Stupid shit people say about the weather

The AU media does the same thing.... either a 'mini tornado' and more foolishly, a 'mini cyclone'.
Generally this happens becauce no one in AU thinks we get actual 'real' tornados aka the united States.....

People take Groundhog Day seriously?

Whoever says this is not from SoCal

^^ An answer to some 'cookers'....
( source: Andrew Tupper )
"Righto, rant warning ahead. For disclosure, I used to work in various senior positions in the Bureau, but nothing below should be implied in any sense as Bureau comment.
1) Firstly, this general topic drives me a little nuts. The climate of any place in Australia is usually very well known, and reasonable adjustments can also be made for climate change when planning ahead. Seasonal, monthly, fortnightly, and 7 day forecasts are all available and are all increasing in skill. The onus is on event organisers to plan accordingly, including to work out ways to hold events safely and successfully in a range of conditions. So last minute announcements that reflect that somebody didn't believe the weather forecast until it happened really do need to be called out sometimes. Sometimes, all you're seeing is that somebody was simply in denial until their reality check, and then found that it was too late to adapt their plan.
2) However, cancellation might still have to happen sometimes (lightning, catastrophic bushfire conditions, tropical cyclones, and severe storms for example, are very hard for outdoor events). Sometimes the forecasts were wrong (just not as often as you might think....). Sometimes we can't see the issues that organisers are dealing with, including pressure from emergency services, who rightly don't want to tie up resources looking after festival goers when they have other crises to deal with.
3) No, the Bureau does not write forecasts to suit any particular narrative. The job of the forecasters is to get the forecast as right as possible, and if they don't, the verification stats will reflect that. These stats are given in annual reports and on pages like this one: www.bom.gov.au/inside/forecast-accuracy.shtml
4) Just in case somebody was about to say this.... no, climate change is not made up, and observations are not altered to suit a narrative either. Nor does the Bureau modify the weather using cloud seeding, contrails, radar or other forms of electromagnetic radiation, rain dances or lasers to help verify the forecast, punish people for how they voted or help giant space lizards take over the government. Hopefully that's clear.
5) Heat waves do kill people and should change our behaviour. The heat wave definition developed in Australia through the work of John Nairn and others, and used in heat wave warnings, is world's best practice. Under this, what constitutes a heat wave varies from place to place depending on what is normal for that place
6) Please use apps that carry the official forecasts and warnings. What is the point of training meteorologists at university and them employing them in taxpayer-funded roles to provide the best possible services, if we then use an app that is spitting out unverified numerical model output without any accountability or quality control? The forecast for Melb today is still 37, and the obs are still tracking towards that. If it's wrong, we can have that debate about public executions (or not) of the accountable people, rather than a random app writer.
hopefully that covers a few of the relevant topics here!

but this is generally true for the populated areas of SoCal. And this is coming from someone who has family down there and has visited many times in every season, including the dead of winter.

Coastal locations like Los Angeles and San Diego basically never get frost, but you're right, areas a little ways away from the water do get occasional frosts, including the inland empire where my Grandma used to live.


For me, anything 60F or warmer is shorts weather, and it doesn't matter what the weather conditions are. Winter is the wet season in SoCal, and while there will be some rainy days that fail to reach the 60s, there are A LOT of dry, pleasant days. At least that's what I've experienced in the inland empire, LA and San Diego. 

Same thing with Palm Springs (A true hot desert climate) which gets even less winter rain than the other side of the San Jacinto mountains. 

So, yeah, not every day will be shorts and t-shirt weather but dry days with 60s and 70sF highs are indeed a common occurrence in lowland Southern California. 

Castrate these cretins, grill their genitalia, and force feed it to them. Make sure the internal temp is 62.3C for that perfect medium raretard.

Furthermore, the temps/dewpoints were well below what would create those heat indices based on nearby official METAR sites near it using the sensible NWS heat index. Those fucken cancer cells really need to be put out of their misery already don't they

Rio de Janeiro (state) - The Absolute Champion of Brazilian Heat

The station is a fan-aspirated Davis station (the Golden Standard).