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Post by FrozenI69 on Feb 1, 2021 18:18:59 GMT -5
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Post by Beercules on Feb 1, 2021 18:22:03 GMT -5
Ever heard of Wiki climate boxes?
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Post by omegaraptor on Feb 1, 2021 18:27:24 GMT -5
Surprisingly, Vancouver, WA is actually one of the most interesting places in the Portland metro for whatever reason. Whenever there's a thunderstorm it always seems to hit Vancouver.
Kent is easily more boring. Vancouver, WA also gets much more heat than anywhere in the UK.
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Post by ππΏMΓΆrΓΆnππΏ on Feb 1, 2021 18:28:17 GMT -5
Vancouver, WA is actually the tornado capital of the PNW. (not joking)
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Post by trolik on Feb 1, 2021 18:30:20 GMT -5
Surprisingly, Vancouver, WA is actually one of the most interesting places in the Portland metro for whatever reason. Whenever there's a thunderstorm it always seems to hit Vancouver. Kent is easily more boring. Vancouver, WA also gets much more heat than anywhere in the UK. oops thought it was vancouver bc for a sec before i saw this so i checked the data and yep vancouver wa is way better
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Post by Steelernation on Feb 1, 2021 18:35:34 GMT -5
No weatherbox, no vote
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Post by MET on Feb 1, 2021 18:54:26 GMT -5
If you're talking about interesting weather, then Kent easily wins.
Kent is one of the most thunder prone parts of the UK with 15-20 thunder days a year (about twice as much as the Portland area), gets some pretty good storms off the continent. I have relatives who live there who have actually livestreamed T-storms on skype before when I got nothing up here as usual. It does very well with snow showers in easterly winds. I'd rate it as substantially more interesting than Vancouver. Vancouver's climate is more comfortable with better summers and milder winters (with no snow), but more interesting? No chance.
Furthermore the Portland area has predictably wetter winters and drier summers which just by that alone, as compared with SE UK's more random rainfall pattern, makes it much less interesting.
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Post by MET on Feb 1, 2021 19:06:01 GMT -5
Surprisingly, Vancouver, WA is actually one of the most interesting places in the Portland metro for whatever reason. Whenever there's a thunderstorm it always seems to hit Vancouver. Kent is easily more boring. Vancouver, WA also gets much more heat than anywhere in the UK. Only for those who don't have a clue about its actual weather statistics as presented I've looked through NWS Climate data for Vancouver WA, and it averages just 7.0 thunderstorm days per annum in the most recent numbers of years. The most thundery year in recent years was 2018, with just 10 days. (Link: w2.weather.gov/climate/index.php?wfo=pqr ) I'm also collecting thunderstorm day records of the whole UK, and these are some recent years in places in Kent: Margate recorded 24 days with thunderstorm in 2014, 17 days in 2016, 16 in 2017. Average overall = 14.0. The lowest average of any Kent place is 11.0 thundestorm days per year, +4.0 more than Vancouver. As for snow, most of Kent averages 10-20 days per year with snow falling, 5-10 with lying snow (less than 2 in Vancouver). www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/learn-about/weather/types-of-weather/snow/snow-in-the-uk
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Post by Benfxmth on Feb 1, 2021 19:24:36 GMT -5
FrozenI69 You, or someone else should post climate boxes for both locations, as I'm kinda lazy right now lol
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Post by knot on Feb 1, 2021 19:31:25 GMT -5
How bout we just ban this useless sack of shit??
Did the fuckwit seriously try to insert a smiley in the title? That's some Lommo-tier retardation right there.
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Post by MET on Feb 1, 2021 19:36:09 GMT -5
Place in Kent 1:
Place in Kent 2:
Pathetic number of snow days in Vancouver. I mean really!
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Post by Steelernation on Feb 1, 2021 19:38:40 GMT -5
Kent for the dryness
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Post by Benfxmth on Feb 1, 2021 19:43:41 GMT -5
I may as well vote Vancouver for the warmer summers.
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Post by deneb78 on Feb 1, 2021 20:04:36 GMT -5
I prefer Vancouver, WA for the better summers. For the record, I will almost always pick an oceanic climate over a continental one at the same latitude. Continental climates are more garbage to me than oceanic to me.
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Post by Cadeau on Feb 4, 2021 14:46:50 GMT -5
Probably Vancouver for warmer shoulder seasons, both climates are far from being hetero.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 17:02:52 GMT -5
Surprisingly, Vancouver, WA is actually one of the most interesting places in the Portland metro for whatever reason. Whenever there's a thunderstorm it always seems to hit Vancouver. Kent is easily more boring. Vancouver, WA also gets much more heat than anywhere in the UK. Only for those who don't have a clue about its actual weather statistics as presented I've looked through NWS Climate data for Vancouver WA, and it averages just 7.0 thunderstorm days per annum in the most recent numbers of years. The most thundery year in recent years was 2018, with just 10 days. (Link: w2.weather.gov/climate/index.php?wfo=pqr ) I'm also collecting thunderstorm day records of the whole UK, and these are some recent years in places in Kent: Margate recorded 24 days with thunderstorm in 2014, 17 days in 2016, 16 in 2017. Average overall = 14.0. The lowest average of any Kent place is 11.0 thundestorm days per year, +4.0 more than Vancouver. As for snow, most of Kent averages 10-20 days per year with snow falling, 5-10 with lying snow (less than 2 in Vancouver). www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/learn-about/weather/types-of-weather/snow/snow-in-the-ukA rumble of thunder is counted as a "thunder day". Out of all that, there would barely be half a dozen actual thunderstorms in a normal year. I wouldn't be surprised if Yorkshire and Lincolnshire got more thunderstorms than the South East. Certainly in recent years anyway.
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Post by dunnowhattoputhere on Feb 5, 2021 17:05:37 GMT -5
Traditionally Kent is definitely the best place in the UK for thunderstorms (proximity to France probably being the main reason). In recent years though, thunderstorms have had a habit of dying out as they cross the English Channel. Not sure if thatβs had any impact on average thunder days though, or if Kent is a particularly good place for home-grown storms.
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Post by MET on Feb 5, 2021 17:18:44 GMT -5
Only for those who don't have a clue about its actual weather statistics as presented I've looked through NWS Climate data for Vancouver WA, and it averages just 7.0 thunderstorm days per annum in the most recent numbers of years. The most thundery year in recent years was 2018, with just 10 days. (Link: w2.weather.gov/climate/index.php?wfo=pqr ) I'm also collecting thunderstorm day records of the whole UK, and these are some recent years in places in Kent: Margate recorded 24 days with thunderstorm in 2014, 17 days in 2016, 16 in 2017. Average overall = 14.0. The lowest average of any Kent place is 11.0 thundestorm days per year, +4.0 more than Vancouver. As for snow, most of Kent averages 10-20 days per year with snow falling, 5-10 with lying snow (less than 2 in Vancouver). www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/learn-about/weather/types-of-weather/snow/snow-in-the-ukA rumble of thunder is counted as a "thunder day". Out of all that, there would barely be half a dozen actual thunderstorms in a normal year. I wouldn't be surprised if Yorkshire and Lincolnshire got more thunderstorms than the South East. Certainly in recent years anyway. Yes, the thunder day statistic is pretty standard over the world. On the NWS website the number "3" is used on that day when thunder was heard at the station (when one follows the link provided for the Portland area for example).
According to the study I'm doing, Lincolnshire averages 11-12 days with thunder, London area 15-18 days. They get a lot more weak thundery showers inc. in winter. When I lived in Lincolnshire some summer months could get a lot of thundery showers, but some had none at all, and nothing happened outside of summer. And Sheffield only gets 7 days a year. Out of all the thunder days here, about 2/3 or maybe 3/4, would be more than just a rumble of thunder, but single rumble of thunder events are easily missed, mind you.
This paragraph forms part of the conclusion in my study which I've nearly finished, when it's done I'll publish it hopefully:
"Overall findings in thunderstorm day frequency in England
The data from the study have been transformed into a colour coded map of England (Fig.1) showing annual thunderstorm day frequency at a resolution of two days, over the period 2012-2019. The data presented indicate that nowhere in England averages fewer than four or greater than twenty days with thunder per annum. The most thunder-prone area of England is the in-land south east, including London and the home counties particularly directly to the south and west of London, which average 15-18 thunder days per annum. The least thunder-prone area of England is the north-east coast, near the Scottish border, where thunder is heard on just 4-5 days per annum. "
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Post by MET on Feb 5, 2021 17:45:48 GMT -5
Also, I'll provide England thunder day/year averages stats by county from the study so far. As the study isn't fully compiled yet, some counties are not represented in this example, sorry.
Berkshire: 15.0 Buckinghamshire: 15.0 Cornwall: 7.2 Derbyshire: 9.0 Devon: 12.2 Gloucestershire: 11.0 City of London: 18.5 Manchester: 12.7 Hampshire: 12.1 Hertfordshire: 13.7 Kent: 12.5 Lancashire: 6.5 Lincolnshire: 11.0 North Yorkshire: 9.0 Northumberland: 4.5 Nottinghamshire: 9.5 Oxfordshire: 16.3 South Yorkshire: 8.5 Staffordshire: 8.0 Surrey: 15.5 Warwickshire: 10.9 West Midlands: 10.0 West Yorkshire: 8.6 Worcestershire: 10.7
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Post by knot on Feb 5, 2021 17:55:28 GMT -5
Also, I'll provide England thunder day/year averages stats by county from the study so far. As the study isn't fully compiled yet, some counties are not represented in this example, sorry. Berkshire: 15.0 Buckinghamshire: 15.0 Cornwall: 7.2 Derbyshire: 9.0 Devon: 12.2 Gloucestershire: 11.0 City of London: 18.5 Manchester: 12.7 Hampshire: 12.1 Hertfordshire: 13.7 Kent: 12.5 Lancashire: 6.5 Lincolnshire: 11.0 North Yorkshire: 9.0 Northumberland: 4.5 Nottinghamshire: 9.5 Oxfordshire: 16.3 South Yorkshire: 8.5 Staffordshire: 8.0 Surrey: 15.5 Warwickshire: 10.9 West Midlands: 10.0 West Yorkshire: 8.6 Worcestershire: 10.7 Very strong correlation with latitude; Northumberland by far the least.
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