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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on May 21, 2020 0:09:02 GMT -5
Well, I found this climate by chance and what a find. This must be the snowiest city anywhere in Japan. Even for Japan, this is just mind-boggingly snowy and it's at 37N and at a modest elevation of 150m/500 feet.  I hereby grant this climate a solid: ASunshine distribution is good, although the hours are on the low side but still acceptable. Going by Niigata's summer record highs, they wouldn't be much different here, so around 38-40C. It loses points for warm winters but those are offset by the insane snowfall. |
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Post by knot on May 21, 2020 0:35:57 GMT -5
Notwithstanding the epic winters, it's a D+ due entirely to its muggy, washed-out summers.
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Post by Steelernation on May 21, 2020 1:49:15 GMT -5
May and June are decent...and at least it’s not cold. E.
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Post by AJ1013 on May 21, 2020 7:11:04 GMT -5
Way too much snow, too stable year round, too cloudy, summers too warm. Main problem is the snowfall of course. E+
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Post by Ariete on May 21, 2020 7:25:46 GMT -5
D. Scary precipitation amounts and especially snowfall, shitty gloomy monsoon summers, way too cloudy, too much lag...
Verdict: Asexual.
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Post by chesternz on May 21, 2020 7:37:53 GMT -5
D-. Way too wet and cloudy. And those winters look as though they'd be a constant back and forth between snow and cold rain - slush city. Summer temps are decent, but ruined by rain and low sunshine.
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Post by boombo on May 21, 2020 15:13:42 GMT -5
I gave this a B, I wouldn't want to live there but I had to give it higher just for being so impressive and weird.
Does precipitation come with colder weather there? Their winter highs aren't that different to ours but I'm struggling to see how much of their precip falls as snow, especially in April.
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Post by tij on May 21, 2020 17:45:45 GMT -5
A severely distorted version of NYC, think a C or so seems fair for having fairly a decent (if a tinge overly continental) temperature regime but severe issues with excessive precip, both rain and snow, and low sunshine.
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Post by Morningrise on May 22, 2020 0:09:36 GMT -5
D for Damn! The absurd snowfall ruins it. Such a shame, because the temperatures are quite nice.
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Post by Speagles84 on May 22, 2020 6:47:02 GMT -5
Too warm and wet D
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Post by Crunch41 on May 22, 2020 12:55:36 GMT -5
A severely distorted version of NYC It's so distorted that I don't think of NYC at all. What made you think of NYC? This is an incredibly snowy place and a good find for climate trivia but I don't want to live in a place that gets this much rain and snow. D. I wonder if it gets much winter rain. December clearly gets some, but if the average snow ratio is above 10 it would see rain in January and February also. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on May 22, 2020 13:54:57 GMT -5
A severely distorted version of NYC It's so distorted that I don't think of NYC at all. What made you think of NYC? This is an incredibly snowy place and a good find for climate trivia but I don't want to live in a place that gets this much rain and snow. D. I wonder if it gets much winter rain. December clearly gets some, but if the average snow ratio is above 10 it would see rain in January and February also. Scroll down a bit and hover mouse over each image for a 15s video. www.gettyimages.ca/videos/tokamachi?phrase=tokamachi&sort=bestThe reasons for the insane snowfall are, from what I can gather: -Geographic position on the island runs SW to NE. Areas farther north are less snowy due to a position with a more N-S line. -Siberian outflow sea-effect is maximized due to the above as the outflow usually moves southeast, not east. -Orographic lift of the mountains immediately to the south (2000' to 6000') further intensifies all precipitation coming from the N/NW. The snow in those videos does look pretty wet but to accumulate that much it'd still need to be snowing a vast majority of the time. I don't think rain is that common in January and February. December and March though, yes. boombo I think April's eye-catching snowfall comes from infrequent but strong Siberian outflows, which aren't uncommon in April. They probably only get 3-5 days of snow in April. Side note, it even snowed a few cm in Tokyo on March 31/April 1 this year. |
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Post by Crunch41 on May 22, 2020 15:48:24 GMT -5
There are a lot more stats if you click the source on wikipedia.
Days with precipitation over 1mm: 202. Peak of 25 in January, minimum of 12 in May
Ice days: 8. 4 in January, 3 in February, less than 1 in December and May
Frosts: 100.4, with a peak of 28 in January. First in November last in April.
Temperatures are extremely stable in winter. 28 lows below freezing, but only 4 highs.
Average wind speed: 1.0 m/s. High wind is rare. Most common wind is south or SSW
Days with 5cm snow cover: 116. Days over 100cm: 62. "Deepest snow" 211 or 224 cm. Is that the record depth?
Snow depth generally from mid-December to mid-April.
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Post by tij on May 22, 2020 16:29:00 GMT -5
A severely distorted version of NYC It's so distorted that I don't think of NYC at all. What made you think of NYC? This is an incredibly snowy place and a good find for climate trivia but I don't want to live in a place that gets this much rain and snow. D. I wonder if it gets much winter rain. December clearly gets some, but if the average snow ratio is above 10 it would see rain in January and February also. The temp profile is a quite close match actually, with a significant amount of lag (although Tokamachi has it exaggerated)! Yet this place has more snow and less sunshine than the snowbelt areas of Upstate NY! It's a Bungholized NYC essentially Giorbanguly! |
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Post by knot on May 22, 2020 16:55:54 GMT -5
It's so distorted that I don't think of NYC at all. What made you think of NYC? Strewth, 100%. NYC is one of the last places on my mind when I see the climate box of Tokamachi. Why so? Because unlike the Jap climate, NYC gets most of its precip from warm fronts rather than cold fronts—the complete opposite pattern! In fact, my own climate is much closer to Tokamachi than NYC is, and by a long shot; cold = wet pattern, and warm = dry. NYC is the reverse. |
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Post by ilmc90 on May 26, 2020 19:03:08 GMT -5
Awesome find  I'll give it a B. Snow is a little over the top and the summers are warmer than ideal but definitely not boring. |
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Post by chesternz on May 27, 2020 1:55:02 GMT -5
'A' for interest value, 'D-' for comfort. D+, overall. Too cold, wet and cloudy to give it anything higher. But it's definitely not a boring climate. This is my idea of a balanced "four season" climate. Winters are properly cold and snowy (but not extremely cold). It has proper summers, too (albeit cloudy). And I understand the West coast of Japan gets some decent winter thunderstorms as well. But, ultimately, warm and sunny is my preference, so I can't give it a C or higher even though it's very interesting.
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Post by Ethereal on Mar 9, 2022 7:09:24 GMT -5
F+
Japan already has the worst climates in the world and this hellhole just took the cake.
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Post by melonside421 on Mar 9, 2022 8:45:57 GMT -5
As much as I praise Japan for having excellent snow/cold ratios, this just has way too much snow, and it would be more of a problem with most of Japan being urbanized, except for the mountains and Hokkaido Prefecture. 30-50 inches of snowpack is ideal for me IMO  . Therefore, I rate this as a C. |
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Post by Benfxmth on Mar 9, 2022 9:11:49 GMT -5
D
Fucking awful cloudy winters and apocalyptic amounts of wet snow, but the semi-decent summers save it from an E or F.
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. Therefore, I rate this as a C.