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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2021 20:19:44 GMT -5
rozenn nei I count 55 fake Beercules accounts, so without his aid, Melbourne would have won 20-17.
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Post by srfoskey on Jan 8, 2021 22:40:17 GMT -5
Mine. Norman is far more interesting than Melbourne. Our summer record highs aren't even that much lower.
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Post by alex992 on Jan 9, 2021 12:35:50 GMT -5
I think I'd take mine even though I like Melbourne's temperatures more. Melbourne is only variable during the wrong season (summer) and I'm not a fan of its precip pattern, and winter cold snaps are pretty lame.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind summer variability. But winter can't be THAT stable compared to summer. That's a no-no for me.
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Post by Beercules on Jan 9, 2021 18:31:56 GMT -5
I think I'd take mine even though I like Melbourne's temperatures more. Melbourne is only variable during the wrong season (summer) and I'm not a fan of its precip pattern, and winter cold snaps are pretty lame. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind summer variability. But winter can't be THAT stable compared to summer. That's a no-no for me. Oh it can, all thanks to the omnipresent southerly airmass and stratocrapulus, which gets backed up like a malfunctioning toilet against the ranges to the north. Here is a Melbourne forecast for the entire fuckan winter: Cloudy, with the chance of a shower. Low 6 / high 14. The same reason why the crummer is spastic. The omnipresent southerlies are sometimes interrupted by 1-2 days of hot air from the north. The only reason why Melbourne is not a fully fledged Heathrow even though it is 15* closer to the equator is because it is attached to the mainland, rather than have a 30 mile wide channel to the north. Pathetic, no?
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Post by rozenn on Jan 9, 2021 18:48:12 GMT -5
I think I'd take mine even though I like Melbourne's temperatures more. Melbourne is only variable during the wrong season (summer) and I'm not a fan of its precip pattern, and winter cold snaps are pretty lame. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind summer variability. But winter can't be THAT stable compared to summer. That's a no-no for me. Oh it can, all thanks to the omnipresent southerly airmass and stratocrapulus, which gets backed up like a malfunctioning toilet against the ranges to the north. Here is a Melbourne forecast for the entire fuckan winter: Cloudy, with the chance of a shower. Low 6 / high 14. The same reason why the crummer is spastic. The omnipresent southerlies are sometimes interrupted by 1-2 days of hot air from the north. The only reason why Melbourne is not a fully fledged Heathrow even though it is 15* closer to the equator is because it is attached to the mainland, rather than have a 30 mile wide channel to the north. Pathetic, no? Locales across the Channel from Heathrow are far from getting heat at the same frequency as Melbourne though!
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Post by alex992 on Jan 9, 2021 23:04:37 GMT -5
Beercules Basically the opposite geography of the US South, that's why the opposite seasons are the ones that are volatile. Trust me. I've always thought Melbourne's climate is pretty pathetic outside of those random heat bursts. When I choose Miami over you, you know you've done wrong.
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Post by Beercules on Jan 9, 2021 23:14:54 GMT -5
Beercules Basically the opposite geography of the US South, that's why the opposite seasons are the ones that are volatile. Trust me. I've always thought Melbourne's climate is pretty pathetic outside of those random heat bursts. When I choose Miami over you, you know you've done wrong. When it comes to summer, the US has the key advantage of a hot body of water to the south and east, and a continent almost all the way to the pole. What does that yield? No source of cold. I would de-penis myself for the southern and SE US summers. Australia, meanwhile, has a vast expanse of world's coldest ocean to the south with no stops in between, and a lukewarm current to the east. What happens, you get a conga line of marching cold fronts and anticyclones, of which you'll regularly catch the wrong side and be spunked with a cornucopia of southerlies straight from a subantarctic ocean. And those anticyclones are more than happy to stall and deform, sending protracted periods of crummer southerlies northwards. And because the waters anywhere south of the tropic of capricorn are much, much cooler than the Gulf of Mexico and the Gulfstream, avg lows are comparatively pathetic, particularly in SE and southern Aus, even a good distance inland.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 6:59:31 GMT -5
Melbourne for the milder winters and the chance of random 40c days in summer.
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 10, 2021 8:32:23 GMT -5
97F in Melbourne today...
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Post by AJ1013 on Jan 10, 2021 8:35:33 GMT -5
As far as this thread goes Melbourne absolutely sucks but Iβd still take it over Key Biscayne. Key Biscayne is too uncomfortable for too long.
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Post by chesternz on Jan 10, 2021 11:03:01 GMT -5
I'd pick Bangkok over Melbourne any day, but Melbourne really isn't that bad. It's just that almost everywhere else in Aus is better.
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Post by Ariete on Jan 10, 2021 11:10:09 GMT -5
My current climate. I can't handle the inverted seasons.
Farken oath, definitely Melbourne lol.
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Post by Beercules on Jan 10, 2021 16:34:25 GMT -5
97F in Melbourne today... Certainly an achievement amongst the plethora of 65f days.
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Post by FrozenI69 on Jan 10, 2021 16:39:50 GMT -5
My climate because I have real winters. Also, Melbourne gets βgay westerliesβ in the summer. Tsk Tsk Beerclues
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Post by knot on Jan 10, 2021 16:52:48 GMT -5
Oh it can, all thanks to the omnipresent southerly airmass and stratocrapulus, which gets backed up like a malfunctioning toilet against the ranges to the north. Here is a Melbourne forecast for the entire fuckan winter: Cloudy, with the chance of a shower. Low 6 / high 14. Wrongβyou've got it entirely backwards for winter. The cloud from prevailing westerly fronts and especially Northwest Cloudbands, actually gets backed-up against the northern (windward) side of the ranges; and thus, Melbourne instead receives warm and dry foehn winds, hence being so warm for its latitude compared to windward Victorian climates (annual mean difference of more than 2Β° C). Note also the dramatically different precip pattern in Melbourne; one of a summer peak, as opposed to a characteristically Victorian winter peak. The reason why Melbourne is so stable in winterβ¦is because it lacks those very cold days that characterise the regions windward of the ranges. Melbourne can only get truly cold days with S to SSW fronts, which are rare compared to the standard WSW to SW counterparts.
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Post by Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Jan 10, 2021 16:53:30 GMT -5
Melbourne by far for reasons you probably already know
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Post by Beercules on Jan 10, 2021 17:48:06 GMT -5
Oh it can, all thanks to the omnipresent southerly airmass and stratocrapulus, which gets backed up like a malfunctioning toilet against the ranges to the north. Here is a Melbourne forecast for the entire fuckan winter: Cloudy, with the chance of a shower. Low 6 / high 14. Wrongβyou've got it entirely backwards for winter. The cloud from prevailing westerly fronts and especially Northwest Cloudbands, actually gets backed-up against the northern (windward) side of the ranges; and thus, Melbourne instead receives warm and dry foehn winds, hence being so warm for its latitude compared to windward Victorian climates (annual mean difference of more than 2Β° C). Note also the dramatically different precip pattern in Melbourne; one of a summer peak, as opposed to a characteristically Victorian winter peak. The reason why Melbourne is so stable in winterβ¦is because it lacks those very cold days that characterise the regions windward of the ranges. Melbourne can only get truly cold days with S to SSW fronts, which are rare compared to the standard WSW to SW counterparts. If I got a dollar for every time a cold front or south/SW airflow imported stratocrapulus during my time in Melbourne, I would be richer than AJ. At the end of the day, Melbourne is plagued by southerly stratocrapulus. That is infact one of the reasons why Melbourne is stable in winter, the lack of clear skies and coastal location means there are less extremes in temp. North of the ranges gets a greater frequency of clear skies exactly because the ranges help block the southerly cloud and being away from the moderating ocean ofcourse there is less temp stability. I know about NW cloud bands and what not, but still it is not incorrect that southerly cloud gets backed up by the ranges. Similar thing happens in Shitney when they get their summer SE'lies.
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Post by knot on Jan 10, 2021 18:02:06 GMT -5
If I got a dollar for every time a cold front or south/SW airflow imported stratocrapulus during my time in Melbourne, I would be richer than AJ. At the end of the day, Melbourne is plagued by southerly stratocrapulus. That is infact one of the reasons why Melbourne is stable in winter, the lack of clear skies and coastal location means there are less extremes in temp. North of the ranges gets a greater frequency of clear skies exactly because the ranges help block the southerly cloud and being away from the moderating ocean ofcourse there is less temp stability. I know about NW cloud bands and what not, but still it is not incorrect that southerly cloud gets backed up by the ranges. Similar thing happens in Shitney when they get their summer SE'lies. By cold days, I refer plainly to max temps, not min temps; the windward inland slopes of Central Victoria (e.g. Corryong) are, in fact, cloudier than Melbourne in winter and much of spring, and thus are able to record much colder max temps with more regularityβthis trend only reverses in summer and autumn. Also, Melbourne's winter "cloud" tends to be of the high-level, dry sort; as opposed to the low-level, heavy, and moisture-laden uplift cloud of the windward slopes.
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Post by Beercules on Jan 10, 2021 18:37:59 GMT -5
^^^ Fair enough, yeah true that the Corryong/Albury/Wangaratta is cooler and cloudier than places at the same lat toward the west of the state.
Yeah Melbourne gets plenty of high level and mid level cloud in winter with NW cloudbands, but still the stratojunk from the S/SW is beyond common. That stratojunk however is usually dry or just brings some lame drizzle.
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Post by ππΏMΓΆrΓΆnππΏ on Jan 10, 2021 19:49:00 GMT -5
Current climate is better than Melbourne, no question.
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