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Post by southathens on Mar 12, 2024 8:31:44 GMT -5
Following up from a previous topic where we hypothesized that areas further inland and North of Sparta would have higher summer average maxes. cdweather.boards.net/thread/4467/european-summer-monsters-sparta-cordobaWell it appears that the National Observatory of Athens has been running a secondary Hydrometeorological station in the depths of the Evrotas Valley around 10 km North of Sparta the past 4 years. The station is placed on the ground on the bank of the Evrotas River for hydrological research purposes. Below some pics of the Evrotas station and its position relative to Sparta WMO met station.   And below is how Evrotas NOA station looks the past 4 years. Notice the particularly pronounced summer average highs. Especially that July 40.5C average max. Again we are talking about only 4 years of data and it is a secondary station so some caution is warranted. In any case it does seem to favour our hypothesis that the depths of the Evrotas Valley might just beat Cordoba at a European level when it comes to summer highs. Both Taygetos and Parnon mountains provide a constant foehn effect during the summer and this is particularly obvious from the Sparta WMO station data alone. Judging by average highs and lows the location seems pretty continental for South Europe standards. What's your take?  |
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Post by Benfxmth on Mar 12, 2024 8:41:52 GMT -5
That station placement is pure comedy, it can be tossed in the garbage as far as I'm concerned. Appears to be placed way too close to the ground, and also lots of bushes restricting airflow, not to mention the comically short POR of 4 years and diurnals seem far too large for the climate...
NO, just NO. Just when I thought you couldn't post an even more botevvy station, here you go again...guess I was proven wrong again.
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Post by southathens on Mar 12, 2024 8:44:44 GMT -5
That station placement is pure comedy, it can be tossed in the garbage as far as I'm concerned. Appears to be placed way too close to the ground, and also lots of bushes restricting airflow, not to mention the comically short POR of 4 years... NO, just NO. Just when I thought you couldn't post an even more botevvy station, here you go again...guess I was proven wrong again. Bruh, take it up with the National Observatory of Athens. Don't shoot the messenger. Oh and stay on topic. Is it or not a clear indication that there are areas warmer than the Sparta WMO station in the Evrotas Valley? Me thinks this area can fuck up Cordoba any day with the same type of stations in both areas. |
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Post by southathens on Mar 12, 2024 8:55:12 GMT -5
also lots of bushes restricting airflow, not to mention the comically short POR of 4 years and diurnals seem far too large for the climate... On that point also. The National Observatory of Athens has around 30 of these Hydro Meteorological stations throughout Greece. All placed on river or lake banks. Their average highs appear extremely cold . For all I know these values could be taken from that Finnish racist bitch house somewhere in the arctic. That's obviously due to the rivers cold air breezes, so I doubt these bushes do anything when the station is placed just above the river bank. Only notable exception out of these 30 stations is this one and its neighboring station (Kelefina NOA) immediately south at a bit higher elevation. So there is defo something happening here. Good indication this area is extremely hot. Like true extremes for European standards. |
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Post by Ariete on Mar 12, 2024 10:26:52 GMT -5
Just stop. Find another forum for your poppycock.
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Post by MET on Mar 12, 2024 10:32:31 GMT -5
F for fake.
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Post by southathens on Mar 12, 2024 10:35:14 GMT -5
Just stop. Find another forum for your poppycock. Why don't u join a racist forum yourself? I bet you ll find loads of pricks who judge people by nationality. |
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Post by southathens on Mar 12, 2024 10:36:26 GMT -5
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Post by Ariete on Mar 12, 2024 10:42:12 GMT -5
Why don't u join a racist forum yourself? I bet you ll find loads of pricks who judge people by nationality.
Because I'm not racist. I don't hate Greeks or any other nationality (maybe Russia a little), I just have a strong dislike for you.
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Post by southathens on Mar 12, 2024 10:46:10 GMT -5
Why don't u join a racist forum yourself? I bet you ll find loads of pricks who judge people by nationality.
I don't hate Greeks or any other nationality (maybe Russia a little), I just have a strong dislike for you.
Oh you don't? Every second post of yours you are trashing Greece. Making generalizations for the whole country and its people, insulting public organizations, bs talk about bailouts from a decade ago etc. Come on admit it. You are a pure racist Finnish trash. Go vote someone racist in Finland and rid us of your hatred towards south Europe. |
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Post by AJ1013 on Mar 12, 2024 10:54:10 GMT -5
That station placement is pure comedy, it can be tossed in the garbage as far as I'm concerned. Appears to be placed way too close to the ground, and also lots of bushes restricting airflow, not to mention the comically short POR of 4 years... NO, just NO. Just when I thought you couldn't post an even more botevvy station, here you go again...guess I was proven wrong again. Brah, take it up with the National Observatory of Athens. Don't shoot the messenger. Oh and stay on topic. Is it or not a clear indication that there are areas warmer than the Sparta WMO station in the Evrotas Valley? Me thinks this area can fuck up Cordoba any day with the same type of stations in both areas. He’s only saying these ridiculous things because he’s so into you. |
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Post by Steelernation on Mar 12, 2024 10:54:40 GMT -5
I think it has hotter summers than Death Valley and I bet you can fabricate a station to seem warmer than Dallol. Greece #1! Greece #1
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Post by southathens on Mar 12, 2024 11:12:25 GMT -5
I think it has hotter summers than Death Valley and I bet you can fabricate a station to seem warmer than Dallol. Greece #1! Greece #1 The only difference is this a National Observatory of Athens station. If it was a private station in your house then I bet we could fabricate something to beat even Venus. |
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Post by southathens on Mar 12, 2024 11:13:34 GMT -5
Brah, take it up with the National Observatory of Athens. Don't shoot the messenger. Oh and stay on topic. Is it or not a clear indication that there are areas warmer than the Sparta WMO station in the Evrotas Valley? Me thinks this area can fuck up Cordoba any day with the same type of stations in both areas. He’s only saying these ridiculous things because he’s so into you. I want his ass pic to ascertain if I am fucking him or not. I am a bit picky. I need a fat/bubbly man ass to be turned on.  |
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Post by desiccatedi85 on Mar 12, 2024 13:55:15 GMT -5
No doubt that it has hot days, and they're probably even hotter than Sparta due to local topography, but these average highs here are way too high (and lows too low). The station placement looks to be nonstandard and probably too close to the ground, making diurnal variation too large. I could see it averaging 99ºF/68ºF, not 104ºF/64ºF, in July.
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Post by Marcelo on Mar 12, 2024 14:16:49 GMT -5
At this point, my main hypothesis is that this guy was fired from the Athens Observatory and he's low key sabotaging the institution by showing its laughable stations to the meteorology community, putting into focus an otherwise low profile entity - All of this while pretending to defend the organism, so avoiding suspicions about his intentions.
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Post by Beercules on Mar 12, 2024 14:20:00 GMT -5
Are we all just gonna ignore the 2020-2024 POR? 🤣
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Post by southathens on Mar 12, 2024 15:07:53 GMT -5
At this point, my main hypothesis is that this guy was fired from the Athens Observatory and he's low key sabotaging the institution by showing its laughable stations to the meteorology community, putting into focus an otherwise low profile entity - All of this while pretending to defend the organism, so avoiding suspicions about his intentions. Thank you Sherlock. Visit us again when we offer candy. |
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Post by southathens on Mar 12, 2024 15:18:05 GMT -5
No doubt that it has hot days, and they're probably even hotter than Sparta due to local topography, but these average highs here are way too high (and lows too low). The station placement looks to be nonstandard and probably too close to the ground, making diurnal variation too large. I could see it averaging 99ºF/68ºF, not 104ºF/64ºF, in July. It surely is hotter than Sparta. Its further inland and the sea breeze that usually reaches Sparta around high noon daily in the summer (and Ts plummet when winds turn from N to S) must arrive over there much weaker. Since this is not a fan aspirated station while the Sparta WMO station is, then we should expect a significant T max bias. I guess if we had a fan aspirated station in that area it could be around 37C to 38C July avg.max. Sorry I am not good with imperial F units but I think our guess must be around the same. Remember this is a secondary station meant basically for hydrology research so I am not sure if they are really focusing on the Ts so much. In any case I have double checked the station's temperatures time series and it appears to be quality controlled, which is something I missed earlier. See the code under ''Precision'' which reads as ''Acceptable''. The second photo is the general key.   |
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Post by southathens on Mar 12, 2024 15:23:11 GMT -5
Are we all just gonna ignore the 2020-2024 POR? 🤣 Dude let's focus on the fact that we have a good indication that the Evrotas Valley does not exhaust the summer heat dynamic in Sparta proper but way north. That's why I posted the data. Obviously a 4 year POR means nothing when compared to 30 years but its enough evidence, even if it overestimates due to been a passive station, that there are hotter areas than Sparta in the Valley. Exactly where we had predicted they would be. Immediately North and further inland closer to Taygetus and Parnon mountains. |
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