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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2021 18:39:13 GMT -5
I like it a lot - apart from the record lows. I’d have thought it would be too dry and cloudy for you. Too dry, yeah (outside the summer months), but 2349 sunshine hours is decent, about the same as here which is just fine for my standards. A sub-10 C record low in a summer month in what's supposed to be a tropical climate, or a 19 F record low for the year, is IMO more offensive than the lack of rain or sun. |
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Post by jgtheone on Jun 26, 2021 2:47:11 GMT -5
Since it's a tropical climate, I want it to feel tropical hence the heat. There is still a 'winter' precipitation pattern, as that is a must for me. There is the very outside chance of a frost each winter, but it very rarely happens so as to not kill the palms.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 5:53:45 GMT -5
Since it's a tropical climate, I want it to feel tropical hence the heat. There is still a 'winter' precipitation pattern, as that is a must for me. There is the very outside chance of a frost each winter, but it very rarely happens so as to not kill the palms. 3.67 - this officially now holds the record for Best Fictional Climate Ever Posted. It's even better than Solarea. Everything is awesome - except the winter frosts. Wow. Is there some way I can leave my shitty climate and just move there? |
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Post by Speagles84 on Jun 29, 2021 18:31:34 GMT -5
Create your dream tropical climate: No
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jun 29, 2021 20:40:23 GMT -5
Create your dream tropical climate: No Different strokes for different folks. It’s definitely not for everyone, especially polar foamers like you. No need to make one if you don’t want. This is a free country. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Jun 30, 2021 20:32:50 GMT -5
Create your dream tropical climate: No Ah cum ahn Sproggy Boy... This is the best I could come up with. No searing heat anywhere!  Might get a wee bit hot Jan-June but rain would be reliable enough. Under Köppen classification this is a tropical rainforest climate.   |
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Post by greysrigging on Jun 30, 2021 22:42:32 GMT -5
Rate this one. A bit on the dry side, so possibly a mid/lower altitude and/or inland site. Of course the rainfall patterns show a summer bias. Not recorded a temp below 0c, although light winter rains can cause the odd winter max temp below 18c. Can get occaisional extreme heat in the summer months. Mean temp coldest month ( July ) is 18.3c, hottest month ( Dec ) mean temp is 28.3c. Relative humidity is lower than one would expect for a tropical climate  |
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Post by knot on Jun 30, 2021 23:07:46 GMT -5
Made a few modifications to Mackay, QLD (21° S) for to achieve my "ideal" tropical climate; added 100 mm to every month, and reduced both the record and average maxima by 1° C likewise. Doesn't get better than this, realistically. In my system, the tropical threshold is > 16° C in all months (as opposed to the idiotic > 18° C), so yeah🖕🏻  |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jun 30, 2021 23:31:40 GMT -5
Rate this one. A bit on the dry side, so possibly a mid/lower altitude and/or inland site. Of course the rainfall patterns show a summer bias. Not recorded a temp below 0c, although light winter rains can cause the odd winter max temp below 18c. Can get occaisional extreme heat in the summer months. Mean temp coldest month ( July ) is 18.3c, hottest month ( Dec ) mean temp is 28.3c. Relative humidity is lower than one would expect for a tropical climate Similar to mine Greys. Good (as far as tropical climates go) but could use to be less hot in the wet. C |
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Post by greysrigging on Jul 1, 2021 1:36:43 GMT -5
Made a few modifications to Mackay, QLD (21° S) for to achieve my "ideal" tropical climate; added 100 mm to every month, and reduced both the record and average maxima by 1° C likewise. Doesn't get better than this, realistically. In my system, the tropical threshold is > 16° C in all months (as opposed to the idiotic > 18° C), so yeah🖕🏻 Thats not too bad....very close to an unmodified Yeppoon temps wise. Of course about 1800mm wetter tham Yeppoon. Or for the rainfall, like Cardwell further north, with a degree or so reduced both max and min would work for me. |
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Post by Shaheen Hassan on Jul 1, 2021 9:06:07 GMT -5
Made a few modifications to Mackay, QLD (21° S) for to achieve my "ideal" tropical climate; added 100 mm to every month, and reduced both the record and average maxima by 1° C likewise. Doesn't get better than this, realistically. In my system, the tropical threshold is > 16° C in all months (as opposed to the idiotic > 18° C), so yeah🖕🏻 This climate gets A+. A very good humid subtropical climate. I don't agree with your threshold for a tropical as sustained means of below 17.5°C can harm many tropical plants but not all of them. But this climate is still able to support a lush subtropical rainforest that looks very similar to a true tropical one. |
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Post by Marcelo on Jul 1, 2021 10:52:04 GMT -5
I don’t feel like making up a climate box, but it’d be like 23C in the warmest month and 18C in the coldest month, annual precipitation about 1500 mm and highly seasonal, with both the wet and dry seasons approaching both thermal extremes, for the sake of a bit of variation so we have a cooler dry season, a warmer dry season, a warmer wet season and a cooler wet season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2021 15:05:26 GMT -5
I made this a while back  Even though I despise Tropical climates for living in, this is a pretty cool climate. Good job. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2021 15:18:00 GMT -5
I made this one a while ago.  |
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Post by greysrigging on Jul 1, 2021 23:17:09 GMT -5
On the east coast of Queensland, I think most Aussies regard Mackay as about the latitude and climate of the real 'Tropics'. Angler has slightly cooled his ideal tropical climate using Mackay as a template. Oh and added a lot of rain, thats OK, it is the Tropics.
Sticking strictly to the OP's Koppen thingy of 18c mean in coolest month, Mackay is still slightly under, means for warmest month 27.3c, coolest month 17.3c at the meterological office, almost the same figures at the Airport 27.4c and 17.1c. Rainfall 1595.1mm and 1542.4mm
Further north along the coast....
Proserpine Aero 27.1c and 17.8c, rainfall per annum - 1443.7mm
Hammilton Island 27.3c and 18.8c, rainfall - 1466.5mm
Bowen Airport 27.7c and 18.9c, rainfall - 892.7mm
Alva Beach 27.9c and 19.3c, rainfall - 994.4mm
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jul 1, 2021 23:27:22 GMT -5
On the east coast of Queensland, I think most Aussies regard Mackay as about the latitude and climate of the real 'Tropics'. Angler has slightly cooled his ideal tropical climate using Mackay as a template. Oh and added a lot of rain, thats OK, it is the Tropics. Sticking strictly to the OP's Koppen thingy of 18c mean in coolest month, Mackay is still slightly under, means for warmest month 27.3c, coolest month 17.3c at the meterological office, almost the same figures at the Airport 27.4c and 17.1c. Rainfall 1595.1mm and 1542.4mm Further north along the coast.... Proserpine Aero 27.1c and 17.8c, rainfall per annum - 1443.7mm Hammilton Island 27.3c and 18.8c, rainfall - 1466.5mm Bowen Airport 27.7c and 18.9c, rainfall - 892.7mm Alva Beach 27.9c and 19.3c, rainfall - 994.4mm Ok, thanks for letting me know that Mackay is considered tropical by AU standards. I know that no isotherm is going to be perfect, people will always disagree. After all, I suppose climate is more of a continuum than something with hard borders. I just figured 18C was the most widely accepted, hence why I used it. I’ll let Angler’s climate slide anyway, this is not a competition or anything. Plus it gets wayyy to much rain anyway so it’s just as shitty if it met the criteria  |
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Post by greysrigging on Jul 2, 2021 0:47:48 GMT -5
Oh, Mackay is also about where it looks 'Tropical' as you head north from the Tropic of Capricorn at Rockhampton. Lots of greenery, coconuts and sugarcane.
Mackay is actually a bit cool for its latitude, being exposed on the coast to the cool south easterlies of the winter months. Places hundreds of klm south at Gladstone, even Bundaberg, have similar winters means to Mackay.
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Post by knot on Jul 2, 2021 0:50:26 GMT -5
Mackay is actually a bit cool for its latitude, being exposed on the coast to the cool south easterlies of the winter months. Places hundreds of klm south at Gladstone, even Bundaberg, have similar winters means to Mackay. I'd say it's rather the western longitude making Mackay cooler for its latitude. |
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Post by greysrigging on Jul 2, 2021 1:01:22 GMT -5
Mackay is actually a bit cool for its latitude, being exposed on the coast to the cool south easterlies of the winter months. Places hundreds of klm south at Gladstone, even Bundaberg, have similar winters means to Mackay. I'd say it's rather the western longitude making Mackay cooler for its latitude. Probably helps, although it is only 100 to 140 klm further west than Gladstone and Bundy. Its a windy prick of a place in winter months, we used to have a lot of down time due to rough seas when working on the coal load out jetties, same as at Abbott Point in Bowen. Mackay we used to get a few cloudy days in winter, kept things a bit cooler as well. |
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Post by CRISPR on Jan 5, 2024 15:58:19 GMT -5
Here's my random tropical highland climate (inspired by Guatemala City) that counts as tropical under Köppen  . It's a B+ in my system, because it is too warm and dry in winter and summers are too wet. Excluding the occasional hot days and warm night, you don't really need to AC (just a ceiling fan at most).   |
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. It's a B+ in my system, because it is too warm and dry in winter and summers are too wet. Excluding the occasional hot days and warm night, you don't really need to AC (just a ceiling fan at most). 
