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Post by Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Sept 27, 2020 19:54:12 GMT -5
I am not sure if this is weather-related so I’ll just post it here.
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Post by Iwantsnow on Sept 27, 2020 20:41:06 GMT -5
With two hemispheres and some places not getting fall color until late in the year think there is always somewhere with fall colors.
The earliest fall colors in the northern hemipshere would be in the northernmost places. Parts of Alaska get colors in August, and tundra climates get colors too. The high arctic of Canada and Russia might get some in late July. Tundra climates get fall colors, and they should get them earlier than places with trees. But eventually you reach a climate that can't support enough plants to have a color change.
The earliest trees changing color in the north should be August. Maybe the middle of August in the cold parts of Siberia.
Anyone have an actual source?
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Post by Mörön on Sept 27, 2020 20:43:54 GMT -5
Not sure about elsewhere in Canada but the Inuvik area is already well within "fall foliage season" in August. They have quite a bit of vegetation there, despite being near the Arctic ocean coast. Warm summers and all.
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Post by Ethereal on Sept 29, 2020 9:44:03 GMT -5
What about the belated fall colours?
Like here, we get them in June in the warmer years (and by July the trees would be bare).
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Post by boombo on Oct 15, 2020 7:48:15 GMT -5
I remember seeing a photo taken in Bournemouth by the south coast of England on New Year's Day one really mild year which had some autumn leaves still on the trees and daffodils coming out all in the same shot. I went to Lisbon in late November once too and the leaves were largely still green, so it's probably normal for them to have some autumn colours still around in January.
I don't know much about the Arctic but I can imagine the first leaves turning in early August, July is a bit of a stretch because if the summers are that short you'd think it wouldn't be worth the trees growing at all.
I guess February should be the only month where you couldn't see any autumn colours somewhere in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 10:41:10 GMT -5
Heck, even here in Wisconsin some leaves start turning in August. I wouldn't think August leaves in *fb climates would be that big of a deal.
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Post by caspase8 on Feb 22, 2021 3:05:51 GMT -5
I guess February should be the only month where you couldn't see any autumn colours somewhere in the world. I think Ushuaia or other subpolar South American cities would see autumn colours in February. There are also some trees near where I live in Melbourne that are already beginning to get autumn colours (as of Feb 22nd).
I'd imagine that there are autumn colours somewhere in the world all year round.
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Post by Ariete on Feb 22, 2021 6:37:02 GMT -5
Heck, even here in Wisconsin some leaves start turning in August. I wouldn't think August leaves in *fb climates would be that big of a deal.
The reason for yellow leaves in August are due to four possible factors: 1) fungi, 2) drought, 3) stress, 4) damage. They might look like autumn leaves, but they are not, but are yellow due to one or more of those four factors. Even in Nuorgam in Finland at 70N the real autumn foliage starts to show in early September, and peaks usually between 10 and 15 September.
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Post by alex992 on Feb 22, 2021 10:33:56 GMT -5
Heck, even here in Wisconsin some leaves start turning in August. I wouldn't think August leaves in *fb climates would be that big of a deal.
The reason for yellow leaves in August are due to four possible factors: 1) fungi, 2) drought, 3) stress, 4) damage. They might look like autumn leaves, but they are not, but are yellow due to one or more of those four factors. Even in Nuorgam in Finland at 70N the real autumn foliage starts to show in early September, and peaks usually between 10 and 15 September.
Plenty of subarctic places though that naturally start changing colors in August. The Interior of Alaska seems to peak in late August/early September for example, and places like Inuvik, NWT get fall colors in August as well. I would imagine places in Siberia like Verkhoyansk, Oymyakon, etc also see colors in August. Down here, the trees that go through seasonal changes tend to hold onto their "fall color" until about late December/early January, and then they're bare usually January and first half of February. Although on cooler than normal winters trees here can be totally bare from early December until early-mid March.
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Post by Ariete on Feb 22, 2021 11:44:41 GMT -5
Plenty of subarctic places though that naturally start changing colors in August. The Interior of Alaska seems to peak in late August/early September for example, and places like Inuvik, NWT get fall colors in August as well. I would imagine places in Siberia like Verkhoyansk, Oymyakon, etc also see colors in August. Down here, the trees that go through seasonal changes tend to hold onto their "fall color" until about late December/early January, and then they're bare usually January and first half of February. Although on cooler than normal winters trees here can be totally bare from early December until early-mid March.
Wisconsin isn't subarctic.
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Post by alex992 on Feb 22, 2021 11:45:26 GMT -5
Plenty of subarctic places though that naturally start changing colors in August. The Interior of Alaska seems to peak in late August/early September for example, and places like Inuvik, NWT get fall colors in August as well. I would imagine places in Siberia like Verkhoyansk, Oymyakon, etc also see colors in August. Down here, the trees that go through seasonal changes tend to hold onto their "fall color" until about late December/early January, and then they're bare usually January and first half of February. Although on cooler than normal winters trees here can be totally bare from early December until early-mid March.
Wisconsin isn't subarctic.
Thought you were speaking generally, sorry.
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Post by Ariete on Feb 22, 2021 11:53:55 GMT -5
Thought you were speaking generally, sorry.
Nah and NP, just referring to Wisconsin. Or Turku.
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Post by tommyFL on Feb 22, 2021 12:50:49 GMT -5
Anywhere with natural populations of bald cypress. For whatever reason, they start to turn orange in early August generally (sometimes even late July), but only in swamp populations it seems. Trees that have been planted in conditions that are too dry will have delayed fall leaf color.
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Post by jetshnl on Feb 22, 2021 16:18:15 GMT -5
Anywhere with natural populations of bald cypress. For whatever reason, they start to turn orange in early August generally (sometimes even late July), but only in swamp populations it seems. Trees that have been planted in conditions that are too dry will have delayed fall leaf color. Interesting, I thought it was the other way around. Dry falls the leaves drop faster. Last year we had a really dry fall compared to 2019 and leaves fell atleast 2 weeks earlier.
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Post by Speagles84 on Feb 23, 2021 7:58:45 GMT -5
The reason for yellow leaves in August are due to four possible factors: 1) fungi, 2) drought, 3) stress, 4) damage. They might look like autumn leaves, but they are not, but are yellow due to one or more of those four factors. Even in Nuorgam in Finland at 70N the real autumn foliage starts to show in early September, and peaks usually between 10 and 15 September.
Plenty of subarctic places though that naturally start changing colors in August. The Interior of Alaska seems to peak in late August/early September for example, and places like Inuvik, NWT get fall colors in August as well. I would imagine places in Siberia like Verkhoyansk, Oymyakon, etc also see colors in August. Down here, the trees that go through seasonal changes tend to hold onto their "fall color" until about late December/early January, and then they're bare usually January and first half of February. Although on cooler than normal winters trees here can be totally bare from early December until early-mid March. Alaska had near peak colors around September 1st when I was there (interior). Denali tundra was full peak (yes Tundra foliage is beautiful), but as you got closer to Anchorage it was more just changing - not full peak.
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Post by Iwantsnow on Feb 25, 2021 22:37:17 GMT -5
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Post by Steelernation on Feb 25, 2021 23:08:23 GMT -5
Fall colors in the mountains peaked mid September last year, not sure how that compares to normal.
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