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Post by greysrigging on Sept 14, 2021 5:14:15 GMT -5
Well.....we know pretty well what our old mate Koppen says......Generally Aussies and Americans ( and perhaps others around the world ) have differing views on 'Subtropicality' of a given location. What y'all reckon re these similar altitude and latitude climates in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres ? I have expressed my own opinions in the past re the Northern Hemisphere towns/cities as listed.....can't reconcile the 5 winter month means and extremes with the term 'subtropical'. Having said that, the 7 warmer months and rainfall certainly meet the criteria. Interested in all opinions..... Robinsville, North Carolina  Goulburn, NSW  Raleigh, North Carolina.   Nowra, NSW.  Asheville, North Carolina.   Braidwood, NSW  |
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Post by caspase8 on Sept 14, 2021 6:05:59 GMT -5
The only subtropical one is Nowra. Generally I consider a climate to be subtropical if it has at least 6 months with a mean of above 17C and a coolest monthly mean of at least 6C.
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Post by Cadeau on Sept 14, 2021 18:07:07 GMT -5
Following Trewartha's 8 months โฅ10ยฐC criteria?
Robinsville, NC: โ
Goulburn, NSW: โ (Almost; 0.2ยฐC shy of the 8th warmest month)
Raleigh, NC: โ๏ธ
Nowra, NSW: โ๏ธ
Asheville, NC: โ
Braidwood, NSW: โ (Likely to be qualified in the next decades)
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Following John F. Griffiths' coldest month mean โฅ6ยฐC criteria?
Robinsville, NC: โ
Goulburn, NSW: โ๏ธ (Exactly 6ยฐC)
Raleigh, NC: โ (Likely to be qualified in the next decades)
Nowra, NSW: โ๏ธ
Asheville, NC: โ
Braidwood, NSW: โ (Likely to be qualified in the next decades)
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Post by AJ1013 on Sept 14, 2021 18:15:00 GMT -5
I'd classify all the american ones as subtropical, none of the aussie ones. Nowra is close though. Robinsville is also borderline.
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Post by Beercules on Sept 14, 2021 18:29:58 GMT -5
Nowra is easily more subtropical than Robbinsville.
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Post by AJ1013 on Sept 14, 2021 18:33:17 GMT -5
Nowra is easily more subtropical than Robbinsville. It's not. Those summers are weak af. |
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Post by Beercules on Sept 14, 2021 19:05:13 GMT -5
Nowra is easily more subtropical than Robbinsville. It's not. Those summers are weak af. Actually it is, you niglet. Only a mongoloid would need an explanation as to why. I trust you are not a mongoloid. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 19:13:14 GMT -5
Nowra for me - closest to the usual ski/citrus thing.
Also familiar with Nowra, and Tommerong in particular, and muchly impressed by the climate of the whole South Coast/Snowy Mountain region - I would live somewhere in that region, If I was ever to not live in NZ.
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Post by psychedamike24 on Sept 14, 2021 19:49:04 GMT -5
Following Trewartha's 8 months โฅ10ยฐC criteria?Robinsville, NC: โ Goulburn, NSW: โ (Almost; 0.2ยฐC shy of the 8th warmest month) Raleigh, NC: โ๏ธ Nowra, NSW: โ๏ธ Asheville, NC: โ Braidwood, NSW: โ (Likely to be qualified in the next decades) - Following John F. Griffiths' coldest month mean โฅ6ยฐC criteria?Robinsville, NC: โ Goulburn, NSW: โ๏ธ (Exactly 6ยฐC) Raleigh, NC: โ (Likely to be qualified in the next decades) Nowra, NSW: โ๏ธ Asheville, NC: โ Braidwood, NSW: โ (Likely to be qualified in the next decades) So only Nowra, NSW basically. It's the only one that satisfies my coldest month mean โฅ10ยฐC criterion, while also having a mean temperature of the warmest 6 months above 18ยฐC. |
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Post by ๐๐ฟMรถrรถn๐๐ฟ on Sept 14, 2021 20:10:11 GMT -5
these climates all suck ass but will go with Robinsville for colder lows in winter. Summers are decent too.
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Post by Steelernation on Sept 14, 2021 20:22:06 GMT -5
Iโd say all but Braidwood and Goulburn are subtropical.
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Sept 14, 2021 20:24:13 GMT -5
Humid subtropical climates (type Bfa) in my system require a coldest month mean temp at least 40F, hottest month mean temp of at least 75F, and at least 20" of rainfall lacking a significant dry season. Warm oceanic climates (type Bfb) are also a form of subtropical climate, same as the previous definition except with milder summers.
Just Raleigh and the Aussie ones are subtropical in my classification system (although Raleigh is the only classic subtropical climate of the bunch, as in one with hot summers). Not Robbinsville/Asheville, for winters are too chilly and thus they would be classified as warm temperate (type Cfa).
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Post by knot on Sept 15, 2021 1:35:20 GMT -5
Raleigh just manages to meet my subtropical threshold, and Nowra is archetypically subtropical. Love these sorta threads! |
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Post by knot on Sept 15, 2021 1:36:37 GMT -5
It's not. Those summers are weak af. You can't seriously be that |
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Post by AJ1013 on Sept 15, 2021 1:38:31 GMT -5
It's not. Those summers are weak af. You can't seriously be that Nowra could go either way imo (subtropical/oceanic) |
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Post by Speagles84 on Sept 15, 2021 6:48:29 GMT -5
Nowra and Goldburn are the true subtropical climates from my perspective - having no monthly lows below freezing. The others are hot temperate. Raleigh JUST misses the cut off mark for me. Surely it will by the 2001-2030 averages - thought it would this time.
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Post by Benfxmth on Sept 15, 2021 6:51:51 GMT -5
I'd say Nowra is subtropical. Raleigh too but it's near the cool end of the subtropical spectrum IMO
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Post by trolik on Sept 15, 2021 18:30:15 GMT -5
Easy peasy - Nowra
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 21:33:30 GMT -5
You can't seriously be that Nowra could go either way imo (subtropical/oceanic) Don't you regard year round frontal systems as typically Oceanic? - Nowra shows two rainfall peaks plus higher higher sunshine percentages and clear days in winter, that are indicative of thedryer winter subtropical climates north from Nowra. |
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Post by Ethereal on Sept 17, 2021 1:23:25 GMT -5
You can't seriously be that Nowra could go either way imo (subtropical/oceanic) Nowra easily fits as a suburb in the eastern and inner western suburbs of Sydney. If that isn't subtropical then half of Sydney is not subtropical. Come on. |
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