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Post by Crunch41 on Feb 9, 2021 15:16:03 GMT -5
On the wiki page Climate of the United Kingdom, someone made this weatherbox with the monthly extremes for the country.  Would you rate this climate with extreme records higher than a normal UK climate? I would. I rate this box a C-. The extra variability compared to a normal climate in the UK brings up the grade, but it's still too oceanic and gloomy, with only a few warm or cold days. I'll take the occasional summer freeze for the occasional hot day. The climate looks similar to Glasgow but you can get similar temps much further south in Carlisle. These real climates are D or D+. Another idea: What if the record high/low shown here was the mean max and mean min? That means the average January sees a range of +18 to -17C (65 to -17F), and the average July a range of +39 to -3 (102 to 27F). Some months are even more extreme. I would rate this a D+, a lower grade, because of the hard freezes in most summer months. For a month with a 19C high to reach +39 there must be a lot of highs of 15 or less. Maybe a day of 39/22 and 8/-3 in the same month? Interesting, but not ideal. |
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Post by MET on Feb 9, 2021 15:17:56 GMT -5
Substantially worse than Sheffield. E-.
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Post by Benfxmth on Feb 9, 2021 15:18:17 GMT -5
An E+ from me
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Post by AJ1013 on Feb 9, 2021 15:20:27 GMT -5
Where did the average temps come from? The summers are a big problem.
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Post by tommyFL on Feb 9, 2021 15:40:17 GMT -5
D+. Would be a lot better if they weighted by population instead of area.
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Post by dunnowhattoputhere on Feb 9, 2021 16:20:48 GMT -5
The average UK climate is worse than where most people actually live.
D-
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Post by Steelernation on Feb 9, 2021 16:22:32 GMT -5
Still bad, E+
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Post by Strewthless on Feb 9, 2021 16:22:52 GMT -5
D-
This climate is further north and 200m higher than where 95% of people actually live.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 17:24:49 GMT -5
D. Worse than the majority of the inhabited UK.
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Post by Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Feb 9, 2021 17:40:57 GMT -5
A, A+ if it snows. Variability and averages are good.
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Post by P London on Feb 9, 2021 18:09:50 GMT -5
C, a bit boring despite the more variabilty
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Post by Kaleetan on Feb 9, 2021 20:31:33 GMT -5
Freeze recorded in every month = F
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Post by Beercules on Feb 9, 2021 21:05:38 GMT -5
F
hideous in every way
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Post by knot on Feb 10, 2021 3:10:45 GMT -5
C–
I'm gonna pretend the majority of that winter precip falls as snow with such extremely frigid records, so that's automatically upped my ratings.
Also, to all the folks saying "blah blah blah it doesn't represent where 95% of people live"…geography is ALWAYS preferrable to population—no excuses. Population means jack shit. Going by population, Sydney is the "average" NSW climate, which is downright idiotic (should be Forbes instead). Around the world, cities are almost always established in sheltered, leeward regions, and thus the "average" is skewed heavily towards warm and dry.
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Post by Speagles84 on Feb 10, 2021 8:49:31 GMT -5
D pretty bad. Warm in winter, sad summers, lots of drizzle. Livable and not super hot desert or tropical so it avoids the F or E
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Post by Crunch41 on Feb 10, 2021 13:42:21 GMT -5
I get weighing by area, it's a good way to find the "average" climate. But this climate box is not close to the middle of the UK.
It could exist east of Glasgow at 55.8N. 55.8 is nowhere near what I would call the middle of the UK. Wikipedia has an article on the centre points of the United Kingdom, and one spot is 54.09N 2.89W near Morecambe.
Just taking the extreme points and finding the middle of that box gives a rough idea of the middle of a country.
The mainland goes from 49.95 to 58.67N and 6.22W to 1.77E, so the median is 54.31N 2.23W near Hawes.
The entire UK goes from 60.85 to 49.85N, and 8.64W to 1.77E, giving 55.35N 3.43W near Moffat. But this gives too much weight to Shetland as there is very little land above 59N, mostly just water.
The US version of including Shetland would be counting Alaska and Hawaii. Then the country ranges from 18.91 to 71.39N and 172.44E to 66.95W, giving a median of 45.15N 127.26W which is in the Pacific Ocean near Portland.
*UK posters correct me if I'm wrong*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 16:36:24 GMT -5
The geographical centre of the UK is actually in Morecambe Bay.
The population weighted centre of the UK is near Leicester.
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Post by gordo on Feb 10, 2021 17:47:38 GMT -5
I'm going with a C. The rains pretty good and the temperatures aren't too bad. What I really don't like are the record lows while I would prefer more sunshine.
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Post by Cadeau on Feb 12, 2021 12:02:51 GMT -5
Grade B-. Slightly worse than the typical southern one-third of the English climates.
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