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Post by Bear on Nov 1, 2022 17:58:22 GMT -5
Sure it can. Alaskan panhandle, Norwegian coast, some high altitude mountainslopes...
If there's lush, dense forest and undergrowth...it's simply not 'subarctic'. Look at images of beech Mountain - barely any trees on and around the summit, let alone anything approaching a 'rainforest'! -proves my point en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_temperate_rainforest
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Post by lancerman on Nov 1, 2022 18:01:11 GMT -5
Are you aware of the elevation gradient? - evidently not!
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Post by Ariete on Nov 1, 2022 18:25:13 GMT -5
If there's lush, dense forest and undergrowth...it's simply not 'subarctic'. Look at images of beech Mountain - barely any trees on and around the summit, let alone anything approaching a 'rainforest'! -proves my point
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Post by lancerman on Nov 1, 2022 18:28:43 GMT -5
And what does the climate itself look like? Approximate site.
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Post by Ariete on Nov 1, 2022 18:50:08 GMT -5
And what does the climate itself look like? Approximate site.
Looks like a cold fucken rainforest.
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Post by lancerman on Nov 1, 2022 18:54:20 GMT -5
Looks like a cold fucken rainforest.
... I meant the stats
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Post by Steelernation on Nov 1, 2022 19:37:38 GMT -5
Temperate rainforest is the biome, subarctic is the climate, obvious that you can connect the two in a label.
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Post by lancerman on Nov 1, 2022 20:29:56 GMT -5
Temperate rainforest is the biome, subarctic is the climate, obvious that you can connect the two in a label. So any climate ...can be linked with 'rainforest'? What next, 'polar rainforest'? Where do you draw the line? Oh and subarctic can also be considered a biome.
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Post by lancerman on Nov 1, 2022 20:33:02 GMT -5
Oh and one more thing. Did literally any one of you actually read the link that 'Bear" posted? Temperate rainforest. Nowhere in the link is there any mention of subarctic, or of the high peaks of the Appalachians being 'subarctic'.
'Subarctic rainforests' don't exist. Not with a real subarctic climate.
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Post by Steelernation on Nov 1, 2022 21:19:14 GMT -5
So any climate ...can be linked with 'rainforest'? What next, 'polar rainforest'? Where do you draw the line? Oh and subarctic can also be considered a biome. Donโt be dense, any place with a super lush rainforest landscape can be, ie tropical, subtropical, temperature, subarctic. Polar places canโt even grow trees so obviously not a rainforest. And check out southeast Alaska, subarctic climate but clearly a rainforest biome.
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Post by lancerman on Nov 1, 2022 21:21:11 GMT -5
Donโt be dense, any place with a super lush rainforest landscape can be, ie tropical, subtropical, temperature, subarctic. Polar places canโt even grow trees so obviously not a rainforest. And check out southeast Alaska, subarctic climate but clearly a rainforest biome. Then show me some of those SE Alaskan climates in a supposed rainforest biome.
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Post by Steelernation on Nov 1, 2022 21:29:57 GMT -5
Then show me some of those SE Alaskan climates in a supposed rainforest biome. Near Juneau
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Post by lancerman on Nov 1, 2022 21:31:40 GMT -5
Not really that lush is it
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Post by Steelernation on Nov 1, 2022 21:35:02 GMT -5
Not really that lush is it Yeah it is and has dense undergrowth The southeast Alaska rainforest is well known
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Post by lancerman on Nov 1, 2022 21:42:26 GMT -5
Yeah it is and has dense undergrowth The southeast Alaska rainforest is well knownOkay yeah those pictures do a lot more justice. Though I prefer 'cool rainforest' over 'subarctic' ...subarctic implies lack of life.
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Post by Ariete on Nov 2, 2022 8:19:36 GMT -5
Okay yeah those pictures do a lot more justice. Though I prefer 'cool rainforest' over 'subarctic' ...subarctic implies lack of life.
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Post by lancerman on Nov 2, 2022 15:10:55 GMT -5
Uh it very clearly is lol
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Nov 2, 2022 16:29:45 GMT -5
Southport for being subtropical, while the other is a subarctic rainforest Oxymoron. Can't be a 'rainforest' if it's too cold for anything to grow half the damn year. Beech Mountain is in the high altitudes of the Appalachians, where the climate is easily rainy enough and vegetation lush enough to be labelled a rainforest. However, by kรถppen, yes, Beech Mountain is technically still within the cold temperate zone. Subarctic rainforests do actually occur though, such as in SE Alaska, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutat,_Alaska#Climate
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Post by lancerman on Nov 2, 2022 16:33:55 GMT -5
Beech Mountain is in the high altitudes of the Appalachians, where the climate is easily rainy enough and vegetation lush enough to be labelled a rainforest. However, by kรถppen, yes, Beech Mountain is technically still within the cold temperate zone. Subarctic rainforests do actually occur though, such as in SE Alaska, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutat,_Alaska#Climate Those Alaskan rainforests are still a temperate biome, albeit of a colder flavour. Definitely not 'subarctic'. Subarctic = taiga, barren grassland, moorland etc. Not dense rainforests.
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Nov 2, 2022 16:35:15 GMT -5
Beech Mountain is in the high altitudes of the Appalachians, where the climate is easily rainy enough and vegetation lush enough to be labelled a rainforest. However, by kรถppen, yes, Beech Mountain is technically still within the cold temperate zone. Subarctic rainforests do actually occur though, such as in SE Alaska, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutat,_Alaska#Climate Those Alaskan rainforests are still a temperate biome, albeit of a colder flavour. Definitely not 'subarctic'. Subarctic = taiga, barren grassland, moorland etc. Not dense rainforests. They are subarctic, even at sea level, by kรถppen at least. They only have 3 months with means of 50F+, below the required 4 to avoid subarcticity.
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