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Post by Beercules on Feb 4, 2023 2:14:11 GMT -5
This tree looks so much healthier after being given water and being put out in the sun. I'll have to plant it. Never heard of Bamboo Palms. Want to try Cane Palms, Bangalows, and King Palms.  |
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Post by greysrigging on Feb 4, 2023 2:30:55 GMT -5
^^ that doesn't really want be in a full sun Riverlands summer ( ie +35c summer days ) dappled sunshine or half day sunshine is ok. But I suppose 3 successive La Nina summers has it doing ok.... lol.
Its a bit yellow.... give that pot some poor man's fertilizer...ie piss in a bucket of water say 3 or 4 litres to a bladder full of recycled VB or Carlton Dry and it will love you for it ! Or if you are a rich bastard, get some liquid fish emulsion type stuff, powerfeed or whatever and it will respond magnificantly.
I wouldn't plant it myself.... but certainly buy a nice bigger ceramic pot, repot with a good quality potting mix, feed it and it will be a real feature palm that is likely not that common where you are located. They are native to Mexico ans Central America at altitude, so like their water.... in a large pot you really wont overwater it, and in winter likely only once a week at best....
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Feb 4, 2023 11:00:31 GMT -5
Beercules King palms are a top 3 palm species IMO. They look similar to coco palms, but can take cooler winters and temps around 23F-25F. Should grow well in your climate, provided there is irrigation.
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Post by Beercules on Feb 4, 2023 19:35:03 GMT -5
^^ that doesn't really want be in a full sun Riverlands summer ( ie +35c summer days ) dappled sunshine or half day sunshine is ok. But I suppose 3 successive La Nina summers has it doing ok.... lol. Its a bit yellow.... give that pot some poor man's fertilizer...ie piss in a bucket of water say 3 or 4 litres to a bladder full of recycled VB or Carlton Dry and it will love you for it ! Or if you are a rich bastard, get some liquid fish emulsion type stuff, powerfeed or whatever and it will respond magnificantly. I wouldn't plant it myself.... but certainly buy a nice bigger ceramic pot, repot with a good quality potting mix, feed it and it will be a real feature palm that is likely not that common where you are located. They are native to Mexico ans Central America at altitude, so like their water.... in a large pot you really wont overwater it, and in winter likely only once a week at best.... I did some review, and have concluded that in no shape or form am I rich bastard lol Certainly have a fair few pots and even barrels lying around the place. I could use one of those. Powerfeed is good, used that for my chillis now have a years supply of homegrown superhots Might grab a few King Palms and Golden Canes and try those aswell. Yeah these things like warm humidity, not so much our traditional Riverland frying pan days, which in our gay new age climate have gone MIA. So in general do ypu reckon putting these palms in pots is better than planting them? Last Genuine Riverland heat was in mid-January then it all went to Penis Buttsecks Mcghee hell. |
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Post by greysrigging on Feb 4, 2023 20:57:05 GMT -5
TBH, I'm no authority on what species of palm would grow happily in your climate.... those real low dp/humidity and fan forced oven temps of a normal Renmark summer are actually pretty tough conditions.... next time you're over in the big smoke ( Mildura ) have a look at what people are growing there or if Mildura has a botanical gardens, suss it out too.
Don't let Bunnings garden staff bullshit on what can/will grow happily....
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Post by Beercules on Feb 5, 2023 3:38:36 GMT -5
TBH, I'm no authority on what species of palm would grow happily in your climate.... those real low dp/humidity and fan forced oven temps of a normal Renmark summer are actually pretty tough conditions.... next time you're over in the big smoke ( Mildura ) have a look at what people are growing there or if Mildura has a botanical gardens, suss it out too. Don't let Bunnings garden staff bullshit on what can/will grow happily.... Most common species is easily the Queen palm. But don't want those as they are everywhere already. I've definitely seen King palms around, and seem to do alright. I think the main obstacle is the heat and low humidity, but with enough watering they should be ok. |
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Post by greysrigging on Feb 5, 2023 4:10:26 GMT -5
Queen palms are quite common down south.... they'll even grow in Melbourne. The Washingtonias from the USA will also grow.... often marketed down south as 'Cotton Palms'. I bought one as a gift for my mother-in-law 30 years ago.... thrived in a pot then rooted itself in the ground thrpugh the pot at Berrigan in the Murray Valley Riverina.
Same as Trachy's (Trachycarpus fortunei ) .... you often see a pair of at the gates of old farm homesteads ( 50' tall or more ) in Vic, SA and NSW. The Govt used to gift them to soldier settlers after WW1.
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Post by Ethereal on Feb 7, 2023 8:46:11 GMT -5
The Cumberland Plain Woodland (aka Western Sydney Woodland), biome-ly speaking, is it more temperate forest or shrubland in your eyes?   |
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Post by Beercules on Feb 9, 2023 7:32:45 GMT -5
Queen palms are quite common down south.... they'll even grow in Melbourne. The Washingtonias from the USA will also grow.... often marketed down south as 'Cotton Palms'. I bought one as a gift for my mother-in-law 30 years ago.... thrived in a pot then rooted itself in the ground thrpugh the pot at Berrigan in the Murray Valley Riverina. Same as Trachy's (Trachycarpus fortunei ) .... you often see a pair of at the gates of old farm homesteads ( 50' tall or more ) in Vic, SA and NSW. The Govt used to gift them to soldier settlers after WW1. Update.... the Bamboo palm can't survive the Riverland sun and heat, even though the first week of Fuckuary has been the coldest on record, -5C below avg. Many of its leaves have been basically bleached, so moved it back under cover. I can see this thing going nuts on the NSW and QLD coast, but here is not the right climate for it. Looks like it's too much for the Umbrella trees aswell, some of their leaves looked to be cooked aswell. I am still keen to try a King palm, I've seen them in Renmark doing alright. But, predominant species are Washingtonias, Phoenix, and Queen palms, but you see, all those are so common, I want to try my luck with something a little more exotic. I will try a King Palm, but if it suffers too, then I guess I am limited to Washingtonias, Phoenix Date Palms, and Queen palms. I'm 800 metres from Lake Bonney, which is a storage of humidity, but still, looks like I am too far, even thought my PWS records higher dewpoints than Renmark or Loxton. Still not enough. I would not be surprised if a lot more tropical and subtropical palms could grow right on the sandy shoreline of the lake than here (humid air, lower highs, and warmer lows). Can literally smell the humidity increasing on my walks down to the lake. I do have two small Washingtonias in a pot, and they are very healthy. They should be, Renmark and Mildura is full of them. There are stands of them seemingly growing in the wild, even in the water. I know near Mildura there are some naturalised stands of these things, and also Phoenix bushes near canals, can see them on Streetview. Some of the more exotic species cost a lot of money, so, scared to buy them for they will be killed, have to research the palms that grow in the Middle East, SW USA, Mexico, arid areas of Australia, the Mediterranean, and Saharan Africa. Tropical and subtropical species from Queensland, NSW, Florida, SE Asia, South America, won't survive here. Some pics of palms in Renmark I took a couple years ago. I left out Washingtonias, Phoenix, and Queen palms coz they are everywhere. These are all in the town, and riverside locations. At the airport BOM site, most of these would likely be dust.        |
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Post by Beercules on Feb 17, 2023 1:56:03 GMT -5
Latest update... the bamboo palm and the umbrella trees have been cooked. They are done. I've literally committed tree murder.
Looks like I'm limited to species growing in the Middle East, SW USA, the deserts of Mexico, and around the Meditereanean (how ever the fuck you spell that) and oases in sub-Saharan Africa. In other words, the various Phoenix and Washingtonia species.
Species growing in warm humid climates will simply be roasted here.
Really need to live in coastal NSW and coastal QLD, and up to Darwin, to get the most out of growing palms.
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Post by greysrigging on Feb 17, 2023 2:55:49 GMT -5
Zone pushing leads to either tears and/or an empty wallet.
The Riverland is a dry arid climate, so realistically ya grow palms from a similar ecosystem....
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Post by greysrigging on Feb 19, 2023 17:41:06 GMT -5
One of my favourite pics ( Flinders ranges, SA )  |
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Post by ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ on Apr 11, 2024 21:36:55 GMT -5
Araucaria columnaris from New Caledonia  Sphaeropteris intermedia from New Caledonia  Guess I need to go to New Caledonia. |
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Post by Steelernation on Apr 12, 2024 15:29:06 GMT -5
Araucaria columnaris from New Caledonia I love Araucaria columnaris, looks like that could be a boreal forest at first glance but in a tropical climate. |
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Post by ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ on Apr 12, 2024 17:37:12 GMT -5
Araucaria columnaris from New Caledonia I love Araucaria columnaris, looks like that could be a boreal forest at first glance but in a tropical climate. Yeah I'd love to grow them or live somewhere that has them (and the many variants of tree ferns). Maybe I really should just move to New Caledonia down the road. The climate is extremely nice, the island isn't too small (over twice the length of PEIGEI), the landscape is reasonably diverse with a wet east coast and a drier west coast, respectable mountains, and it's actually remote. I'd also be able to grow many other things...year-round. It does get hit with cyclones though, so...  I still love snow though. |
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Post by greysrigging on Apr 16, 2024 19:04:16 GMT -5
Acers ( Japanese Maple ) are common exotics planted out in the cooler climes of s e AU
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Post by greysrigging on Apr 16, 2024 19:31:20 GMT -5
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Post by ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ on Apr 17, 2024 6:39:16 GMT -5
greysrigging Looks like they've got some proper conifers there as well. Nice place!
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Post by greysrigging on Apr 17, 2024 16:45:40 GMT -5
Mount Macedon is a wealthy highland town/district.... lots of old money and old English mansions and estates. About an your or so north west of Melbourne. Back in the day the place was a summer get away location for the City's monied residents. Prone to devastating bushfires, the town was destroyed by the Ash Wednesday fires of Feb 1983.  |
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Post by greysrigging on Apr 26, 2024 0:03:36 GMT -5
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