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Post by Speagles84 on Aug 19, 2020 7:49:28 GMT -5
 Winter is coming  |
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Post by srfoskey on Aug 19, 2020 15:23:30 GMT -5
Winter is coming I want to see it with December 1 and March 1 removed as a criteria for the start and end dates. |
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Post by Speagles84 on Aug 19, 2020 15:28:36 GMT -5
Winter is coming I want to see it with December 1 and March 1 removed as a criteria for the start and end dates. You would probably just not have the dark brown area. |
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Post by AJ1013 on Aug 19, 2020 15:33:34 GMT -5
I want to see it with December 1 and March 1 removed as a criteria for the start and end dates. You would probably just not have the dark brown area. I think removing that criteria would affect it more than just the dark brown area disappearing. Tucson, for example, probably has a bunch of 90 day “winters” and a couple where it was “longer” because there was snowfall in March or November. Without the Dec 1- March 1 criteria “winter” in Tucson would either be zero days long or the length between the first and last snowfalls (ie Winter 2019 would have lasted from Jan 1st-Feb 22nd while 2020 had no winter) |
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Post by Speagles84 on Aug 19, 2020 15:47:35 GMT -5
You would probably just not have the dark brown area. Incorrect. Tucson, for example, probably has a bunch of 90 day winters then a few where it was “longer” because there was snowfall in March or November. Without the Dec 1- March 1 criteria “winter” in Tucson would either be zero days long or the length between the first and last snowfalls (ie Winter 2019 would have lasted from Jan 1st-Feb 22nd while 2020 had no winter) It is easily settled there is no winter in Tucson. |
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Post by AJ1013 on Aug 19, 2020 15:50:12 GMT -5
Incorrect. Tucson, for example, probably has a bunch of 90 day winters then a few where it was “longer” because there was snowfall in March or November. Without the Dec 1- March 1 criteria “winter” in Tucson would either be zero days long or the length between the first and last snowfalls (ie Winter 2019 would have lasted from Jan 1st-Feb 22nd while 2020 had no winter) It is easily settled there is no winter in Tucson. That’s not the point. The point is that the map would change more than just the brown area disappearing. But you knew that and are just more interested in writing shitty one liners. Sad |
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Post by Speagles84 on Aug 19, 2020 15:53:17 GMT -5
It is easily settled there is no winter in Tucson. That’s not the point. The point is that the map would change more than just the brown area disappearing. But you knew that and are just more interested in writing shitty one liners. Sad Any person with basic climatological knowledge knows in mountainous regions of the western US the areas would drastically change which is doesn't on this map. Putting a response like yours is one of two options:
1) You have no basic climatological knowledge 2) You posted just to start an argument over a nuance
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Post by AJ1013 on Aug 19, 2020 15:56:23 GMT -5
That’s not the point. The point is that the map would change more than just the brown area disappearing. But you knew that and are just more interested in writing shitty one liners. Sad Any person with basic climatological knowledge knows in mountainous regions of the western US the areas would drastically change which is doesn't on this map. Putting a response like yours is one of two options: 1) You have no basic climatological knowledge 2) You posted just to start an argument over a nuance
Dude do you know how to read? The only reason I responded was because your comment “All that would change would be the dark brown area disappearing” was wrong. You can replace Tucson with literally any city that rarely (or never) sees ice days and rarely sees snow. Atlanta, Houston, New Orleans, Crescent City, etc. All of those cities would go from light brown to dark brown. And a bunch of other places would also change. Dark brown would obviously disappear completely. |
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Post by Speagles84 on Aug 19, 2020 16:00:36 GMT -5
Any person with basic climatological knowledge knows in mountainous regions of the western US the areas would drastically change which is doesn't on this map. Putting a response like yours is one of two options: 1) You have no basic climatological knowledge 2) You posted just to start an argument over a nuance
Dude do you know how to read? The only reason I responded was because your comment “All that would change would be the dark brown area disappearing” was wrong. You can replace Tucson with literally any city that rarely (or never) sees ice days and rarely sees snow. Atlanta, Houston, New Orleans, Crescent City, etc. All of those cities would go from light brown to dark brown. And a bunch of other places would also change. Dark brown would obviously disappear completely. Well, we can add unnecessary personal attacks to your resume. And dUdE cAn U rEaD a mAp?
Houston and New Orleans are already in the brown area. Cresent city is in Northern California and directly inland is mountainous area. Atlanta is at the foothills of the Appalachians. Are you really that bored to continue this argument?
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Post by AJ1013 on Aug 19, 2020 16:08:16 GMT -5
I want to see it with December 1 and March 1 removed as a criteria for the start and end dates. You would probably just not have the dark brown area. I’m going to quote this comment again, the one I was originally responding to. The only point I’m trying to make is that if December 1st and March 1st were removed as criteria more would change than just not having the dark brown area. Everywhere that does not have actual snowy cold winters would have drastucally shorter “winters” by the maps definition. This includes Tucson and any other city in light brown along with most of the dark green I’d imagine. Tucson’s median winter, in this new definition, would be ZERO days since less than half of years have two accumulating snowfalls. I am literally doing the opposite of boteving here, had no intention of personally attacking anyone, and was just trying to add to the discussion but you forced this thread to go completely off the rails because “haha AJ made a post mentioning Tucson, he’s boteving, hahahahaha”. Come on bro. |
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Post by Speagles84 on Aug 19, 2020 16:17:42 GMT -5
You would probably just not have the dark brown area. I’m going to quote this comment again, the one I was originally responding to. The only point I’m trying to make is that if December 1st and March 1st were removed as criteria more would change than just not having the dark brown area. Everywhere that does not have actual snowy cold winters would have drastucally shorter “winters” by the maps definition. This includes Tucson and any other city in light brown along with most of the light green I’d imagine. Tucson’s median winter, in this new definition, would be ZERO days since less than half of years have two accumulating snowfalls. I am literally doing the opposite of boteving here, had no intention of personally attacking anyone, and was just trying to add to the discussion but you forced this thread to go completely off the rails because “haha AJ made a post mentioning Tucson, he’s boteving, hahahahaha”. Come on bro. This thread is derailed because you wanted to start an argument over a nuance, not because of a shoutbox comment. Man up and admit you were instigating an argument like you do all the time. If not, fine. I'm not responding to you again over this matter. |
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Post by Steelernation on Aug 19, 2020 16:42:07 GMT -5
That map is bullshit. Fort Collins does not have winter half the fucking year just because it can get early/late season snowfalls.
Even Rochester does not have almost 5 months of winter. Only exceptional years with cold matches and very cold November’s have that.
And having a minimum of 90 days is dumb too. Some places in the west have cold dec/Jan and then warm up sharply in feb, the opposite is true for some eastern or southern places.
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Post by Crunch41 on Aug 19, 2020 22:07:08 GMT -5
Lol at DarkSkyMaps using emojis to 'tell' the weather: This hurts my eyes. Winter is coming That map is bullshit. Fort Collins does not have winter half the fucking year just because it can get early/late season snowfalls. Even Rochester does not have almost 5 months of winter. Only exceptional years with cold matches and very cold November’s have that. And having a minimum of 90 days is dumb too. Some places in the west have cold dec/Jan and then warm up sharply in feb, the opposite is true for some eastern or southern places. I agree, winter is shorter than the map says. The map content is good but I don't like the name. It's giving the time between the first and last cold or snowy conditions Fort Collins is an bad example for this map since it has a long snowy season but many mild days in between the snow. Even here, winter does not last 5 months. People that say things like "It's winter 9 months of the year" are dumb. Winter is around 3 months long like the other seasons. |
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Post by Ariete on Aug 20, 2020 6:31:26 GMT -5
Winter is coming
Lol what? Not even SMHI could come up with such an arbitrary and stupid definition of "winter".  |
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Post by Giorbanguly on Aug 20, 2020 6:57:09 GMT -5
Pretty arbitrary, but do like the difference they have between NYC and Bunghole. 5-6 months (late November-late April) for Bunghole sounds about right
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 4:16:42 GMT -5
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Post by Ariete on Sept 8, 2020 5:52:23 GMT -5
Turku is in the 180-210 zone, so shorter than in "my weather comes from Greenland" NI. What do you say now, @owenc?
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Post by Crunch41 on Sept 8, 2020 22:36:53 GMT -5
Is that from the last 32F in spring to the first 32F in fall? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 8:21:06 GMT -5
Is that from the last 32F in spring to the first 32F in fall? No, these are consecutive days with a mean temp above 5c. The frost free period in London is about 250 days, though an average year will record 22 frosts (91-20). |
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Post by Crunch41 on Sept 9, 2020 11:15:02 GMT -5
@b87 So, as an example. If there was a 4.9 mean temp on June 15, then some warm days, then a 4.9 mean on June 20, it would be 4 days? (16-17-18-19)
I'm curious how long my season is by this measure but I think I have to calculate manually.
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Winter is coming
