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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jan 22, 2022 23:51:51 GMT -5
From an earlier shoutbox discussion, I decided to create a dream climate within the parameters that it must be köppen continental (that is, with the coldest month minima below 32F/0C). This is the best a continental climate can possibly be IMO, and I'll give it a B+. The winters are quite short, with a decent amount of cold rain and the occasional snowy spell, though record lows are not extreme. December is the coldest month by a longshot, with quite a bit of seasonal lead. The springs warm up rapidly and are by far the wettest season. Precipitation drops off sharply in June-July, then comes back in the stable late summer and fall months, which feature a rapid cooldown back to winter in December. Not the most realistic climate, but whatever. |
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 22, 2022 23:55:05 GMT -5
D+. Quite boring and the precipitation pattern is shitty but not terrible. Average temps are pretty good and at least the precipitation days aren’t too high.
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Post by caspase8 on Jan 23, 2022 0:06:44 GMT -5
I'll give it a C+. It would be a great climate without that summer dry season.
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Post by Ethereal on Jan 23, 2022 0:50:32 GMT -5
Like somewhere in northwestern Turkey or in Oregon. Why didn't you include the sunshine hours?
D. Beautiful summers. Winters are too cool and rainy.
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Post by Ariete on Jan 23, 2022 5:54:38 GMT -5
From an earlier shoutbox discussion, I decided to create a dream climate within the parameters that it must be köppen continental (that is, with the coldest month minima below 32F/0C).
No, the monthly mean must be below 0C...
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Post by Speagles84 on Jan 23, 2022 8:17:20 GMT -5
From an earlier shoutbox discussion, I decided to create a dream climate within the parameters that it must be köppen continental (that is, with the coldest month minima below 32F/0C).
No, the monthly mean must be below 0C...
(26.9F + 37.0)/2 = 31.95F 31.95 < 32.0 Fahrenheit for the win. |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jan 23, 2022 9:13:42 GMT -5
From an earlier shoutbox discussion, I decided to create a dream climate within the parameters that it must be köppen continental (that is, with the coldest month minima below 32F/0C).
No, the monthly mean must be below 0C...
Even in Celsius the December monthly mean is below 0C. The wikibox rounds the values in Celsius only to the tenths place. In reality, the average high is 2.778C while the average low is -2.833C. |
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Post by Ariete on Jan 23, 2022 9:17:38 GMT -5
Even in Celsius the December monthly mean is below 0C. The wikibox rounds the values in Celsius only to the tenths place. In reality, the average high is 2.778C while the average low is -2.833C.
It is yes.
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Post by alex992 on Jan 23, 2022 12:46:45 GMT -5
About as shitty as it gets for a continental climate (minus the likes of Turpan and other similar climates).
Still not horrible, D-. Diurnal ranges are too small, not enough snow or continentality, too much seasonal lead in the cold season, and shoulder seasons are too warm, and wtf is up with the record lows being so close to the average lows? That's terrible. Looks like very very little negative variability in winter, which is a big deal to me.
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Post by ilmc90 on Jan 23, 2022 21:23:06 GMT -5
C-
Quite boring but not bad outside of summer.
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jan 23, 2022 22:15:31 GMT -5
About as shitty as it gets for a continental climate (minus the likes of Turpan and other similar climates). Still not horrible, D-. Diurnal ranges are too small, not enough snow or continentality, too much seasonal lead in the cold season, and shoulder seasons are too warm, and wtf is up with the record lows being so close to the average lows? That's terrible. Looks like very very little negative variability in winter, which is a big deal to me. Negative variability in winter can get fucked. This climate is still hardiness zone 8b and has a whopping 10 freeze free months, which I like. Decent palm potential and longer growing season. |
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Post by alex992 on Jan 23, 2022 22:19:34 GMT -5
About as shitty as it gets for a continental climate (minus the likes of Turpan and other similar climates). Still not horrible, D-. Diurnal ranges are too small, not enough snow or continentality, too much seasonal lead in the cold season, and shoulder seasons are too warm, and wtf is up with the record lows being so close to the average lows? That's terrible. Looks like very very little negative variability in winter, which is a big deal to me. Negative variability in winter can get fucked. This climate is still hardiness zone 8b and has a whopping 10 freeze free months, which I like. Decent palm potential and longer growing season. I don't think you realize that very little negative variability but strong upwards variability means it'll be below average most of the time. Palm trees won't do well when it's constantly 35/25 in December but the occasional 50-60 F day. Hardiness isn't the only thing to look at for palm tree success. Hours/time spent in cold temps are important as well. This climate would only grow cold hardy palms. |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Jan 23, 2022 22:20:36 GMT -5
Negative variability in winter can get fucked. This climate is still hardiness zone 8b and has a whopping 10 freeze free months, which I like. Decent palm potential and longer growing season. I don't think you realize that very little negative variability but strong upwards variability means it'll be below average most of the time. Palm trees won't do well when it's constantly 35/25 in December but the occasional 50-60 F day. Hardiness isn't the only thing to look at for palm tree success. Hours/time spent in cold temps are important as well. This climate would only grow cold hardy palms. Correct. And growing cold hardy palms is exponentially better than growing none at all. Face it, extreme cold is useless and harmful, not to mention uncomfortable. |
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Post by alex992 on Jan 23, 2022 22:29:37 GMT -5
I don't think you realize that very little negative variability but strong upwards variability means it'll be below average most of the time. Palm trees won't do well when it's constantly 35/25 in December but the occasional 50-60 F day. Hardiness isn't the only thing to look at for palm tree success. Hours/time spent in cold temps are important as well. This climate would only grow cold hardy palms. Correct. And growing cold hardy palms is exponentially better than growing none at all. Face it, extreme cold is useless and harmful, not to mention uncomfortable. Even cold hardy palms would likely struggle with the lack of warmth. Eh, a climate that averages 37/26 in the coldest month wouldn't get extremely cold even with a lot of downwards variability, maybe once every 30 years or something. |
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Post by tij on Jan 23, 2022 22:34:06 GMT -5
B, winter is a bit boring and has too moderated temps, especially late winter, want to have frosts outside of dec-jan and reach the teens and single digits F at least at times. Summer is a pinch warm in july and on the dry side but otherwise good. Should include sunshine but presuming it's not poor. Sorta like a modified version of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont%C3%A9limar#Climate. |
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Post by Benfxmth on Jan 24, 2022 8:28:53 GMT -5
B(–), summers aren't far off from mine (especially July).
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Post by CRISPR on Feb 27, 2024 14:27:38 GMT -5
C+. I like the seasonal lead and relatively long spring. Could be better with more rainfall in summer
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Post by Cheeseman on Feb 27, 2024 23:29:56 GMT -5
Decent for a continental shithole, C+.
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