW (and why they should have colonised southwestern WA instead), we are actually less liveable than the milder and passive southwestern WA (since colonists apparently saw the land there as dry, desolate and infertile ). Did I mention the floods, heavy winds and bushfires here? They didn't know about those back then. The colonists saw a nice green vegetation, the Parra river and "yep, we'll take it", not knowing the foreboding danger. Does Perth even get bushfires? I haven't heard much about that. Even floods are not that common there I think, despite the prominent winter rainfall. So even the first European colonists and their dumb choice trigger me. Lol. I mean, why go around the big fat continent of Australia to Sydney and Melbourne when you have fucking Perth to the southwest which is in the Indian Ocean and easily navigable? You underestimate just how superior agriculture is in NSW and VIC. SW NSW is far lusher than SW WA, due to yielding vast highland regions with lower evaporation rates: Cooler and wetter is better for grazing and most cropping, no question about it. Our settlers chose wisely—not only for our superior climate, but also our superior natural scenery.
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Post by Beercules on Apr 18, 2020 1:15:03 GMT -5
I forgot an important one: Hot forecasts in summer getting downgraded with every model run, and cold fronts getting accelerated and vomited further north.Penis GoAndKillYourself McGhey
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Post by Moron on Apr 18, 2020 2:17:05 GMT -5
And to add to my point about the "fertile & green" east coast of NSW (and why they should have colonised southwestern WA instead), we are actually less liveable than the milder and passive southwestern WA (since colonists apparently saw the land there as dry, desolate and infertile ). Did I mention the floods, heavy winds and bushfires here? They didn't know about those back then. The colonists saw a nice green vegetation, the Parra river and "yep, we'll take it", not knowing the foreboding danger. Does Perth even get bushfires? I haven't heard much about that. Even floods are not that common there I think, despite the prominent winter rainfall. So even the first European colonists and their dumb choice trigger me. Lol. I mean, why go around the big fat continent of Australia to Sydney and Melbourne when you have fucking Perth to the southwest which is in the Indian Ocean and easily navigable? We don't get many floods, if we do they're usually flash floods that last for a few hours. The reason they didn't immediately inhabit Albany (which is actually WA's first colonised town) is because they had to sail along the south coast of WA which is prone to king waves (some of the biggest in the world) and huge storms from autumn-spring; compared to Perth which has better sailing conditions. Also for some reason the early settlers found the one patch of good soil for agriculture in the Perth Basin and thought that the rest of the region would be like that and is a contributing factor to Perth being settled; unfortunately they were quite wrong. Read the "early european exploration" subheading for more info on them thinking Perth was an agricultural hotspot: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Perth,_Western_Australia
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Post by Giorbanguly on Apr 18, 2020 23:53:22 GMT -5
Looking at Paris and London forecasts right now is triggering, especially considering how much farther north they are
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Post by Ethereal on Apr 19, 2020 2:18:46 GMT -5
And to add to my point about the "fertile & green" east coast of NSW (and why they should have colonised southwestern WA instead), we are actually less liveable than the milder and passive southwestern WA (since colonists apparently saw the land there as dry, desolate and infertile ). Did I mention the floods, heavy winds and bushfires here? They didn't know about those back then. The colonists saw a nice green vegetation, the Parra river and "yep, we'll take it", not knowing the foreboding danger. Does Perth even get bushfires? I haven't heard much about that. Even floods are not that common there I think, despite the prominent winter rainfall. So even the first European colonists and their dumb choice trigger me. Lol. I mean, why go around the big fat continent of Australia to Sydney and Melbourne when you have fucking Perth to the southwest which is in the Indian Ocean and easily navigable? You underestimate just how superior agriculture is in NSW and VIC. SW NSW is far lusher than SW WA, due to yielding vast highland regions with lower evaporation rates: Cooler and wetter is better for grazing and most cropping, no question about it. Our settlers chose wisely—not only for our superior climate, but also our superior natural scenery. I did say that SE NSW was fertile and green. Hence the reason why they settled here. And yes, agriculture is very important. But did the region around Perth really look infertile and dry? In the wet season/winter, it looks lush from space. I'm not veyr informed about Perth's history, but perhaps they landed there in summer or during a bad drought? I mean, these agricultural lands in around Perth look pleasantly green and fertile:
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Post by Moron on Apr 19, 2020 3:24:46 GMT -5
You underestimate just how superior agriculture is in NSW and VIC. SW NSW is far lusher than SW WA, due to yielding vast highland regions with lower evaporation rates: Cooler and wetter is better for grazing and most cropping, no question about it. Our settlers chose wisely—not only for our superior climate, but also our superior natural scenery. I did say that SE NSW was fertile and green. Hence the reason why they settled here. And yes, agriculture is very important. But did the region around Perth really look infertile and dry? In the wet season/winter, it looks lush from space. I'm not veyr informed about Perth's history, but perhaps they landed there in summer or during a bad drought? I mean, these agricultural lands in around Perth look pleasantly green and fertile: Those photos look like they're from the Pemberton/Nannup region which are 300km+ from Perth and not near a viable port. Im pretty sure they landed in Perth in March 1829 and Captain Stirling went up the Swan River in March/April.
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