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Post by melonside421 on Apr 11, 2024 22:29:12 GMT -5
As someone who lives in a climate almost like Wilmington, I can safely say that it is undisputably subtropical.
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Post by greysrigging on Apr 11, 2024 23:03:27 GMT -5
As someone who lives in a climate almost like Wilmington, I can safely say that it is undisputably subtropical. Frost, snow and ice are bad, MKay Frost, snow and ice ain't subtropical, MKay     www.weather.gov/ilm/ILMsnowfallDatabase |
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Post by CRISPR on Apr 12, 2024 2:35:36 GMT -5
Both subtropical
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Post by cawfeefan on Apr 12, 2024 2:37:01 GMT -5
Yeah both are subtropical
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Post by melonside421 on Apr 12, 2024 7:52:41 GMT -5
As someone who lives in a climate almost like Wilmington, I can safely say that it is undisputably subtropical. Frost, snow and ice are bad, MKay Frost, snow and ice ain't subtropical, MKay www.weather.gov/ilm/ILMsnowfallDatabaseNice try, still doesnt look like Minnesota lol |
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Post by giannini10 on Apr 12, 2024 11:58:54 GMT -5
As someone who lives in a climate almost like Wilmington, I can safely say that it is undisputably subtropical. Frost, snow and ice are bad, MKay Frost, snow and ice ain't subtropical, MKay www.weather.gov/ilm/ILMsnowfallDatabaseWilmington averages 0.9 inches of snow a year. Why do you guys only cherry-pick extreme episodes for the American climates? |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Apr 12, 2024 12:03:13 GMT -5
Wilmington averages 0.9 inches of snow a year. Why do you guys only cherry-pick extreme episodes for the American climates? Why do you insist on non-subtropical climates being subtropical when they clearly aren't? A real subtropical climate is something like Taunggyi or Mexico City. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Apr 12, 2024 12:03:37 GMT -5
That makes the subtropical and continental (and subarctic and polar) zones utterly meaningless. Pretty much. What's NC, SC, AR etc. then? Continental? Ridiculous.
Temperate... |
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Post by giannini10 on Apr 12, 2024 12:08:44 GMT -5
Everyone knows that “snow and ice” are not chief characteristics of Wilmington’s winter climate.
Frost and ice are occasional throughout the winter, and they don’t stop a climate from being SUBtropical.
I’m not sure why you’d just pretend what a climate is like, greysrigging
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Post by tompas on Apr 12, 2024 12:11:34 GMT -5
Pretty much. What's NC, SC, AR etc. then? Continental? Ridiculous.
Temperate... Cfa is in fact temperate, along with the Med and Oceanic climates, at least by Koppen. |
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Post by 🖕🏿Mörön🖕🏿 on Apr 12, 2024 12:17:46 GMT -5
Everyone knows that “snow and ice” are not chief characteristics of Wilmington’s winter climate. Frost and ice are occasional throughout the winter, and they don’t stop a climate from being SUBtropical. I’m not sure why you’d just pretend what a climate is like, greysrigging The thing is, true subtropical climates aren't all that different from tropical climates. It's a small window. Temperate climates encompass places like Atlanta, Wyalong, Wilmington, Changsha, Shanghai, NYC, Rome, etc. Places like Jacksonville, Xiamen, and Houston are in the transitional zone between temperate and "subtropical". These fake subtropical climates are much different from actual subtropical climates lmao. Y'all got your heads fucked by Köppen... |
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Post by tompas on Apr 12, 2024 12:23:33 GMT -5
Everyone knows that “snow and ice” are not chief characteristics of Wilmington’s winter climate. Frost and ice are occasional throughout the winter, and they don’t stop a climate from being SUBtropical. I’m not sure why you’d just pretend what a climate is like, greysrigging The thing is, true subtropical climates aren't all that different from tropical climates. It's a small window. Temperate climates encompass places like Atlanta, Wyalong, Wilmington, Changsha, Shanghai, NYC, Rome, etc. Places like Jacksonville, Xiamen, and Houston are in the transitional zone between temperate and "subtropical". These fake subtropical climates are much different from actual subtropical climates lmao. Y'all got your heads fucked by Köppen...
Houston gets occasional snow too, apparently our mate greysrigging would discard Houston being a subtropical climate too.
Why would anybody make such a small window for a climate type?
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Post by Benfxmth on Apr 12, 2024 12:24:53 GMT -5
I'm not that interested in that tired old subtropical debate, though I'll say that the occasional snow or cold snap isn't be all-end all for a climate's subtropicality, summer temps matter as well.
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Post by fairweatherfan on Apr 12, 2024 12:26:40 GMT -5
Everyone knows that “snow and ice” are not chief characteristics of Wilmington’s winter climate. Frost and ice are occasional throughout the winter, and they don’t stop a climate from being SUBtropical. I’m not sure why you’d just pretend what a climate is like, greysrigging The thing is, true subtropical climates aren't all that different from tropical climates. It's a small window. Temperate climates encompass places like Atlanta, Wyalong, Wilmington, Changsha, Shanghai, NYC, Rome, etc.Places like Jacksonville, Xiamen, and Houston are in the transitional zone between temperate and "subtropical". These fake subtropical climates are much different from actual subtropical climates lmao. Y'all got your heads fucked by Köppen... May I suggest calling such climates sub-subtropical? |
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Post by tompas on Apr 12, 2024 12:47:48 GMT -5
Lol that's what I thought
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Post by srfoskey on Apr 12, 2024 13:41:19 GMT -5
I would say they both count, but barely. I think median annual snowfall <0.1" (0.25 cm) is a good approximate boundary of the subtropical zone in the US.
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Post by greysrigging on Apr 12, 2024 15:07:16 GMT -5
Everyone knows that “snow and ice” are not chief characteristics of Wilmington’s winter climate. Frost and ice are occasional throughout the winter, and they don’t stop a climate from being SUBtropical. I’m not sure why you’d just pretend what a climate is like, greysrigging Everyone knows that "snow and ice" are are not characteristics of a subtropical climate Frost and ice occasional throughout the winter certainly stop a climate from being SUBtropical I'm not sure why you'd just pretend to have the slightest idea of what a SUBtropical is like Carr old mate....  don't think you've ever lived or experienced one.... |
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Post by Steelernation on Apr 12, 2024 15:24:05 GMT -5
If frost or snow automatically disqualifies a climate, then the subtropical zone is really narrow and not worth having a classification. Annual mean in Wilmington is halfway between Minneapolis and Darwin, seems pretty reasonably for subtropical—mid way between continental and tropical.
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Post by greysrigging on Apr 12, 2024 16:09:56 GMT -5
If frost or snow automatically disqualifies a climate, then the subtropical zone is really narrow and not worth having a classification. Annual mean in Wilmington is halfway between Minneapolis and Darwin, seems pretty reasonably for subtropical—mid way between continental and tropical. So why not call it subcontinental as opposed to subtropical ? Seems like frost and snow has substantially more to do with çontinentality than the Tropics ? As in I don't see too many swaying palms and flowering Jacaranda trees in those snowy pics of Wilmington... just sayin'.... |
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Post by tommyFL on Apr 12, 2024 16:22:36 GMT -5
The adoption of any type of climate classification as some sort of standard has surely destroyed the critical thinking ability of many.
Subtropical should be near-tropical with tropical-like patterns for a large portion of the year, not just a warmer version of the same exact continental climate found all the way up the east coast of North America.
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don't think you've ever lived or experienced one....
