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Post by Hiromant on Jan 5, 2018 16:00:52 GMT -5
B. Spring could be warmer and cooldown slower, some more sunshine wouldn't hurt. Those -40Β°C lows would be a pain to deal with on a practical level but who cares about that.
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Post by boombo on Jan 5, 2018 16:11:38 GMT -5
I thought I'd be giving this an F before I saw the climate box but on reflection I'm changing to Z, I'd rather gargle my own diarrhea while flossing with ass hairs.
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Post by alex992 on Jan 5, 2018 16:33:19 GMT -5
^ That's a bit harsh
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Post by ilmc90 on Jan 5, 2018 21:01:16 GMT -5
D
Winters are way too cold. The summers save it from a F. Too dry...not a fan of extremely cold, dry climates.
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Post by shalop on Jan 11, 2018 21:02:28 GMT -5
The melt will be non-existent too, so it'll feel way snowier than Yakutsk. Having said that, a lot of those Russia snowfall days look extremely fishy to me, don't you agree? Yes, I do agree. I don't think such a cold place would see like 75% of days between October and March with snow falling, unless the cold averages are created by very frequent mild air intrusions which elevate moisture balanced with the occasional very extreme, bitter, cold snap. I think maybe Russian stations either A.) Have a really low threshold for what constitutes as a "snowy day". B.) Perhaps instruments read wrong and count freezing/ice fog accumulations as "snow". C.) Maybe it actually IS accurate.... You can find historical daily temp/precipitation data for Russian locations on Pogoda Klimat. For instance, if you look at at last month (Dec 2017 in Tura), you'll see that it recorded 0.1 mm or more of precip (which I would believe would be a "snowy day") on 20 out of 31 days. Which would make the Wikipedia data plausible. www.pogodaiklimat.ru/monitor.php?id=24507&month=12&year=2017Whether this data is accurate is another story, but it seems at least somewhat legitimate. (Btw, temps seem to fluctuate quite wildly between extreme cold and milder cold, exactly the kind of climate you'd like, no Alex? If only it had more snow.) Anyways, I would rank this climate somewhere between an A and A+; generally places with means lower than -35C in the coldest month (as well as warm but not hot summers) are A+ for me.
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Post by alex992 on Jan 11, 2018 21:59:22 GMT -5
The melt will be non-existent too, so it'll feel way snowier than Yakutsk. Having said that, a lot of those Russia snowfall days look extremely fishy to me, don't you agree? Yes, I do agree. I don't think such a cold place would see like 75% of days between October and March with snow falling, unless the cold averages are created by very frequent mild air intrusions which elevate moisture balanced with the occasional very extreme, bitter, cold snap. I think maybe Russian stations either A.) Have a really low threshold for what constitutes as a "snowy day". B.) Perhaps instruments read wrong and count freezing/ice fog accumulations as "snow". C.) Maybe it actually IS accurate.... You can find historical daily temp/precipitation data for Russian locations on Pogoda Klimat. For instance, if you look at at last month (Dec 2017 in Tura), you'll see that it recorded 0.1 mm or more of precip (which I would believe would be a "snowy day") on 20 out of 31 days. Which would make the Wikipedia data plausible. www.pogodaiklimat.ru/monitor.php?id=24507&month=12&year=2017Whether this data is accurate is another story, but it seems at least somewhat legitimate. (Btw, temps seem to fluctuate quite wildly between extreme cold and milder cold, exactly the kind of climate you'd like, no Alex? If only it had more snow.) Anyways, I would rank this climate somewhere between an A and A+; generally places with means lower than -35C in the coldest month (as well as warm but not hot summers) are A+ for me. Interesting! Thanks for the link! Yes, this climate's winters are about ideal, but the summers are too cool and dry for my liking. This planet really needs a higher tilt lol. I wonder what the average annual snowfall is? About 150 cm or so? The snow that falls in winter must be really high ratio snow. Snow must get deep towards March/early April as well.
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Post by Steelernation on Jan 11, 2018 23:06:20 GMT -5
Using data from Ogimet to get an estimate for snowfall in 2017:
12 cm 8 cm 12 cm 13 cm 5 cm 0 0 0 6 cm 26 cm 32 cm 14 cm
Total: 128 cm
I added up the difference between daily snow depth. Ex: 14 cm snow depth on the 15th and 21 cm on the 16th β 21-14 = 7 cm. Comes out on the low end but usually relatively accurate.
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Post by alex992 on Jan 11, 2018 23:12:27 GMT -5
Using data from Ogimet to get an estimate for snowfall in 2017: 12 cm 8 cm 12 cm 13 cm 5 cm 0 0 0 6 cm 26 cm 32 cm 14 cm Total: 128 cm I added up the difference between daily snow depth. Ex: 14 cm snow depth on the 15th and 21 cm on the 16th β 21-14 = 7 cm. Comes out on the low end but usually relatively accurate. Nice! Thanks! 128 cm is a solid amount for such a cold climate....though I'm sure it's due more to a long snow season rather than them getting heavy snow.
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Post by MΓΆrΓΆn on Jan 11, 2018 23:32:41 GMT -5
It's a D. That -27C record low in May is pretty damn cold, as well as that -42C in April. Interesting climate but wouldn't want to live there. The winters are pretty long.
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Post by shalop on Jan 11, 2018 23:46:35 GMT -5
I don't think that snow ratios would be very high because (contrary to intuition) they actually start to decrease as you get into extremely cold temp regimes, see this article: lukemweather.blogspot.com/2010/12/finallyhow-do-we-calculate-snow-ratios.htmlLooks like this place averages about 7-8 months near or below freezing, with about 15mm of liquid-equivalent precipitation for each of those months (except in Oct-Nov, which get about 30mm). Assuming snow ratios average close to 10:1, I'd estimate snowfall to be in the range of 100-150cm. So 128cm sounds about right.
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