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Post by deneb78 on May 28, 2020 13:44:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 13:48:07 GMT -5
Inukjuak is shocking. It makes Lerwick look warm, and Lerwick is further north.
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Post by Steelernation on May 28, 2020 13:54:12 GMT -5
Inukjiak by far.
San Francisco isn’t anomalous for the latitude at all. Go a bit inland and it’s much warmer in summer, it’s just heavily moderated by the ocean. Not much different from what one would expect from a coastal climate at its latitude.
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Post by deneb78 on May 28, 2020 13:56:07 GMT -5
Inukjiak by far. San Francisco isn’t anomalous for the latitude at all. Go a bit inland and it’s much warmer in summer, it’s just heavily moderated by the ocean. Not much different from what one would expect from a coastal climate at its latitude. San Francisco is cold in summer. I went in July and had to wear a jacket. Not normal for a place at 37 degrees latitude. Compare with almost anywhere else in the world at that latitude like in Portugal and even southern hemisphere places like Auckland. |
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Post by Steelernation on May 28, 2020 14:01:07 GMT -5
San Francisco is cold in summer. I went in July and had to wear a jacket. Not normal for a place at 37 degrees latitude. Compare with almost anywhere else in the world at that latitude like in Portugal and even southern hemisphere places like Auckland. It’s only like 5 f cooler than other coastal places at similar latitudes. And a few miles inland it’s exactly what you’d expect. |
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Post by Crunch41 on May 28, 2020 14:19:45 GMT -5
This is the most shocking for the latitude. Look at that July!  Someone messed up the box on San Francisco's wiki page |
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Post by deneb78 on May 28, 2020 16:05:46 GMT -5
San Francisco is cold in summer. I went in July and had to wear a jacket. Not normal for a place at 37 degrees latitude. Compare with almost anywhere else in the world at that latitude like in Portugal and even southern hemisphere places like Auckland. It’s only like 5 f cooler than other coastal places at similar latitudes. And a few miles inland it’s exactly what you’d expect. Like which places? San Francisco in July averages 60F and Lisbon in July averages 74F. Auckland which is a very oceanic climate averages 66F. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 16:39:00 GMT -5
July highs in SF are like a warm May or cool September in London, neither of which are 'cold'.
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Post by deneb78 on May 28, 2020 16:53:00 GMT -5
Keep in mind there is a more than 20 degree latitude difference between San Francisco and Inukjuak, so we aren't comparing places at a similar latitude.
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Post by tij on May 28, 2020 17:01:35 GMT -5
cdweather.boards.net/thread/1891/average-climate-latitudeActually believe it would be SF if one is solely considering negative anomalies (for July): ~86/65 (30/18) for July at 38N (interpolated) vs 67/54 (19/12) @ SF downtown -- a difference of 15f/ 8.5c ~68/53 (20/12) for July at 58N (interpolated) vs 56/42 (13/6) @ Inukjuak -- a difference of 11.5f /6.5c // For annual mean we have -1.5c @ 58N (interpolated) vs -7c @ Inukjuak -- -10f/-5.5c 12.3c @ 38N (interpolated) vs 14.1c @ SF downtown -- 3.2f/ +1.8c So Inukjuak is the greater negative anomaly here
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Post by Cadeau on May 28, 2020 17:14:31 GMT -5
Inukjuak. SF’s “pleasant” summer occurs only small pocket of the peninsula and Chile has even more cooler summer at the same latitude. Special trait yet nothing exclusive.
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Post by deneb78 on May 28, 2020 18:00:25 GMT -5
cdweather.boards.net/thread/1891/average-climate-latitudeActually believe it would be SF if one is solely considering negative anomalies (for July): ~86/65 (30/18) for July at 38N (interpolated) vs 67/54 (19/12) @ SF downtown -- a difference of 15f/ 8.5c ~68/53 (20/12) for July at 58N (interpolated) vs 56/42 (13/6) @ Inukjuak -- a difference of 11.5f /6.5c // For annual mean we have -1.5c @ 58N (interpolated) vs -7c @ Inukjuak -- -10f/-5.5c 12.3c @ 38N (interpolated) vs 14.1c @ SF downtown -- 3.2f/ +1.8c So Inukjuak is the greater negative anomaly here Very cool to see the average temperature for each latitude range in the world. It definitely looks like Inukjuak is the winner here for more anomalous. |
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Post by Steelernation on May 28, 2020 20:59:51 GMT -5
Like which places? San Francisco in July averages 60F and Lisbon in July averages 74F. Auckland which is a very oceanic climate averages 66F. SF has a 70 f average high in its warmest month. Tarifa, Spain is 76 f. In the SH, Concepcion, Chile is 73 f and areas to the north are cooler. Wilson’s Promontary, Australia is 69 f, New Plymouth, NZ is 71 f. |
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Post by knot on May 28, 2020 23:58:41 GMT -5
Inukjuak, not even close!San Francisco's summers are only "cold for the latitude" because of sea-fog/marine layer. Nothing compared to SH locations, such as Western Victoria (e.g. Warrnambool @ 38° S), which has strikingly cool summers without the help of any fog whatsoever (just pure cold fronts from the Southern Ocean)—even far inland in W VIC, summers are still very cool for the latitude and elevation (e.g. Ararat @ 37° S).
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Post by chesternz on May 29, 2020 4:57:37 GMT -5
The Canadian place is far more of an anomaly. The climate of the bay area varies enormously with distance from the cold ocean. Look at San Jose, for instance:  |
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Post by Babu on May 30, 2020 0:22:55 GMT -5
Inukjuak merely because of the fact that the winters are extremely cold as well. Had the winters been oceanic, it wouldn't have been weird. San francisco is very similar to the southwestern coast of Africa and South America
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Post by Babu on May 30, 2020 0:25:15 GMT -5
It’s only like 5 f cooler than other coastal places at similar latitudes. And a few miles inland it’s exactly what you’d expect. Like which places? San Francisco in July averages 60F and Lisbon in July averages 74F. Auckland which is a very oceanic climate averages 66F. |
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Post by Moron on May 30, 2020 0:40:01 GMT -5
Inukjuak merely because of the fact that the winters are extremely cold as well. Had the winters been oceanic, it wouldn't have been weird. San francisco is very similar to the southwestern coast of Africa and South America Only talking about summer for this |
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Post by Donar on May 30, 2020 8:46:07 GMT -5
Inukjuak, not even close!San Francisco's summers are only "cold for the latitude" because of sea-fog/marine layer. Nothing compared to SH locations, such as Western Victoria (e.g. Warrnambool @ 38° S), which has strikingly cool summers without the help of any fog whatsoever (just pure cold fronts from the Southern Ocean)—even far inland in W VIC, summers are still very cool for the latitude and elevation (e.g. Ararat @ 37° S). Why should cold fronts matter more than fog? Both are natural causes. |
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Post by knot on May 30, 2020 13:45:46 GMT -5
Why should cold fronts matter more than fog? Both are natural causes. Because as soon as you go even slightly inland in SF's case, it suddenly gets significantly hotter—due to marine layer fog losing its influence. Whereas in Western Victoria, even if you go far inland, summers are still very cool for the latitude (and altitude). |
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