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Post by Speagles84 on Sept 9, 2020 7:18:17 GMT -5
Rate this abrasive arctic climate. I know its far from most peoples type of climate, but stumbled across it this morning. We are planning a trip to Gates of the Arctic National Park and Kobuk Valley National Park and this is one of the closest airports. I can't think of many populated places on earth (this town has thousands of residents) that has FAILED to ever reach 50F/10C for more than half the year.
My rating is a D, its far too cold and long of a winter to be enjoyable, and there isn't a summer to speak of.
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Post by Benfxmth on Sept 9, 2020 7:20:26 GMT -5
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Post by jgtheone on Sept 9, 2020 7:23:49 GMT -5
As soon as I saw Alaska my mind was made up.
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Post by Donar on Sept 9, 2020 7:27:56 GMT -5
Kotze is a vulgar term for puke in German. So the name describes the climate well. F.
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Post by Speagles84 on Sept 9, 2020 7:28:08 GMT -5
As soon as I saw Alaska my mind was made up. F Don't hate, there are plenty of good ones, I more posted it because of the "hasn't reached 10C ever in at least 6 months of the year" reasoning lol. There are some places I'm sure you wouldn't give an F like maybe Skagway? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skagway,_Alaska |
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Post by jgtheone on Sept 9, 2020 7:31:13 GMT -5
As soon as I saw Alaska my mind was made up. F Don't hate, there are plenty of good ones, I more posted it because of the "hasn't reached 10C ever in at least 6 months of the year" reasoning lol. There are some places I'm sure you wouldn't give an F like maybe Skagway? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skagway,_Alaska Lmao as soon as it appeared on the census mfs started trying to get the hell out of there Yeah, I guess I give that one an E+.  |
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Post by ππΏMΓΆrΓΆnππΏ on Sept 9, 2020 9:54:09 GMT -5
D-/E+ Speagles84 how would you get from Kotzebue to Kobuk national park? |
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Post by Speagles84 on Sept 9, 2020 10:01:23 GMT -5
D-/E+ Speagles84 how would you get from Kotzebue to Kobuk national park? Hike 
Honestly I'm not sure of that yet. We're in the very preliminary stages of planning, and just trying to find out how to get close.
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Post by Steelernation on Sept 9, 2020 10:46:25 GMT -5
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Post by ππΏMΓΆrΓΆnππΏ on Sept 9, 2020 11:13:23 GMT -5
D-/E+ Speagles84 how would you get from Kotzebue to Kobuk national park? Hike
Honestly I'm not sure of that yet. We're in the very preliminary stages of planning, and just trying to find out how to get close.
Sounds like you'll need to hire a bush pilot. |
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Post by Ariete on Sept 9, 2020 11:49:41 GMT -5
F-, unlivable.
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Post by Speagles84 on Sept 9, 2020 11:55:08 GMT -5
Penguins of Kotzebue make the frozen penguins of Turdku look like Toucan Sam. |
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Post by knot on Sept 9, 2020 16:20:49 GMT -5
F+; lethally frigid and dry as a bone, but at least there's a notable amount of snowfall.
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Post by Crunch41 on Sept 18, 2020 0:24:15 GMT -5
Places with thousands of people that have failed to reach 50F for at least 6 months. Starting with this list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_northernmost_settlements) and adding a few others
A few in North America. With how sparsely populated it gets in the arctic I don't think I missed any cities.
Barrow/Utqiagvik (71N) - 8 months, 4000 people
Prudhoe Bay (70N) - 7 months, 2000 people
Iqaluit (64N) - 7 months 8000 people
Rankin Inlet (63N) - 6 months 2800 people
Arviat (61N) - 6 months 2700 people
No cities in Greenland or Canada outside of Nunavut.
In Europe
Longyearbyen (78N) - 7 or 8 months, 2400 people
Russia (of course it would). Norilsk alone is probably larger than every inhabited place this cold outside of Russia.
Norilsk (69N) - 6 months, just barely, 175000 people. Dudinka adds another 20,000 people
Magadan (59.6N) - 6 months, 96000 people. Below 60N
Anadyr (64N) - 6 months, 15000 people
These far northern places aren't impressive compared to Magadan so I stopped looking. There are more out there.
Khatanga (72N) - 6 months, 3000 people
Tiksi (71N) - 7 months, 5000 people
Saskylakh (72N) - 7 months, 2000 people
Chokurdakh (71N) - 7 months, 2000 people
Pevek (70N) - 6 months, 4000 people
I don't know of any in the southern hemisphere, or any odd alpine spots that have the population and cold. La Rinconada Peru is too warm. Southern Thule probably is cold enough but nobody lives there. Bouvet Island and Antarctica too. McMurdo Station meets 9 months and reaches over 1000 people in summer.
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Post by Crunch41 on Sept 18, 2020 0:26:31 GMT -5
For the actual thread, D-, way too cold.
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Post by Beercules on Sept 18, 2020 1:31:41 GMT -5
Fucking hell / F
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Post by Speagles84 on Sept 18, 2020 6:08:47 GMT -5
Places with thousands of people that have failed to reach 50F for at least 6 months. Starting with this list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_northernmost_settlements) and adding a few others A few in North America. With how sparsely populated it gets in the arctic I don't think I missed any cities. Barrow/Utqiagvik (71N) - 8 months, 4000 people Prudhoe Bay (70N) - 7 months, 2000 people Iqaluit (64N) - 7 months 8000 people Rankin Inlet (63N) - 6 months 2800 people Arviat (61N) - 6 months 2700 people No cities in Greenland or Canada outside of Nunavut. In Europe Longyearbyen (78N) - 7 or 8 months, 2400 people Russia (of course it would). Norilsk alone is probably larger than every inhabited place this cold outside of Russia. Norilsk (69N) - 6 months, just barely, 175000 people. Dudinka adds another 20,000 people Magadan (59.6N) - 6 months, 96000 people. Below 60N Anadyr (64N) - 6 months, 15000 people These far northern places aren't impressive compared to Magadan so I stopped looking. There are more out there. Khatanga (72N) - 6 months, 3000 people Tiksi (71N) - 7 months, 5000 people Saskylakh (72N) - 7 months, 2000 people Chokurdakh (71N) - 7 months, 2000 people Pevek (70N) - 6 months, 4000 people I don't know of any in the southern hemisphere, or any odd alpine spots that have the population and cold. La Rinconada Peru is too warm. Southern Thule probably is cold enough but nobody lives there. Bouvet Island and Antarctica too. McMurdo Station meets 9 months and reaches over 1000 people in summer. Nice leg work |
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Post by boombo on Sept 18, 2020 7:54:30 GMT -5
An obvious F from me, though I'm sure it's worth a visit. Places with thousands of people that have failed to reach 50F for at least 6 months. Starting with this list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_northernmost_settlements) and adding a few others A few in North America. With how sparsely populated it gets in the arctic I don't think I missed any cities. Barrow/Utqiagvik (71N) - 8 months, 4000 people Prudhoe Bay (70N) - 7 months, 2000 people Iqaluit (64N) - 7 months 8000 people Rankin Inlet (63N) - 6 months 2800 people Arviat (61N) - 6 months 2700 people No cities in Greenland or Canada outside of Nunavut. In Europe Longyearbyen (78N) - 7 or 8 months, 2400 people Russia (of course it would). Norilsk alone is probably larger than every inhabited place this cold outside of Russia. Norilsk (69N) - 6 months, just barely, 175000 people. Dudinka adds another 20,000 people Magadan (59.6N) - 6 months, 96000 people. Below 60N Anadyr (64N) - 6 months, 15000 people These far northern places aren't impressive compared to Magadan so I stopped looking. There are more out there. Khatanga (72N) - 6 months, 3000 people Tiksi (71N) - 7 months, 5000 people Saskylakh (72N) - 7 months, 2000 people Chokurdakh (71N) - 7 months, 2000 people Pevek (70N) - 6 months, 4000 people I don't know of any in the southern hemisphere, or any odd alpine spots that have the population and cold. La Rinconada Peru is too warm. Southern Thule probably is cold enough but nobody lives there. Bouvet Island and Antarctica too. McMurdo Station meets 9 months and reaches over 1000 people in summer. Magadan stands out the most there because of its relatively low latitude, an April record high of 9.7C at sea level below 60N is horrifying. Interestingly Churchill, Manitoba at a similar latitude averages even colder in April (-5/-14) but the record high is as shockingly high as Magadan's is low at 28.2C, even though it obviously has lots of land to its south. |
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Post by nei on Sept 18, 2020 8:22:02 GMT -5
Magadan stands out the most there because of its relatively low latitude, an April record high of 9.7C at sea level below 60N is horrifying. Interestingly Churchill, Manitoba at a similar latitude averages even colder in April (-5/-14) but the record high is as shockingly high as Magadan's is low at 28.2C, even though it obviously has lots of land to its south. Churchill's latitude works against it; every now and then in summer I see a wave of muggy continental air reaching all the way to Churchill. Doesn't last long but dews in the mid 60s aren't very arctic feeling. Occasionally late spring, there are brief times when Churchill is more humid than here since the warm front hadn't time to go from eastwards. Looks like at least pre-covid I could take a train from here to Churchill, would need to stay overnight in a few places; but could be trains the whole way. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 7:13:36 GMT -5
Alaska is very beautiful, but climates like this have very few to no redeeming qualities. It's far too cold year-round. F.
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