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Post by massiveshibe on Aug 14, 2023 18:54:53 GMT -5
What's the coldest place you can life without heating?
I have lived my entire life in an oceanic climate without heating. The average day winter day here is a high of 15C and low of 2C There are a handful days with nights of -5C and highs of 0C.
I don't know the coldest place I can live without heating, but I have spent a June in Southern Patagonia without heating. Most days I experienced there were lows of -1C and highs of 5C, and the coldest was -14C with a high of -6C as far as I can remember. Besides, the humidity was very high (over 80% most of the time) and it the sky was fully overcast almost every day.
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Post by paddy234 on Aug 14, 2023 19:57:06 GMT -5
I don't think I could live without Heating outside the tropics and I'm from Ireland so should be used to the cold lol. In reality houses in Northern Europe are so well built to manage the cold that we never had to get used to the cold as indoors was always 20°C+ in every room. It wasn't till I went to Christchurch, New Zealand where it was common to have just one heatpump/aircon unit for an entire house meaning outside of the area where this unit heated it was absolutely freezing lol. People there were used to it as they just layered on the clothes indoors so I suppose it depends what luxuries people are used to
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Post by MET on Aug 14, 2023 20:29:18 GMT -5
I lived in a building without central heating in 2017. It was shit. This is the indoor temps data for the lounge that year:  |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Aug 14, 2023 22:43:05 GMT -5
I'd never want to live anywhere with a coldest month mean below 62ºF, or what I consider tropical, without heating. I still like indoor temps in winter in the upper 60s, and needing to bundle up indoors would be miserable honestly.
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Post by greysrigging on Aug 14, 2023 23:17:38 GMT -5
I did a winter working in Brisbane in 1997.... gotta say I struggled with the cold nights.... The boss had rented an old weatherboard Queenslander house with not one iota of insulation or heating in tbe place. The days were around 18c to 24c...pleasant enough outdoors in the sun, but the old house never really warmed up, then as the mins dropped mid winter to sub 10c and then sub 5c.... 'twas fucken chilly... lol ! Mins that winter May-Sept:   I can still remember the landlord coming around to pick up the rent, and we had the fan forced oven on set to 'Simpson Desert Level' and the oven door open blasting out warm air into the kitchen and living room area... the look on his face was priceless...lol |
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Post by Steelernation on Aug 14, 2023 23:25:23 GMT -5
No clue what the outdoor temps are when my heat comes on so not sure. Certainly wouldn’t in any place with cold winters
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Post by fairweatherfan on Aug 14, 2023 23:27:47 GMT -5
We went without heating for a winter in the Bay Area when I was a kid, after we had moved into a new house. It was certainly tolerable, we used space heaters as well, but I wouldn’t prefer doing it again. I didn’t really mind it back then though, thought it was normal
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Post by srfoskey on Aug 15, 2023 0:20:02 GMT -5
Similar to the AC post, can and would willingly are two different things. You can camp (and thus presumably live) in temperatures well below 0°F (-18°C) with sufficient clothing and sleeping bags, but the coldest place I'd willingly live without heat is maybe San Diego.
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Post by firebird1988 on Aug 15, 2023 6:16:47 GMT -5
Nowhere poleward of 29° latitude, closer to the equator if higher in elevation
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Post by firebird1988 on Aug 15, 2023 6:17:49 GMT -5
Just for reference, our winter means are in the mid 50s to low 60s Fahrenheit, and you still need heat here in winter
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Post by B87 on Aug 15, 2023 11:00:22 GMT -5
If the houses were built properly, then somewhere like Eureka.
If the houses aren't built properly, then even places like inland Qld are too cold in winter. Definitely colder than a typical interior temperature of a UK house in winter.
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Aug 15, 2023 21:54:45 GMT -5
Vostok
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Post by massiveshibe on Aug 15, 2023 22:44:39 GMT -5
Just for reference, our winter means are in the mid 50s to low 60s Fahrenheit, and you still need heat here in winter Our winter means are in the upper 40s and you don’t need heat here. Most people don’t have heating here and I never heard of everyone dying during a cold wave. |
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Post by firebird1988 on Aug 16, 2023 5:52:10 GMT -5
Just for reference, our winter means are in the mid 50s to low 60s Fahrenheit, and you still need heat here in winter Our winter means are in the upper 40s and you don’t need heat here. Most people don’t have heating here and I never heard of everyone dying during a cold wave. It doesn't get hot where you live. Our buildings are designed to NOT trap warm air due to our boiling hot summers |
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Post by massiveshibe on Aug 19, 2023 18:52:26 GMT -5
Our winter means are in the upper 40s and you don’t need heat here. Most people don’t have heating here and I never heard of everyone dying during a cold wave. It doesn't get hot where you live. Our buildings are designed to NOT trap warm air due to our boiling hot summers The buildings here are not designed to trap heat either. Blame Latin American architecture. |
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Post by Ethereal on Aug 19, 2023 19:16:32 GMT -5
It depends on the insulation of the home. Brisbane looks like it can get coolish at nights (and I thank Greys for confirming that). So I'd probably need a little fan heater there at nights and mornings. So maybe a place like Rockhampton at 23°S?
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Post by AJ1013 on Aug 19, 2023 19:51:43 GMT -5
Below 55F inside is unpleasant. Below 45F is extremely bad.
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Post by Benfxmth on Aug 19, 2023 20:05:06 GMT -5
Probably a climate with a monthly mean of about 40°F in the coldest month. Keep in mind that limit might be a bit higher in cold overcast manky shitholes. I've experienced upper 30s indoor temps last winter in cold snaps sans heating, that got a bit tough, but not completely intolerable. Subfreezing indoors sounds too much for instance, such as frozen pipes, foodstuff, etc.; wouldn't wanna deal with that, hence the 40°F lower limit for means. Could probably push that limit a bit lower, if the question allows for fireplaces while not using central heating.
I don't even think of turning on the heat in a typical winter's day with 55/35°F high/low here, we simply just close up the windows at night; and/or huddle under a blanket or take a hot shower if the cold gets annoying.
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Post by firebird1988 on Aug 19, 2023 20:13:13 GMT -5
Probably a climate with a monthly mean of about 40°F in the coldest month. Keep in mind that limit might be a bit higher in cold overcast manky shitholes. I've experienced upper 30s indoor temps last winter in cold snaps sans heating, that got a bit tough, but not completely intolerable. Subfreezing indoors sounds too much for instance, such as frozen pipes, foodstuff, etc.; wouldn't wanna deal with that, hence the 40°F lower limit for means. Could probably push that limit a bit lower, if the question allows for fireplaces while not using central heating. I don't even think of turning on the heat in a typical winter's day with 55/35°F high/low here, we simply just close up the windows at night; and/or huddle under a blanket or take a hot shower if the cold gets annoying. I experienced 14 days of 42°F indoor temps after the March 1991 Ice Storm, most miserable two weeks of my life |
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Post by greysrigging on Aug 20, 2023 16:21:08 GMT -5
It depends on the insulation of the home. Brisbane looks like it can get coolish at nights (and I thank Greys for confirming that). So I'd probably need a little fan heater there at nights and mornings. So maybe a place like Rockhampton at 23°S? Even Rocky gets chilly at night ( it has an inland, as in 40klm from the coast, location )....I reckon there might be a heater or 3 in the dwellings there....   |
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