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Post by carr on Jan 1, 2022 0:23:53 GMT -5
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Post by carr on Jan 1, 2022 0:44:06 GMT -5
China doesn’t seem to get the Arctic intrusions in their southern provinces like America does. I like that China had a broader range of climates than the USA. China has 18 koppen climates, compared to the contiguous USA's 26, so you're wrong here. It's fairly common knowledge that the US has the broader range of climates - China is without any hot desert or mediterranean and oceanic climates, all of which the US has - everything else, the US and China both have. And China does get arctic intrusions in it's southern provinces - it's called the Siberian anticyclone - China's southern provinces have overall colder average highs, similar to slightly higher average lows, and are less capable of seeing the kind of extended winter warmth that the southern US does. China is colder for it's latitude relative to the US, which sees warmer winter temperatures on average. The propensity for warmer maxima in the US offsets the colder minima, and evens out with China's propensity for colder winter averages. |
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Post by carr on Jan 1, 2022 0:55:29 GMT -5
China has 18 koppen climates, compared to the contiguous USA's 26, so you're wrong here. It's fairly common knowledge that the US has the broader range of climates - China is without any hot desert or mediterranean and oceanic climates, all of which the US has - everything else, the US and China both have. And China does get arctic intrusions in it's southern provinces - it's called the Siberian anticyclone - China's southern provinces have overall colder average highs, similar to slightly higher average lows, and are less capable of seeing the kind of extended winter warmth that the southern US does. China is colder for it's latitude relative to the US, which sees warmer winter temperatures on average. The propensity for warmer maxima in the US offsets the colder minima, and evens out with China's propensity for colder winter averages. Very interesting, I had thought by reading posts on another forum (city data) that China was warmer than the USA in relation to climate variety. USA does span a fairly large latitude range so I guess it makes sense in the number of climates featured there. Does USA have subtropical climates which don’t get Arctic cold like China has? The US has subtropical climates, which are not defined by "arctic cold", hence the climate classification of it's southeastern region. The southeast doesn't get "arctic cold"...? As was pointed out, China has subtropical climates that have colder average highs than their American counterparts, with mostly comparable average lows. Mean minima are colder in the US, while the mean maximums are warmer. For all intents and purposes, the subtropical climate regions in the US and China have features of susceptibility to cold in their south that cancel each other out when comparing the two (propensity for colder averages, less extended winter warmth, and less sunlight - China, propensity for colder minima and records and an overall higher diurnal range - the USA). |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jan 1, 2022 1:20:48 GMT -5
This is a battle between 2 climatic hellhole regions. I’ll take the US regions for having drier summers.
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Post by jetshnl on Jan 1, 2022 1:27:40 GMT -5
This is a battle between 2 climatic hellhole regions. I’ll take the US regions for having drier summers. These climates you favour do not promote summer vegetation growth though. East is best when it comes to southern USA climates. |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jan 1, 2022 1:31:17 GMT -5
This is a battle between 2 climatic hellhole regions. I’ll take the US regions for having drier summers. These climates you favour do not promote summer vegetation growth though. East is best when it comes to southern USA climates. This battle isn’t between SE and SW US, it’s between 2 US states and a Chinese province. Anyway, I don’t like summer vegetation growth. Grass should go golden brown in summer. |
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Post by tij on Jan 1, 2022 11:05:05 GMT -5
Southern Heilongjiang is closer to North Dakota and NW Minnesota than to Maine-- it's more continental, drier, and sunnier during the winter: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Forks,_North_Dakota#Climate is a better match to Harbin than Portland ME (which is more like Sapporo, JPN but with more sun and less snow). Anchorage is also an odd comparison to Mohe-- southern coastal Alaska has too much marine influence to be similar to Heilongjiang, it's much more like Norway or the Kurils. Think Fairbanks is a better match, but less continental. |
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Post by chesternz on Jan 1, 2022 11:16:30 GMT -5
Hmmm hard to say. Could we maybe narrow it down to a battle between two cities? Of the three regions, Maine is probably the most balanced (relatively mild winters and warmish summers). Heilongjiang can be brutally cold and the summers are barely warmer than Maine for the most part. On the other hand, Alaska can be just as brutal and summers are very marginal at best. Not to mention their "mild" winter climates (Aleutians, Panhandle, etc.) have no summers at all and are dominated by horrible freezing rain for most of the year.
Regarding the "notable cities", I would rank them: Portland > Harbin > Anchorage > Mohe.
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Post by carr on Jan 1, 2022 22:01:23 GMT -5
Southern Heilongjiang is closer to North Dakota and NW Minnesota than to Maine-- it's more continental, drier, and sunnier during the winter: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Forks,_North_Dakota#Climate is a better match to Harbin than Portland ME (which is more like Sapporo, JPN but with more sun and less snow). Anchorage is also an odd comparison to Mohe-- southern coastal Alaska has too much marine influence to be similar to Heilongjiang, it's much more like Norway or the Kurils. Think Fairbanks is a better match, but less continental. This is a part of a series of comparisons I wanted to do - I was waiting to compare the likes of North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan to the large Inner Mongolia province of China. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Jan 6, 2022 3:00:15 GMT -5
Definitely Alaska/Maine is superior to anything in China.
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 8, 2022 22:59:32 GMT -5
1 climate from each would be a better comparison. There’s a massive difference between Portland, ME and Barrow, AK and a big diversity of climates within Alaska. Very hard to compare when there’s so many different climates.
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Post by CRISPR on Feb 28, 2024 14:39:41 GMT -5
Portland > Harbin >> Anchorage > Mohe
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