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Post by greysrigging on Jul 2, 2021 6:32:28 GMT -5
So...East Coast Queensland. Where does the Tropics start ? No, not the 'sub tropics', the real tropics ? We mostly know what the Koppen definitians are. The Southern Hemisphere is somewhat milder than north of the Equator, so wondering what forum members regard as a 'tropical climate in the Southern Hemisphere, east coast Australia in particular. Brisbane north to Townsville on the East Coast. Brisbane  Maryborough  Bundaberg  Gladstone  Rockhampton  Mackay  Hammilton Island  Proserpine  Bowen    Alva Beach  Townsville  Cardwell  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2021 7:56:21 GMT -5
I'd say Alva Beach - and that I didn't realize how cool a lot of these places in winter are for the latitude.
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Post by FrozenI69 on Jul 2, 2021 9:48:23 GMT -5
Brisbane is tropical for me. Average highs above 70 F year round.
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Post by Metsfan257 on Jul 2, 2021 10:11:31 GMT -5
Hammilton Island is the beginning of the Aussie tropics in my opinion, going by the widely accepted Köppen definition of 18C means in the coolest month. Other climates south of that may have a tropical feel, but are not yet truly tropical. The east coast of Queensland is very comparable to Florida climate wise, with this tropical-semitropical continuum.
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Post by Cadeau on Jul 2, 2021 10:45:56 GMT -5
Hamilton Island or small towns located closer to the ocean a few km east of Prosperine may be good candidators. ( Preston and Conway Beach for example) |
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Post by Steelernation on Jul 2, 2021 11:45:45 GMT -5
Hammilton Island, that’s the first place >18 c
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Post by fæglèr on Jul 2, 2021 11:56:20 GMT -5
All of Australia is in the tropics.
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Post by chesternz on Jul 2, 2021 20:46:48 GMT -5
Gladstone, although it's marginally outside the tropics.
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Post by Ethereal on Jul 10, 2021 9:00:27 GMT -5
Either Alva Beach or Bowen. And Proserpine is on the transitional zone (some years are Cwa and others would be Aw).
Tropical, at least for me, should have a narrow temperature range throughout the year.
Brisbane still has relatively cool winters with chilly nights if one would go inland. So I don't see how that one fits the tropical bill.
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Post by deneb78 on Jul 18, 2021 22:19:47 GMT -5
Hamilton Island for the warm minimums. I think any tropical plant would have no problem growing and fruiting there.
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Post by chesternz on Jul 20, 2021 1:30:42 GMT -5
^ FWIW, I know they have healthy coconut palms growing in Brisbane / Gold Coast. Not sure about fruiting though.
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Post by knot on Jul 20, 2021 1:43:35 GMT -5
Rockhampton as it's just within the tropics. I'm not gonna base this boundary off of arbitrary temps.
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Post by greysrigging on Jul 20, 2021 5:19:06 GMT -5
Rockhampton as it's just within the tropics. I'm not gonna base this boundary off of arbitrary temps. Ahh, fair enough. But happy to base it off an arbitrary line in a map ? So Longreach, Alice Springs, Newman as well ? |
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Post by knot on Jul 20, 2021 5:45:39 GMT -5
Ahh, fair enough. But happy to base it off an arbitrary line in a map ? So Longreach, Alice Springs, Newman as well ? Pretty sure the tropics being at 23.5° S is because of something to do with the axial tilt of the Earth—so not exactly arbitrary. |
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Post by greysrigging on Jul 20, 2021 17:12:39 GMT -5
Ahh, fair enough. But happy to base it off an arbitrary line in a map ? So Longreach, Alice Springs, Newman as well ? Pretty sure the tropics being at 23.5° S is because of something to do with the axial tilt of the Earth—so not exactly arbitrary. Good answer, can't argue with that....haha So would you consider Miami as 'tropical', climate wise ? The climate data figures almost the same as Townsville despite being north of the Tropic of Cancer and some 700 klm further away from the Equator than Townsville ? |
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Post by knot on Jul 20, 2021 18:14:19 GMT -5
Good answer, can't argue with that....haha So would you consider Miami as 'tropical', climate wise ? The climate data figures almost the same as Townsville despite being north of the Tropic of Cancer and some 700 klm further away from the Equator than Townsville ? Temperature wise, easily. However Miami is not fundamentally tropical by any stretch of the imagination; cause and effect not evident. |
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Post by greysrigging on Jul 20, 2021 20:50:07 GMT -5
Good answer, can't argue with that....haha So would you consider Miami as 'tropical', climate wise ? The climate data figures almost the same as Townsville despite being north of the Tropic of Cancer and some 700 klm further away from the Equator than Townsville ? Temperature wise, easily. However Miami is not fundamentally tropical by any stretch of the imagination; cause and effect not evident. But if it looks like duck and quacks like a duck, fundamentally its likely to be a duck ? That's how I sorta justify in my mind Miami's 'tropicallity', despite its latitude. |
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Post by knot on Jul 20, 2021 23:40:13 GMT -5
But if it looks like duck and quacks like a duck, fundamentally its likely to be a duck ? That's how I sorta justify in my mind Miami's 'tropicallity', despite its latitude. What I'm really tryna say is that although Miami is climatically tropical, it's simply not in a tropical zone. This is shown clearly by its extreme variability when compared to true tropical climates. |
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Post by greysrigging on Jul 21, 2021 0:41:54 GMT -5
But if it looks like duck and quacks like a duck, fundamentally its likely to be a duck ? That's how I sorta justify in my mind Miami's 'tropicallity', despite its latitude. What I'm really tryna say is that although Miami is climatically tropical, it's simply not in a tropical zone. This is shown clearly by its extreme variability when compared to true tropical climates. 100% agree..... |
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Post by Beercules on Jul 22, 2021 9:27:59 GMT -5
Gladstone sounds about right.
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